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Physicists say they have found a Higgs boson
AP, via Drudge ^ | March 14, 2013 | AP

Posted on 03/14/2013 5:32:41 AM PDT by PapaBear3625

GENEVA (AP) - Physicists said Thursday they are now confident they have discovered a crucial subatomic particle known as a Higgs boson - a major discovery that will go a long ways toward helping them explain why the universe is the way it is.

They made the statement following study of the data gathered last year from the world's largest atom-smasher, which lies beneath the Swiss-French border outside Geneva. The European Organization for Nuclear Research, or CERN, said that what they found last year was, indeed, a version of what is popularly referred to as the "God particle."

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The Higgs boson would explain why matter has mass. Hat tip to DrudgeReport
1 posted on 03/14/2013 5:32:42 AM PDT by PapaBear3625
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To: PapaBear3625

This 24 hours has been very, very interesting. First a Pope from the Americas now finding the “God particle”.


2 posted on 03/14/2013 5:41:55 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: PapaBear3625

Amazing discovery if true.


3 posted on 03/14/2013 5:42:39 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act - Orwell)
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To: PapaBear3625
Have they discovered it in nature or mathematically? If mathematically, than it's still hypothetics.
4 posted on 03/14/2013 5:47:25 AM PDT by celmak
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To: PapaBear3625

I’m not trying to hijack this thread, but can somebody tell me why even a minimally educated writer would say something like, “goes a long WAYS to helping them” and expect the reader to pay attention to the rest of the article.


5 posted on 03/14/2013 5:49:41 AM PDT by 1raider1
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To: celmak

They found a particle last year, and said it might be a Higgs boson. The current announcement is them saying “we’ve finished analyzing the data, and we’re now pretty sure it was a Higgs boson”.


6 posted on 03/14/2013 5:55:20 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625

More details from BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21785205


7 posted on 03/14/2013 5:56:40 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: 1raider1

Educated has a very broad definition in Obama’s America.


8 posted on 03/14/2013 5:58:06 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: celmak
Have they discovered it in nature or mathematically? If mathematically, than it's still hypothetics.

From the excerpt above:

"They made the statement following study of the data gathered last year from the world's largest atom-smasher." Unless somebody cooked the numbers, it looks more like nature.
9 posted on 03/14/2013 5:59:58 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics is.)
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To: PapaBear3625
... a major discovery that will go a long ways toward helping them explain why the universe is the way it is.

To what end?

10 posted on 03/14/2013 6:16:15 AM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: 1raider1

I agree, when I see something like “it’s” for a possessive or “could care less” or other plainly ignorant implantings in articles I tend to discount the message.


11 posted on 03/14/2013 6:19:35 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: 1raider1

I once heard compare using an “atom smasher” to figuring out how to build a car by crashing one into another car, then examining the wreck.


12 posted on 03/14/2013 6:20:00 AM PDT by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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To: PapaBear3625

Heisenberg says “are you sure?”


13 posted on 03/14/2013 6:20:49 AM PDT by ne1410s ("We will not tolerate your intolerance!!!" ...huh?)
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To: Phlap
They 'think' that the Higgs Boson makes up a field that imparts mass. It does so by imparting inertia on the quarks that make up protons. The Higgs has no spin, unlike other elementary particles.

Now, I don't think they have observed the Higgs particle causing this or have measured its mass. I think they found a particle and it seems, initially, that it has no spin. I think there's a leap there because they are really trying to square up the Standard Model and explain where mass comes from.

Disclaimer : I am not a physicist, nor do I play one on T.V. I also did not stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
14 posted on 03/14/2013 6:21:12 AM PDT by Graing ("The power of wind, fire... all that kind of thing")
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To: PapaBear3625

H+(pigs-p)
bow+zone
pear+tickle

Higgs boson particle

15 posted on 03/14/2013 6:22:47 AM PDT by kidd
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To: PapaBear3625

Did Leonard and Sheldon find it?


16 posted on 03/14/2013 6:24:29 AM PDT by shelterguy
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Was it under the couch?


17 posted on 03/14/2013 6:25:24 AM PDT by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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To: Biggirl

Yesterday the scientists said they found the known “minor” particle not the “major” god particle they say they found today.

