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How 2 Teens Survived deadly Ohio SUV crash; owner says car stolen
CBS ^ | March 11, 2013

Posted on 03/12/2013 12:53:47 AM PDT by nickcarraway

wo teens who escaped a crash that killed six friends in a swampy pond wriggled out of the wreckage by smashing a rear window and swimming away from the SUV, a state trooper said Monday.

The inside of the sport utility vehicle was entirely under water within minutes of the crash, said State Highway Patrol Lt. Brian Holt.

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1 posted on 03/12/2013 12:53:47 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Six out of Eight dead car thieves ain't bad.
2 posted on 03/12/2013 1:07:52 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: BigCinBigD

Death penalty for auto theft?


3 posted on 03/12/2013 1:09:30 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Eight kids in a stolen car at 7 in the morning is usually a recipe for disaster. Interestingly, the news anchor on the video at the website (linked above) said the kids were, “Returning home from a sleepover.”


4 posted on 03/12/2013 1:12:03 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: nickcarraway

Apparently.


5 posted on 03/12/2013 2:37:30 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: nickcarraway

Ramone White wasn’t. Looks like the rest were also Obama’s Son’s & Daughters.

PJ O’Rourke’s “...like giving keys and alcohol to teenaged boys..” is as destructive to individuals as governments.

We allowed not just our government to be devolved into what all black nations and Black run cities in America have become - we allowed the faulty premises of that nexus of color and cultural devolution into America at large.

The time of choice is upon us, in our every decision as well as in the voting booth.

We can be either responsible and free OR others (the Tyrannical) will rule us some sort of order is essential.

Thanks to generations willing to allow collectivist trash into office, Tomorrow doesn’t look good.

Hmmmn - is off-planet emigration possible yet?

Bad decision, America. Bad for the African nations we cut loose long before they were ready, bad for American cities run by unacculturated black officials, bad for the world.

Why the world?

Because “if the American experiment in self government fails, what will come after will be unspeakably worse”.

Lastly, if Justice Thomas and Thomas Sowell can succeed, so can anyone.

Culture IS critical.

“Hold on, my friends, to the Constitution and to the Republic for which it stands. Miracles do not cluster and what has happened once in 6,000 years, may not happen again. Hold on to the Constitution, for if the American Constitution should fail, there will be anarchy throughout the world.”

Anarchy has destroyed Detoilet,Michigan, has trashed America’s black urban areas, and has been the goal of Islam for the last 1,400 years.

As a certain alleged authority once told a group of our cultural ancestors, “I put before you this day Life and Death. Therefore, choose Life.”

In a different desert (a cultural desert, not the Mid Eastern desert), Americans now face our hour of choice.

Responsible individuals living within the bounds of the Constitution
OR
Subjects of whatever tyranny replaces the Constitution & the Republic


6 posted on 03/12/2013 2:38:41 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."..)
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To: Lancey Howard

When my daughter was in high school she was invited to a coed “sleepover”. Our reaction was are-you-out-of-your-mind, but somewhat short of hysterical, but only because of extreme restraint on our part.


7 posted on 03/12/2013 2:41:46 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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To: nickcarraway

Really bad news writing. Owner files police report for stolen vehicle, investigators don’t know why the 8 teenagers were in the car, they didn’t have permission and were not related to the owner.

Really? Journalists can’t do any better than this?


8 posted on 03/12/2013 2:43:44 AM PDT by Big Giant Head
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To: Lancey Howard
Its just good that they didnt take any innocents out with them!
9 posted on 03/12/2013 2:45:19 AM PDT by TheGunny
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
When my daughter was in high school she was invited to a coed “sleepover”.

LOL! My twin daughters were, too, but they knew what the reaction was going to be.

They conned one of their friends into asking for them while they did the duck-and-cover.

10 posted on 03/12/2013 3:32:09 AM PDT by MamaTexan (To follow Original Constitutional Intent, one MUST acknowledge the Right of Secession)
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To: GladesGuru

Fogging a mirror as the only prerequisite to vote is ultimately our downfall. If you’re on the dole, you don’t vote, it’s that simple. Lots of things would be cleaned up pretty quickly with this one change.


11 posted on 03/12/2013 3:37:48 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: nickcarraway

No, hanging out with trash.


12 posted on 03/12/2013 3:41:02 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: FreedomPoster

If you’re on the dole, you don’t vote, it’s that simple. Lots of things would be cleaned up pretty quickly with this one change.

Exactly, and that should include any corporations that take government money. No campaign donations, no voting for management, nothing.


