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Freep a Poll! (CNN.Do you agree with the TSA policy allowing knives back on airliners?)
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Posted on 03/07/2013 5:31:45 PM PST by dynachrome

Quick Vote

Do you agree with the TSA policy allowing small knives back on airliners?

Yes

No

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: cnn; poll; security; tsa
Dunno. I do like being able to defend myself a little bit, however.
1 posted on 03/07/2013 5:31:47 PM PST by dynachrome
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Have at it!

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2 posted on 03/07/2013 5:33:11 PM PST by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: dynachrome

I don’t have an opinion as I plan to never board another plane except in case of extreme emergency involving my kids and grandkids who are in Canada for the next year and a half.


3 posted on 03/07/2013 5:34:07 PM PST by basil (basil, 2ASisters.org)
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To: dynachrome

79% against.

Defending yourself is one thing but remember that 9/11 hijackers only had box knives. What could they accomplish with real knives?


4 posted on 03/07/2013 5:34:20 PM PST by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: dynachrome

Only one ping this time. Hope that particular glitch is fixed.


5 posted on 03/07/2013 5:35:04 PM PST by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: All

Poll is down on the right hand side


6 posted on 03/07/2013 5:35:35 PM PST by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: dynachrome
Do you realize that a box cutter with the blade in the handle falls within the allowable limits of the size of a blade?

Of course that only killed 3,000 people. Me thinks the DHS is STUCK ON STUPID.

7 posted on 03/07/2013 5:37:48 PM PST by ProudFossil (" I never did give anyone hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was hell." Harry Truman)
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To: leapfrog0202

“small” pocket knives. I was too lazy to look up the specs


8 posted on 03/07/2013 5:38:51 PM PST by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: dynachrome

I quit flying commercial years ago. If I can’t drive, fly myself, or get a friend to fly me ... I don’t go. When they created another federal agency and made it grotesquely pc (rather than privatize it and allow common sense to be employed) — well — I said goodbye to the pc skies. So whatever.... The only airline pilots I know carry in the cockpit. I don’t know very many.


9 posted on 03/07/2013 5:39:39 PM PST by Check6 (United States of Moronia: A nation of morons ruled by a gang of communist thugs.)
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To: dynachrome

Still 79% @ 7:38 PM CST (5717 votes to 1555)

Still no sewing needles allowed for prospective jurors (jury duty), though. When’s the last time someone was murdered with a sewing needle?


10 posted on 03/07/2013 5:42:50 PM PST by KGeorge (hoplophobia: n. irrational, morbid fear of guns.)
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To: ProudFossil

Of course that only killed 3,000 people. Me thinks the DHS is STUCK ON STUPID.


The box cutters worked because the people thought the planes were being hijacked and going to land. Do you really think someone with a pocket knife wouldn’t be pummeled if the they produced it now?


11 posted on 03/07/2013 5:43:40 PM PST by Joshua
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To: ProudFossil
Do you realize that a box cutter with the blade in the handle falls within the allowable limits of the size of a blade?

Of course that only killed 3,000 people. Me thinks the DHS is STUCK ON STUPID.

I carry a 3.5 inch blade everyday, I have box cutters all over my building and warehouse.

The problem is not the knife but those who are complacent when confronted.

If someone wants a knife or box cutter on airplane it will be there, TSA is a joke.

I really believe men now know they have to fight on a an Aircraft, I know I will

12 posted on 03/07/2013 5:44:22 PM PST by Kakaze (I want The Republic back !)
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To: leapfrog0202

What can you accomplish with a ball point pen?


13 posted on 03/07/2013 5:47:36 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: dynachrome

The knives they are talking about are the tiny knives with 2” blades less than 1/4” wide. You would be hard pressed to make a weapon out of it.


14 posted on 03/07/2013 5:51:11 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There is no requirement to show need in order to exercise your rights.)
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To: Check6

I will fly commercial once in a while...I suck down $5.00 Bloody Mary, and shout out a 1 -10 grade on the flying pilots’ landing while passing the cockpit. Other than that, I fly myself with S&W...that way I can hijack myself to LAS;-)


15 posted on 03/07/2013 5:55:13 PM PST by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: Nuc 1.1
What can you accomplish with a ball point pen?

Three points of entry in the human skull. The ears, nasal cavity or the eye sockets. All can be fatal, but the ears are the quickest.

If you have some medical or martial arts training there is always the carotid artery.

If it is sizable and has some heft to it you can use it as a kubaton for nerve strikes and compliance holds.

