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CPAC Dr. Carson (Live on Fox now!)
Fox ^ | 3/16/2013 | Me

Posted on 03/16/2013 7:53:29 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas

Carson is on fire at CPAC. Tune in!

TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: 2013cpac; bencarson; bencarsonspeech; carson; cpac
At one point he said, "If by some miracle I was to become president..." The crowd went wild.

He is as good a speaker for conservatism as I can recall.

Don't miss it!

1 posted on 03/16/2013 7:53:29 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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Speaking without TOTUS, too.

Take note, DOOFUS of the United States.

2 posted on 03/16/2013 7:54:49 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas


3 posted on 03/16/2013 7:56:55 AM PDT by Arlis (.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

You didn’t check.

I already posted it when it started:

And looks like it’s just over.

4 posted on 03/16/2013 7:58:35 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

An amazing, self made man. He pursued happiness and obtained it by hard work and determination.

5 posted on 03/16/2013 8:00:18 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

He was awesome!

6 posted on 03/16/2013 8:00:39 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike!
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

He’s more qualified than than that affirmative action hero to the lefty nation.

7 posted on 03/16/2013 8:03:52 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great natiorn is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

I’m glad Dr. Carson did so well, but five or six years ago Michael Steele sounded like a true Conservative too. Just sayin’.

8 posted on 03/16/2013 8:06:28 AM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Steely Tom

Actually, I’ve heard it said that Dr. Carson is libertarian or independent. That’s not so bad.

I don’t expect to agree with anyone 100%, but so far Dr. Carson has major advantages over the Gangsta-in-Chief.

9 posted on 03/16/2013 8:16:00 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Dr.Carson is the great example of the greatness of America. He came from nothing, worked his butt off, and achieved greatness on his own without the help of the do-gooder liberal apparatus that has destroyed the lives and hopes of so many minorities. Way to go Dr.Carson, the more you speak the more you infuriate the liberals and hopefully begin opening people’s eyes.

10 posted on 03/16/2013 8:24:23 AM PDT by dowcaet
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Dr. Carson's speech use of the term "ordered liberty" reminds me of Dr. Russell Kirk's use of that term to describe America's founding philosophy, and Dr. Carson's emphasis on the responsibility of citizens also ties in with an essay contributed by Dr. Kirk to "Our Ageless Constitution," a volume originally published in 1987, the Bicentennial Year of our Constitution. The essay describes the "responsibility of citizens" to preserve liberty--a concept which seems to describe what, today, would be a task for each of us who love freedom. The essay may be downloaded here, along with others from the book.


"Cherish, therefore, the spirit of our people, and keep alive their attention. If once they become inattentive to the public affairs, you and I, and Congress and Assemblies, judges and governors, shall all become wolves. It seems to be the law of our general nature." - Thomas Jefferson (Letter to Edward Carrington January 16, 1787

Background And Original Intent

"A good constitution is the greatest blessing which a socie­ty can enjoy." So said James Wilson, in his oration at Philadelphia on July 4, 1788, celebrating the adoption of the Constitution of the United States. Wilson, who signed both the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, preached startlingly democratic theories - more democratic than the ideas of any other delegate to the Constitutional Convention.

Yet Wilson emphasized the duties, as well as the rights, of citizens:

"Need I infer, that it is the duty of every citizen to use his best and most unremitting endeavours for preserving it [the Constitution] pure, healthful, and vigorous? For the accomplishment of this great purpose, the exertions of no one citizen are unimportant. Let no one, therefore harbour, for a moment, the mean idea, that he is and can be of no value to his country: let the contrary manly impres­sion animate his soul. Every one can, at many times, perform, to the state, useful services; and he, who steadily pursues the road of patriotism, has the most inviting prospect of being able, at some times, to perform eminent ones."

Wilson's argument is quite as sound now as it was two centuries ago. The success of the American Republic as a political structure has been the consequence, in very large part, of the voluntary participation of citizens in public affairs - enlisting in the army in time of war; serving on school boards; taking part unpaid in political campaigns; petitioning legislatures; sup­porting the President in an hour of crisis; and in a hundred other great ways, or small-assuming responsibility for the com­mon good. The Constitution has functioned well, most of the time, because conscientious men and women have given it flesh.

The Premises of Americans' Responsibility Under the Constitution of 1787

In the matters which most immediately affect private life, power should remain in the hands of the citizens, or of the several states - not in the possession of federal government. So, at least, the Constitution declares. Americans have no official cards of identity, or internal passports, or system of national registration of all citizens - obligations imposed upon citizens in much of the rest of the world. This freedom results from Americans' voluntary assumption of responsibility.

In matters of public concern, it was the original intent to keep authority as close to home as possible. The lesser courts, the police, the maintenance of roads and sanitation, the levying of real-property taxes, the control of public schools, and many other essential functions still are carried on by the agen­cies of local community: the township, the village, the city, the county, the voluntary association. Citizens' cooperation in voluntary community throughout the United States has been noted and commended in the books of Alexis de Tocqueville, Lord Bryce, Julian Marias, and other distinguished visitors to the United States, over the past two centuries:

A republic whose citizens - whose leaders, indeed - are concerned chiefly with "looking out for Number One," and ig­noring their responsibilities of citizenship, soon cannot "insure domestic tranquillity, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare" - or carry on the other major duties of the state. When the crisis comes, the people may turn in desperation to the hero-administrator, the misty figure somewhere at the summit. But in the end, that hero­administrator will not save the republic, although he may govern for a time by force. A democratic republic cannot long endure unless a great many of its citizens stand ready and will­ing to brighten the corner where they are, and to sacrifice much for the nation, if need be.