13 posted on 03/12/2013 3:44:55 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: nickcarraway

Judging from their names, I’d say that these car thieves were definitely thugs in training.


14 posted on 03/12/2013 3:47:39 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: freedomfiter2
If you’re on the dole, you don’t vote, it’s that simple.

I'd add a couple more conditions. If you want a government check: 1) you gotta take the whiz quiz. 2) no felons can live in your home.

15 posted on 03/12/2013 3:48:00 AM PDT by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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To: FreedomPoster

” If you’re on the dole, you don’t vote, it’s that simple. “

I’m with you. The old people on Social Security and Medicare are ROBBING MY KIDS BLIND - those programs need to be OVERHAULED. I’m also not too hot on the Food Stamp and Free Housing people.


16 posted on 03/12/2013 4:34:02 AM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: freedomfiter2
If you’re on the dole, you don’t vote, it’s that simple.

I don't buy this. It should be as before: If you can't read American English, you don't vote. And if you can't prove your citizenship and residence, no vote, along with that.

17 posted on 03/12/2013 4:35:39 AM PDT by imardmd1
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To: nickcarraway

I’m sure the owner has mixed feelings. Almost certainly, given that it was 7 AM, he had left the engine running to warm up the car. Now 6 people are dead...but (and I’ll leave it at that).


18 posted on 03/12/2013 4:37:44 AM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: BobL
Odd, you are far more hostile to the people that paid into programs (SS) than to people that just take (SNAP).

You may argue that more is taken out than paid in but that is largely due to perpetual inflation and no accounting for interest.

But feel free to hate on us.

19 posted on 03/12/2013 4:54:01 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (They say "Right Wing" but they mean "Wrong Wing"!)
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To: BobL
The old people on Social Security and Medicare are ROBBING MY KIDS BLIND -

More self-deceit. These are not robbing your children. Both of hese programs are insurance instruments, not giveaways. The Social Security receipts after 63 are based on the amounts paid into the funds during employment years. Aged people are still paying their Medicare Part A & B insurance premiums every month, and their Plan D Prescription premiums with private insurers every month as well.

The flaw is having placed the money for Social Security and Medicare under federal non-profit control, rather than requiring participation in under private insurers (as Part D is).

In fact, IT IS YOUR KIDS who are not working and who are getting school money, for whom the government is ROBBING THE AGED of the money long ago placed in these funds by them. Don't be such a dunce! You have this exactly backward.

20 posted on 03/12/2013 4:59:13 AM PDT by imardmd1
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To: Aevery_Freeman

“Odd, you are far more hostile to the people that paid into programs (SS) than to people that just take (SNAP).”

No, I look at both sides equally. A person said that people who take from others shouldn’t vote. People on both SS and SNAP are presently STEALING from my kids, so I agreed with him that they shouldn’t vote. No hate on my part, just hoping to see some reform, so the country will get moving again.

As to people that “claim” to have paid into it, they know better, the government books are not secret, they knew the money was spent as it came in and payback would be dumped on future generations. In other words they knew it was just another form of income tax, since there is no lockbox and the money is simply gone.


21 posted on 03/12/2013 5:02:21 AM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: imardmd1

“Both of hese programs are insurance instruments, not giveaways.”

What a line of crap. Insurance plans are REQUIRED to hold on to money or people go to jail. Plans which claim to be insurance and don’t have money are PYRAMID SCHEMES and the people that paid into them have NO CLAIM on my kid’s money, any more than someone that paid into Bernie Madoff has a claim on my kid’s earnings.

But don’t worry, just like the President’s kids, your government will put a gun to the heads of my kids (figuratively or literally) and TAKE the money from them that YOU DEMAND. So you’ll get it, nothing to worry about.

By the way, my kids NEVER stepped foot in your schools, which is why they’re able to understand just what you people are doing to them and the country.


22 posted on 03/12/2013 5:16:32 AM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: BobL

“I’m with you. The old people on Social Security and Medicare are ROBBING MY KIDS BLIND - those programs need to be OVERHAULED.”

Actually, many of us old people after having been taxed on it before we paid in to Social Security throughout out working years, pay tax on it again when we take it out. By your reckoning, we should get to vote twice...


23 posted on 03/12/2013 5:18:49 AM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: nickcarraway

Think of it as Evolution in Action ...


24 posted on 03/12/2013 5:21:42 AM PDT by BlueLancer ("Oh, man, that's a lot of Indians!" [LTC George A. Custer, 1876, near the Little Bighorn Valley])
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To: imardmd1
Right on brother....SS is dwarfed by the money wasted on supposedly education programs which in reality is a union giveaway!!!
25 posted on 03/12/2013 5:24:33 AM PDT by ontap
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To: BobL

Rail on all you like but the facts are the gov. seized my money for 50 years and I intend to get as much of it back as I can. And I bet when you hit 62-63 you’ll mosey on down to the SS office and sign up!!!!