16 posted on 03/07/2013 5:55:48 PM PST by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: dynachrome

The only reason TSA exists is because terrorists got box cutters onto an airline.

Now we let them bring them onboard.

Abolish the TSA!


17 posted on 03/07/2013 5:56:34 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

About what I carry with screwdriver,corkscrew and punch attachments. It was free, so it’s good for minor adjustments on equipment at work.


18 posted on 03/07/2013 5:58:31 PM PST by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: leapfrog0202

“Defending yourself is one thing but remember that 9/11 hijackers only had box knives. What could they accomplish with real knives?”

Thats Gay. What they would accomplish with real knives is to experience a good solid ass kicking. I defy anyone to try to take over an airliner with a knife. That was a one trick pony. Now you’d get dogpiled and strangled. Bombs in luggage, ok. Blades in the cabin? It’d be downright funny to see anyone try that. LOL


19 posted on 03/07/2013 6:00:23 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: dynachrome

Blades about 2.5” long and 1/2” wide, no lock.


20 posted on 03/07/2013 6:01:13 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: leapfrog0202

Nothing worse than they accomplished with box cutters. The difference is that other passengers could carve them up the next time.


21 posted on 03/07/2013 6:03:56 PM PST by Trod Upon (The Second Amendment acknowledges our inherent right to revolt if tyrannized. It ain't about hunting)
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To: dynachrome

I never felt unsafe flying. No one is ever going to take over a plane with a box cutter again. We're wise to that trick. (That's why they had to hit as many planes in the air at the same time as they could on 9/11. It was a gambit designed only to work once.) When they pull the next terrorist trick out of their hats, I'd feel safer if the average passenger was armed with better than a sharpened credit cards and a ballpoint pen.


22 posted on 03/07/2013 6:06:54 PM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: leapfrog0202
Defending yourself is one thing but remember that 9/11 hijackers only had box knives.

The problem wasn't that the bad guys had knives - the problem was that the good guys didn't. Or at least not in sufficient numbers.

23 posted on 03/07/2013 6:17:16 PM PST by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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To: dynachrome
FReeped!
24 posted on 03/07/2013 6:21:20 PM PST by AZ .44 MAG (Repeal Obama)
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To: dynachrome

I absolutely agree. They should allow big knifes on too. Listen to some of the wusses even on our side.


25 posted on 03/07/2013 6:30:14 PM PST by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: Joshua

What I am saying is the DHS has no coherent thinking in their decisions. Of course the passengers on 9-11 thought it was just a hi-jacking. Today if someone pulled a boxcutter, they would be carved up with that boxcutter. However the DHS thinks it is a big deal that they now allow these minor weapons. THEY DO NOT THINK THE PASSENGERS ARE GUTSY ENOUGH TO FIGHT BACK. Remember the population of this country has become complacent sheep. They elect idiots, they believe whatever the media tells them, they have no original thoughts. So the DHS thinks that is the norm. I wil predict that soon the DHS will allow larger knives, larger bottles of liquid, stop the shoe inspections, etc. And the reason is they will not think anybody is going to try 9-ll again. It is the LIBERAL mindset. Nothing tried is not nothing gained, it is nothing will ever be tried again.


26 posted on 03/07/2013 6:45:25 PM PST by ProudFossil (" I never did give anyone hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was hell." Harry Truman)
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To: basil

I don’t have an opinion as I plan to never board another plane except in case of extreme emergency involving my kids and grandkids.”

I’m right there with you except that my son and one grandson live close enough that I could get there by walking if I absolutely have to. It only takes 4 more hours to drive to where my other grandson lives compared to the amount of total time to get to the airport, park, check in, fly, rent a car, etc. So I may very well not fly again, unless I win the lottery and can charter my own aircraft. Before January 2012 I flew 12-15 times a year but no more.

I think airlines should handle their own security and decide what they want to allow. Get the government out of it.


27 posted on 03/07/2013 6:59:00 PM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: ProudFossil

What I am saying is the DHS has no coherent thinking in their decisions.


When you start the post with that line how is anybody supposed to refute it? Seriously, point taken.


28 posted on 03/07/2013 7:03:10 PM PST by Joshua
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To: dynachrome

I said after learning about the heroes of Flight 93 and the (then) pending new regs that the TSA should be arming, not disarming, the passengers. I still believe that is true.