I tend to doubt it. But, on the positive side, scientists do and must acknowledge the existing of God as the creator if they found what he built.


18 posted on 03/14/2013 6:25:41 AM PDT by edcoil (Half of every class gratuates at the bottom, they are now politicians.)
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To: Phlap
"To what end?"

This is perhaps one of the best questions one could ask. In the case of men like Hawking, Hitchens, Dawkins, et al, it is so they can fall into the darkness satisfied they proved that their lives were meaningless.

For others, it underscores the truthfulness of Paul's remarks. He observes the persuasion God gave some, "...that what was seen was not made out of things which are visible." turns out to be the case. And, the discovery will strengthen that persuasion.

19 posted on 03/14/2013 6:26:43 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: PapaBear3625

Why does matter have mass? Isn’t this like asking why does whiteness have white in it?


20 posted on 03/14/2013 6:27:24 AM PDT by dinoparty
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To: PapaBear3625

If the Higgs boson is, as we’ve been told, THE definitive or “GOD” particle, then how is it that it only helps them understand and doesn’t completely answer the question of how the universe came to be. Is there another particle yet to be found which will supersede the “ultimate” one?


21 posted on 03/14/2013 6:29:33 AM PDT by 1raider1
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To: PapaBear3625

I would think the new Pope could explain why we have Mass. ;)


22 posted on 03/14/2013 6:32:47 AM PDT by Gasshog (Welcome to the United States of Stupidos!)
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To: Biggirl

Oh... never mind. My dyslexic brain thought it said “Big Bosoms”...

A bunch of “scientist” scouring over data to *find* what no one can see? And they FOUND it??? SHAZAM!!!


23 posted on 03/14/2013 6:33:09 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them)
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To: PapaBear3625

This morning, I shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got in my pajamas, I’ll never know.


24 posted on 03/14/2013 6:34:47 AM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: Phlap

Your comment makes more sense to me than the article.


25 posted on 03/14/2013 6:36:41 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: ne1410s
Heisenberg says “are you sure?”

"They're still trying to get the box open" said Professor Schroedinger...

26 posted on 03/14/2013 6:37:39 AM PDT by ZOOKER ( Exploring the fine line between cynicism and outright depression)
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To: PapaBear3625
"helping them explain why the universe is the way it is".

oh that explains a lot(sarcasm). Also depends on what the definition of is is.

This bs article doesn't say anything . these morons know nothing.

27 posted on 03/14/2013 6:39:31 AM PDT by Democrat_media (media makes mass shooters household names to create more & take our guns)
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To: Democrat_media

bingo!


28 posted on 03/14/2013 6:42:03 AM PDT by Gasshog (Welcome to the United States of Stupidos!)
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To: 1raider1

Forget the “god” particle nonsense, it’s just sensationalism. This is just another particle, it isn’t the ultimate anything.


29 posted on 03/14/2013 6:42:40 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: ne1410s
And you know not to mess with Heisenberg! :P
30 posted on 03/14/2013 6:42:41 AM PDT by RetroSexual
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To: PapaBear3625

Must be time to submit the multi-billion dollar budget for their collided. “we think we found it, if you give us $5 billion more, we will KNOW we found it”


31 posted on 03/14/2013 6:44:15 AM PDT by Daus
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To: edcoil

The Higgs is no more a God particle than any other particle. The name was a marketing gimmick for a book title and the press has run with it ever since.


32 posted on 03/14/2013 6:46:21 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Biggirl

This 24 hours has been very, very interesting. First a Pope from the Americas now finding the “God particle”....in Europe......


33 posted on 03/14/2013 6:47:37 AM PDT by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: loungitude

It was with all of my missing left socks.


34 posted on 03/14/2013 6:48:42 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Moonman62

Also, Higgs actually objects to people calling it the “God particle”


35 posted on 03/14/2013 6:49:18 AM PDT by Graing ("The power of wind, fire... all that kind of thing")
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To: loungitude

Who would have guessed? The Higgs-Boson was in the last place they looked.


36 posted on 03/14/2013 6:49:25 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: ne1410s
Heisenberg says “are you sure?”

Heisenberg also says “Then where is it?”........."and how fast was it going at the time?"........