26 posted on 03/12/2013 5:29:09 AM PDT by ontap
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To: BobL
The fact that our politicians stole the money we were forced to pay in to use to buy votes does not make a criminal of me.

I'm not collecting either but your kids are STEALING (to uses your term) from everyone that pays property and sales tax for their education.

I've had to pay into Social Security and pay for public schools all my life and have no kids. (Oh, and I am a veteran).

Still, feel free to call me a thief.

Excessive government makes criminals of us all.

27 posted on 03/12/2013 5:33:35 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (They say "Right Wing" but they mean "Wrong Wing"!)
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To: nickcarraway

Self imposed.


28 posted on 03/12/2013 5:33:41 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: babygene
Interesting.

Crooked politicians have forced a Generational War through excessive taxation yet receive no blame for the cause.

Perhaps the anger on both sides needs to be more properly focused on the perpetrators.

29 posted on 03/12/2013 5:37:45 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (They say "Right Wing" but they mean "Wrong Wing"!)
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To: Lancey Howard

I just read that most of the parents had no idea where their children were? Some of them as young as 14?


30 posted on 03/12/2013 5:47:02 AM PDT by angcat
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To: nickcarraway
Death penalty for auto theft?

If they were caught by an armed homeowner trying to steal $30K in non-vehicular property, they would have been just as dead.

31 posted on 03/12/2013 5:48:31 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Big Giant Head

Anyone can be a journalist you don’t need brains.


32 posted on 03/12/2013 5:49:48 AM PDT by angcat
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To: nickcarraway
“two teens who escaped a crash that killed six friends in a swampy pond wriggled out of the wreckage by smashing a rear window and swimming away”

The Ted Kennedy strategy times 6.

33 posted on 03/12/2013 5:56:34 AM PDT by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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To: imardmd1

While I agree with you, how stupid is it to pay into a govt “plan” that promises to hold on to your money for you then give it back to you later when you “need” it?
Ponzi, anyone?


34 posted on 03/12/2013 7:37:35 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: TheGunny

“Its just good that they didnt take any innocents out with them!”

Very Good


35 posted on 03/12/2013 7:39:26 AM PDT by depenzz
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To: Aevery_Freeman

Correct. Unfortunately, nobody, and I mean NOBODY is going to come out and say what needs to be said

1) It’s a ponzi scheme
2) There’s no $$
3) You’re not entitled to anything from the Treasury
4) SS/Medicare/Dept. of XYZ - 0’d out of budget

I think only the ‘kook’ (L) have been the ones to bring up the obvious while those in D.C. continue to line their own pockets.


36 posted on 03/12/2013 9:33:15 AM PDT by i_robot73 (We hold that all individuals have the Right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives - LP.org)
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To: FreedomPoster
Fogging a mirror as the only prerequisite to vote is ultimately our downfall. If you’re on the dole, you don’t vote, it’s that simple. Lots of things would be cleaned up pretty quickly with this one change.

Well, yeah - - it would be the end of the Democrat party.

37 posted on 03/12/2013 9:35:30 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: BobL

Welfare, food stamps, WIC, ‘free” school breakfasts and lunches, Section 8 housing, Obamaphones, Medicaid, SSDI “crazy checks”, government services for illegal aliens, etc., etc., on infinitum. ...AFTER you cut off the Democrat party’s base of moochers, bums, deadbeats, and parasites, THEN talk to me about trimming back benefits for seniors who dumped their hard-earned money down the government toilet their entire working lives.

Until then, STFU.
Thank you.


38 posted on 03/12/2013 9:44:56 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: i_robot73
Yet, there is a solution.

The Feds may have no money BUT I will take a nice 40-acre plot in Yellowstone Park for my share.

Yes, a flippant remark but the government owns many things that they should not including mining, drilling and harvesting rights that they refuse to allow us to utilize.

The problem of the debt could not only be fixed but freedom enhanced at the same time.

A win-win for the people and a huge loss for the government.

Warms your heart, doesn't it!

39 posted on 03/12/2013 10:03:55 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (They say "Right Wing" but they mean "Wrong Wing"!)
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To: Big Giant Head
Really bad news writing. Owner files police report for stolen vehicle, investigators don’t know why the 8 teenagers were in the car, they didn’t have permission and were not related to the owner.
Really? Journalists can’t do any better than this?