29 posted on 03/07/2013 7:11:56 PM PST by NonValueAdded (If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, you've likely misread the situation.)
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To: dynachrome

Do you agree with the TSA policy allowing small knives back on airliners?

No.....79% .....6394

Yes.....21%.....1736

Total votes: 8130

This is not a scientific poll


30 posted on 03/07/2013 7:16:04 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: so_real

Absolutely. The boxcutter was not a weapon you can use to physically subdue a crowd. In fact, no knife is. For that matter, most guns aren’t effective crowd control weapons, though a plane is lousy terrain for charging a gunman. (Not that there is such a thing as good terrain for that.)

The boxcutters were used to take people hostage and initiate (we thought) the old take over a plane and fly around for a few hours or days and then the hijackers surrender or get stormed and you go home and write a book about your experiences routine. Had happened dozens of times. The passengers all followed procedure and did not resist.

On 9/11 nobody knew there was a new meme in town, but the guys on Flight 93 took less than a half hour to figure it out and launch a counterattack.

Nobody will ever take over a plane again. They might succeed in blowing one up, but there will be no more hijackings.


31 posted on 03/07/2013 7:17:11 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Joshua
What I am saying is the DHS has no coherent thinking in their decisions. When you start the post with that line how is anybody supposed to refute it? Seriously, point taken.

It is easy to refute it just give an example proving they are coherent or rational.

32 posted on 03/07/2013 7:19:14 PM PST by ProudFossil (" I never did give anyone hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was hell." Harry Truman)
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To: dynachrome

True story (and shows how dangerous and stupid TSA is).

During the Bush Aministration, one of his Secret Service agents had to catch a commercial flight somewhere and showed the TSA agent his Secret Service credentials as well as the loaded 9mm Glock he was carrying.

The TSA agent looked over the paperwork the Secret Service agent showed him and allowed him to board the aircraft after confiscating his tweezers!!


33 posted on 03/07/2013 7:20:30 PM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for anti-American criminals!!)
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To: dynachrome

I think the word got to them to “lighten up on the little people, they are getting restless”, so bingo, now we can carry lacrosse sticks, plastic bats, TWO golf clubs, and tiny knives.

Or, they need to provoke some event to justify their existence, and a lacrosse stick- bat melee would fit the bill.


34 posted on 03/07/2013 7:28:08 PM PST by DBrow
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The knives they are talking about are the tiny knives with 2” blades less than 1/4” wide. You would be hard pressed to make a weapon out of it.

Exactly. Also, no locking blades. That really reduces the effectiveness as a stabbing weapon. If I had one of these knives on a plane and someone tried to take over the plane - I'd drop the knife and grab the nearest laptop, wielding it like a club.

About the only threat from these very small pocket knives is if the perp grabs someone from behind and holds it to their neck, demanding access to the flight deck or else...

35 posted on 03/07/2013 7:29:26 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: John Semmens; The Looking Spoon; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ..

Thanks dynachrome, some satire:

Bloomberg to outlaw metal and plastic tableware
Future News Now | 3-7-13 | Retired Texas Vet
Posted on 03/07/2013 7:02:43 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2994665/posts


36 posted on 03/07/2013 7:42:36 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: dynachrome

Sure. Whut could go wrong?

I say let katana’s and single action cowboy revolvers on too!!!


37 posted on 03/07/2013 9:44:30 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: dynachrome

We aren’t going to win this one. The “disarm everybody” crowd is out in force. Personally, I think
that every sane, law-abiding adult American citizen should be armed at all times and self regulated
(regulated in the Constitutional meaning, i.e., trained to handle ordnance), but that’s just me, I guess.

No
78% - 8,137

Yes
22% - 2,230

Total votes: 10,367


38 posted on 03/08/2013 5:18:22 AM PST by TheOldLady
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To: dynachrome
It's not just the knives. A small vintage bat is what can be called a “Billy Club”. Break a pool cue over your knee and you now have a pretty effective spear. Allowing these aboard planes is insanity. Does anyone give a damn for the safety of the flight attendants? If you had someone in your family that worked as air crew and whose personal safety was seriously compromised by this you may agree that it's not a very bright idea. John Pistole should be FIRED for gross incompetency.

S/

39 posted on 03/08/2013 5:45:07 AM PST by Captain7seas (Fire Jane Lubchenco and John Pistole.)
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To: verga

Precisely. Far more lethal than a two inch knife. IMHO . There are many ways to defend oneself that people never consider using. Well said old bean.


40 posted on 03/11/2013 6:58:08 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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