37 posted on 03/14/2013 6:49:34 AM PDT by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: Carry_Okie
From another article:

"But the two experiments, CMS and ATLAS, hadn't collected enough data to say the particle was, for sure, the Higgs boson, the last undiscovered piece of the puzzle predicted by the Standard Model, the reigning theory of particle physics.

http://news.yahoo.com/confirmed-newfound-particle-higgs-130317830.html

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38 posted on 03/14/2013 6:50:35 AM PDT by celmak
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To: dinoparty
Why does matter have mass? Isn’t this like asking why does whiteness have white in it?

In other words, why does matter have inertia, and generates gravity.

39 posted on 03/14/2013 6:51:32 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: dinoparty

If it doesn’t have mass then it doesn’t matter........


40 posted on 03/14/2013 6:52:31 AM PDT by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: Phlap
To what end?

Grants! Lots of grants!

41 posted on 03/14/2013 6:53:07 AM PDT by Starstruck (I need a 30 round magazine because liberal whine gives me a buzz.)
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To: loungitude

Now if we could just get them to find my car keys.


42 posted on 03/14/2013 6:54:17 AM PDT by reegs
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To: Dutchboy88

The “reason” (for everything in this reality) is found in Gods Word.

The caveat is what a child can understand is rejected by “educated” men because you must accept the truth, by faith, not logic.

This particle will never be found because our Creator needed nothing else but to Will what we experience as reality into being. When they find His Love they will discover what they really seek.

yes thats pretty heavy I know but everytime I see this God particle stuff I feel compelled to speak the truth. so sue me!


43 posted on 03/14/2013 6:57:45 AM PDT by Gasshog (Welcome to the United States of Stupidos!)
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To: 1raider1

The “God particle” moniker was and is a journalistic construct (like “assault weapon”) based on a mistake by a journalist that got cemented in by repetition. Like “assault weapon”.

My father joined the National Guard in 1940. According to him the nickname “jeep” was applied to an Army staff car whose hood resembled the Popeye cartoon character “The Jeep”’s nose. Life Magazine did an article on “This is the Army” in which they misidentified the truck, quarter ton, 4 x 4 as “the jeep”. With the influx of millions of new soldiers into the Army with the onset of World War II, whose concept of the jeep was from the enormously influential Life Magazine, the misidentification stuck, unto this very day.

See also, the origin of the notion that the second full moon in a calender month is a “blue moon”. http://www.skyandtelescope.com/observing/objects/moon/3304131.html


44 posted on 03/14/2013 7:01:20 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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To: PapaBear3625

My Fair Lepton


45 posted on 03/14/2013 7:02:15 AM PDT by mikrofon (Oh, HIGGS ....)
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To: PapaBear3625

“...a major discovery that will go a long ways toward helping them explain why the universe is the way it is.”

If they really want to know why the universe is the way it is, all they have to do is read the Bible and believe it.


46 posted on 03/14/2013 7:10:33 AM PDT by TurkeyLurkey
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To: Revolting cat!

“Well, do you remember where you last had it?”


47 posted on 03/14/2013 7:11:20 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: 1raider1

The God gene remains too complex to find yet they want us to believe we evolved randomly from slime.

Ironic isn’t it?


48 posted on 03/14/2013 7:12:01 AM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: Moonman62
The Higgs is no more a God particle than any other particle. The name was a marketing gimmick for a book title and the press has run with it ever since.

I don't exactly disagree, but physicists referred to it as the God damned particle because it was so elusive. The author originally wanted to name his book "The God Damned Particle", but there was some squeamishness about the name, on whatever grounds. The publisher liked the name "The God Particle" as an alternative, since it would give the book more shelf appeal than something more accurate and descriptive, like "The Intermediate Gravitational Boson". I agree, the name was devised as a way to sell books, but journalists grabbed on to it. The headline in your local paper declaring "Scientists Find God Particle" will attract more readers than "Physicist Claim Measurements Consistent With Observation of Intermediate Graviational Boson at the 95 Percent Confidence Level." For some odd reason.

49 posted on 03/14/2013 7:12:32 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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To: PapaBear3625
explain why the universe is the way it is

Uhhh, because God created it?

50 posted on 03/14/2013 7:16:09 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Pray for Joe Biden- Proverbs 29:9)
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