"Journalists" face two main obstacles in this regard. First, they "ain't all that bright". School of Journalism students are almost always in the bottom tier in terms of college entrance scores. Secondly, they are either unwilling or unable to write a story that does not conform to the Liberal line. To the Left, Blacks are eternal victims, and thus cannot be blamed when something goes "amiss". Thus, the story had to be written, but had to leave out the criminal act. What you have left is the poorly-worded dreck that we get in modern news stories.

40 posted on 03/12/2013 10:08:44 AM PDT by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: Lancey Howard

“...THEN talk to me about trimming back benefits for seniors who dumped their hard-earned money down the government toilet their entire working lives.”

Then I guess we don’t talk, since their side won’t give either. But don’t worry, my kids will PAY TRIBUTE to you, but only because you’ve got the votes to have the government point a gun at my kids.

Have a nice evening too.


41 posted on 03/12/2013 4:01:24 PM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: Aevery_Freeman

“I’m not collecting either but your kids are STEALING (to uses your term) from everyone that pays property and sales tax for their education.”

I made it clear earlier (and many, many, other times) that my kids have NEVER stepped foot in a government school, so that example doesn’t work. But don’t you have the votes you need to get their money, just as they try to start raising their own family. You have NOTHING to worry about.


42 posted on 03/12/2013 4:03:28 PM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: ontap

“Rail on all you like but the facts are the gov. seized my money for 50 years and I intend to get as much of it back as I can. And I bet when you hit 62-63 you’ll mosey on down to the SS office and sign up!!!!”

I won’t have to, but that’s only because I accepted what everyone has known FOR DECADES, which was that Social Security was simply another form of income tax - so I lived a bit lower than I needed to, and I’ll be fine in retirement.


43 posted on 03/12/2013 4:04:59 PM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: babygene

“Actually, many of us old people after having been taxed on it before we paid in to Social Security throughout out working years, pay tax on it again when we take it out. By your reckoning, we should get to vote twice...”

Unfortunately, you guys are not “taking it out”, you’re just “taking it”, and from my kids. I really don’t care about your history (it’s the same as mine), I just cannot understand why you have the right to steal from my kids.


44 posted on 03/12/2013 4:06:53 PM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: BobL

“Unfortunately, you guys are not “taking it out”, you’re just “taking it”, and from my kids.”

The “taking it from your kids” was done by the politicians not the seniors that you rail about. And assuming that you vote, you had and have as much responsibility for that as anyone else.

I have kids too, and both are high achievers with families and six figure incomes. The two of them contribute more than I get per month. Quit bitching and raise you kids right and you will not have a problem (and neither will your kids).


45 posted on 03/12/2013 4:55:45 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: babygene

“I have kids too, and both are high achievers with families and six figure incomes. The two of them contribute more than I get per month. Quit bitching and raise you kids right and you will not have a problem (and neither will your kids).”

You seem to have real losers as kids then, if they’re not willing to help you out - and instead you have to get the government to stick a gun to my kids to pay you tribute.

Bummer.


46 posted on 03/12/2013 5:13:25 PM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: BobL

I’ll be signing up for Social Security in the very near future, the morning of the very first day I am eligible to start getting back some of what the scumbag politicians confiscated from me my whole life. I hope you raised your kids to work hard and pay their taxes. And be sure to tell them, “Thanks for helping Lancey with his boat payments and casino trips in his retirement.”

You have a nice evening, too!


47 posted on 03/12/2013 5:20:52 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

I’ll be signing up for Social Security in the very near future, the morning of the very first day I am eligible to start getting back some of what the scumbag politicians confiscated from me my whole life. I hope you raised your kids to work hard and pay their taxes. And be sure to tell them, “Thanks for helping Lancey with his boat payments and casino trips in his retirement.”

You have a nice evening, too!”

Thanks, my kids are fine too. But when they get political power, there will be hell to pay.


48 posted on 03/12/2013 5:30:49 PM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: ontap

You do realize that in Fleming V. Nestor the Supreme Court ruled that you are not entitled to Social Security benefits just because you paid into it. Any Congress can pass a law discontinuing this program, and you will get zero, nada.

Now, who in their right minds would have let the federal government run such a Ponzi scheme all these years? The American sheeple are dumber than rocks.


49 posted on 03/12/2013 5:33:20 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: BobL
I would disagree.

I have to worry about politicians fomenting a Generational War to cover for the fact that they are robbing the citizenry blind.

Just check the angry language on this thread.

50 posted on 03/12/2013 6:56:53 PM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (They say "Right Wing" but they mean "Wrong Wing"!)
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