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To: noinfringers2
I brought it up in regard to McCain. McCain would be a “native or indigenous” citizen according to Vattel 217. The “actual quote” you cited is a mistranslation of 212. And 217 provides an exception to the definition of “natives or indigenous” provided in 212. Was Vattel speaking of natural-born subjects as well as citizens? Nothing in the French translates to either “born” or “citizen”.

Yes the Constitution was extremely well reasoned, and only those who were citizens at the time of the adoption and natural born citizens were qualified for the Presidency. This leaves out the only other type of citizen the Constitution provides for, those being naturalized citizens.

Do you contend that Senator Cruz is a naturalized citizen? What type of citizen do you suppose Senator Cruz is? Based upon what law?

46 posted on 03/06/2013 3:11:28 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: allmendream

I believe the text I noted from Vattel is correct and accurate though some people might have a copy that has para. 212 titled differently than what I have. I still stand by what the Founding Fathers meant and debated about with ‘natural born citizen’ is in the paragraph 212 I referred to. As to your questioning me as to what type of citizen Senator Cruz is I would base it considering it in the framework that my information is that he was born in Canada to a Cuban father and a USA citizen mother. His father was a fighter for Castro’s revolution but later rescinded the support ostensibly because he did not like communism. The family came to the USA when now Senator Cruz was 4 years old. As such my take is he can/does meet the requirements of a USA Senator like Obama but he is not eligible for POTUSA as much as some people would like to twist the Constitution for any personnal purposes. I like what I see of the man’s politics and believe that somewhere in this vast Nation there is or will be a person our Founding Fathers envisioned as POTUSA.


81 posted on 03/06/2013 11:12:23 PM PST by noinfringers2
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