Skip to comments.'She didn't affirmatively say no': Silence means consent according to defense...(Steubenville rape)
Posted on 03/12/2013 8:26:48 PM PDT by Morgana
FULL TITLE: 'She didn't affirmatively say no': Silence means consent according to defense in Ohio high school rape trial where passed out, drunken teenage girl was 'sexually assaulted' by multiple football players
Defense lawyers in the coming trial of two high school football players charged with raping a nearly passed-out-drunk 16-year-old girl are expected to argue on the issue of consent.
In the case that has shocked the nation, prosecutors state that the inebriated girl was taken to a number of parties by a group of drunk teenagers, supporting her to walk when she wasn't physically capable.
The prosecution claims that the group later sexually assaulted the girl while she lay unconscious.
But attorney Walter Madison, who represents one of the accused boys, argues she was drinking voluntarily and left willingly with the group of boys.
As reported by the Cleveland Trader Madison said: 'There's an abundance of evidence here that she was making decisions, cognitive choices.' 'She didn't affirmatively say no,' he stated.
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She's no more a "victim" than a drunk driver that wraps their car around a tree: except you can't prosecute a tree to mitigate your lack of judgement.
How close are we to crossing that line where the victim just needs ‘four witnesses against her to accuse her of lewdness’.
This is reprehensible, but I don’t see what your point in posting it is. Is it not the duty of defense council to make the best case it can for the defendents? As far as I can tell, they are the only ones blaming the victim.
Load of crap. The rapists used free will to attack her. They aren’t trees who she happened to run into.
Sure she was drunk, but that does not make her any less a victim.
You are a disgusting pig.
This is a little off topic, but from an article posted a couple of items below this one;
“The faces of U.S. soldiers in combat are beginning to change, but women arent just newly permitted on the front lines of the battlefield. “
Why if women are being raped, need special protection, as in the violence against women act, and why do service members have to attend several hour long indoctrination on how to treat women, i.e., sexual harrassment classes, why if it is wrong to hit a woman (and I generally believe this), why is it appropriate to have them in combat?
Perhaps the O admin hopes to run all terrorists into federal court on violence against women charges?
As someone mentioned at the start of this, Steubenville is a disaster area, and the only thing they have any pride left in is this winning football team. The girl amounts to little more than a human sacrifice, which they are willing to give as she is not a local.
The town has lost its humanity. It has lost its soul.
She was drunk but she never said “yes”.
Also she was underage which begs a bigger question “who got her the booze”????
Yes such nice /sarc jocks and their booze. Hope each one looses their scholarships.
She was passed out drunk. An underage girl passed out drunk. Yet no one has questioned where she got the booze? That in itself is a crime. Then there’s the fact the damn jocks raped her while she was passed out. All of whom, I might add, were also underage to be drinking.
When the assailant was sentenced to several years in prison for a related crime the same night (sexual contact with a 15-year-old), there was a national outcry that the sentence was too severe and that he should be freed. His supporters demanded that his record be expunged and that he be allowed to pursue his football career.
The bottom line to me has always been that Genarlow Wilson raped a 17-year-old girl, with videotaped evidence as proof, and that he deserved every single year he was sentenced to. Yet even here on Free Republic, he had his defenders.
Wow. I just learned something new: if you're a really drunk girl, that means it's "okay" for guys to rape you. Boy-howdy! I'm glad I learned this before it was too late. /oh, yes, certainly sarc>
You are right. Hopefully she has a redneck dad who will make sure those rapists don’t have the ‘equipment’ to do it again.
“Genarlow”? Sounds like yet another miscreant Amish youth.
No, I disagree.
She likely did not have 27 beers before this happened. It’s more likely that she had one drink, but it was laced with GHB or something similar.
Am I surprised that a teenager got passed out drunk and raped? Unfortunately no and unfortunately it’s not a recent phenomenon. Not that ever was ‘right’ or ‘good’ or anything of the sort. Am I surprised that there is not a father on trial for beating the rapist to death? Again, unfortunately no. That however “IS” a recent phenomenon. Then again, 30 years ago one would be hard pressed to find a jury that would convict him or a cop to arrest him to begin with.
There are MANY things we need to regress on. This ‘enlightened’ society we live in is anything but.
While the defense is making the case it has to make, I wouldn’t be surprised if the rapists and their parents are actually buying into it. That would be even more shameful. Do none of these jerks have sisters, or the least bit of empathy? There is something very, very wrong.
I don’t really understand how the game of Football can usurp basic morality with some Freepers.
Did you see the Peen St pedo threads? I thought I was on DU.
I'd wager on that.