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The Calm Before The Solar Storm? NASA Warns "Something Unexpected Is Happening To The Sun'"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ ^ | March 8, 2013 | Mark Prigg

Posted on 03/08/2013 3:49:49 PM PST by Biggirl

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To: PapaBear3625; Star Traveler

If one looks at the past history of climate change, the short warm periods between the ice ages have been about 10,000 years or less. We are at about 12,000 years. Of course no one can predict the future on such things, but it would not surprise me to see a repeat of what has been going on for the last 400,000 years.

The first chart at the link shows what I’m talking about.

http://climatechange.thinkaboutit.eu/think4/post/the_co2_ability_to_time_travel


81 posted on 03/09/2013 1:01:08 PM PST by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: PapaBear3625
Here's what I'm talking about - the year 2015!

Livingston and Penn paper: “Sunspots may vanish by 2015″.

Abstract: We have observed spectroscopic changes in temperature sensitive molecular lines, in the magnetic splitting of an Fe I line, and in the continuum brightness of over 1000 sunspot umbrae from 1990-2005. All three measurements show consistent trends in which the darkest parts of the sunspot umbra have become warmer (45K per year) and their magnetic field strengths have decreased (77 Gauss per year), independently of the normal 11-year sunspot cycle. A linear extrapolation of these trends suggests that FEW SUNSPOTS WILL BE VISIBLE AFTER 2015.

Sunspot umbral magnetic fields also show systematic temporal changes during the observing period as demonstrated by the sample spectra in Figure 1. The infrared Fe 1564.8 nm is a favorable field diagnostic since the line strength changes less than a factor of two between the photosphere and spot umbra and the magnetic Zeeman splitting is fully resolved for all sunspot umbrae. In a histogram plot of the distribution of the umbral magnetic fields that we observe, 1500 Gauss is the smallest value measured. Below this value photospheric magnetic fields do not produce perceptible darkening.

Figure 3 presents the magnetic fields smoothed by a 12 point running mean from 1998 to 2005. The ordinate is chosen so that 1500 G is the minimum. A linear fit to the changing magnetic field produces a slope of 77 Gauss per year, and intercepts the abscissa at 2015. IF THE PRESENT TREND CONTINUES, THIS DATE IS WHEN SUNSPOTS WILL DISAPPEAR FROM THE SOLAR SURFACE.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/02/livingston-and-penn-paper-sunspots-may-vanish-by-2015/

82 posted on 03/09/2013 6:02:43 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: 21twelve

See my post right above this ... that’s what I’m referring to - the year 2015 ...


83 posted on 03/09/2013 6:04:39 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: dfwgator
The Sun?!?!? What is it?

Its that big bright hot star closest to the earth, but this isn't time to talk about that.

84 posted on 03/09/2013 7:30:40 PM PST by Nachoman (Wisdom is learned, cynicism is earned.)
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To: Travis McGee

The sun is upset with all the photovoltaic cells we’ve been building without paying him his due. Must burn more oil! /s


85 posted on 03/09/2013 7:32:28 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Star Traveler
The big thing is that the Livingston and Penn paper came out in June 2008. Close to five years later, their predictions look a lot more accurate than the models that NASA and NOAA/SWPC are using.

There's also this graph of solar cycle variations

Notice that in solar cycles 21 and 22, the solar flare index was closely in sync with the other indicators, but in solar cycle 23 (1995-2009) started diverging. This might be connected to what Livingston and Penn are talking about.

If the solar trend continues down into 2013, and the winter of 2012-14 is unusually cold, it may be time to start worrying.

86 posted on 03/10/2013 8:01:43 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Too bad we don’t have a “Like” button here ... :-)


87 posted on 03/10/2013 1:07:51 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Salamander

Nothing wrong with that! I already enjoyed some of their early 70s era songs. But had not ever heard, or heard-and not known of Pink Floyd or their earlier work! “Put Down That Axe, Eugene” is really creepy! I like “Flaming”, and “Watch Emily Play”, “Arnold Layne”, and last, but not least- “Astronome Domine”! There was a strangely spacey, psychedelic ring to some of them, particularly “Astronome Domine”, wasn’t there?


88 posted on 03/12/2013 9:31:31 PM PDT by dsutah
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To: dsutah

The whole album is spacy.

I’m sure if I’d been a teenage stoner, I would’ve enjoyed it “properly” but I wasn’t.

Stone cold sober, it’s still pretty freaky.

[but hey, I did have a 4’ black light in my bedroom...*groovy*!]

LOL


89 posted on 03/12/2013 10:27:11 PM PDT by Salamander (We're all kinds of animals comin' round here...occasional demons, too.)
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