Has The Consciousness of Responsibility Withered in America?

For the past five or six decades, several perceptive observers have remarked, an increasing proportion of the American population has ceased to feel responsible for the common defense, for productive work, for choosing able men and women to represent them in politics, for accepting personal responsibility for the needs of the community, or even for their own livelihood. Unless this deterioration is arrested, the responsible citizens will be too few to support and protect the irresponsible. By 1978 there were more people receiving regular government checks than there were workers in the private sector.

What follows, if we are to judge by the history of fallen civilizations, is described by Albert Jay Nock in his book Memoirs of a Superfluous Man (1943):

"... closer centralization; a steadily growing bureaucracy; State power and faith in State power increasing; social power and faith in social power diminishing; the State absorbing a continually larger proportion of the national income; production languishing; the State in consequence taking over one 'essential industry' after another, managing them with ever-increasing corruption, inefficiency, and prodigality, and finally resorting to a system of forced labor. Then at some point in this process a collision of State interests, at least as general and as violent as that which occurred in 1914, will result in an industrial and financial dislocation too severe for the asthenic [weak] social structure to bear; and from this the State will be left to 'the rusty death of machinery' and the casual anonymous forces of dissolution."

Modem civilization offers a great variety of diversions, amusements, and enticements - some of them baneful. But modem civilization does not offer many inducements to the performance of duties, except perhaps monetary payment, and certainly it does not teach people that the real reward for responsible citizenship is the preservation of a free society.

It is not money that can induce citizens to labor and sacrifice for the common good. They must be moved by patriotism and their attachment to the Constitution. And patriotism alone, ignorant boasting about ones native land, would not suffice to preserve the Republic.

Thus it is that on the occasion of the Bicentennial celebrating of the Constitution, a mighty effort ought to be made to restore the American public's awareness of the principles of their government, of their responsibilities toward their country, their neighbors, their children, their parents, and themselves to be sure that their patrotism is based on this solid foundation. No one knows how late the hour is; but it is later than most people think. Love of the Republic shelters all our other loves; and that love is worth some sacrifice.

Responsibilities Are Readily Forgotten

Nearly all of us are quick to claim benefits, but not everybody is eager to fulfill obligations. We have become a nation obsessed with rights, forgetful of responsibilities. In an age of seeming affluence, a great many people find it easy to forget that all good things must be paid for by somebody or other - paid for through hard work, through painful abstinence, sometimes through bitter sacrifice. Below we set down some of the causes for the decline of a sense of responsibility among some American citizens.

In other words, the temptation of public men in Washington is always to offer to have the federal government assume fresh responsibilities - with consequent decay of local and private vigor (it might be argued that, at least in part, a failure in the proper exercise of citizens' responsibility permitted the development of the welfare state syndrome - that the government owes them a living. In any event, once it got under way and the welfare state grew, the sense of citizens' responsibility and rugged individualism deteriorated).

These are only some of the reasons why a 'permissive" society speaks often of rights and seldom of responsibilities. A time comes, in the course of events, when abruptly there is a most urgent need for men and women ready to fulfill high and exacting and dangerous responsibilities. And if there are no such citizens, then liberty can be lost. It must be remembered that the great strength of the Signers of the Declaration and the Framers of the Constitution was that they knew their classical history, and how the ancient Greek cities had lost their liberties, and how the Roman system had sunk to its ruin under the weight of proletariat and military state.

Prospects For The Renewal Of Responsibility

What may be done by way of remedy? Although America's social difficulties are formidable, probably they are less daunting than those of any other great nation today. The economic resources of the United States remain impressive; and the country's intellectual resources are large.

This essay cannot offer, in its small compass, a detailed program for the popular recovery of devotion to duty. Here we can only suggest healing approaches:

In your own circumstances, you may encounter oppor­tunities for the renewal of responsibility more promising where you live than any suggested here. In any society, it always has been a minority who have upheld order and justice and freedom. If only one out of every ten citizens of the United States of America should vigorously fulfill his responsibilities to our civil social order - why, we would not need to fear for the future of this nation.


  1. In all previous cultures, children ordinarily accepted responsibility for the well-being of their parents in old age; and in various societies, the children were so held accountable in law. Why has this form of responsibility decayed in the twentieth century? Can you think of political and social causes for the care of elderly parents being turned over to public agencies?

  2. Can you name seven or eight voluntary associations or organizations, not subsidized or directed by government, that perform important services in your community or in America generally? Explore the benefits from this kind of involvement as opposed to "letting the government do it."

  3. Responsible citizenship sometimes brings risks - all the way from unpopularity in some local dispute to pushing forward under enemy fire in military action. How may schools help to teach the rising generation the high importance of performing duties that may be dangerous?

  4. Are you and I personally responsible for our decisions and actions, or are we simply creatures of our environment, "conditioned" to respond in one way or another to events and challenges? Marshal the arguments on either side of this question, and then consider the probable social consequences of believing in freedom of the will, or believing that society, rather than the individual person, is responsible for citizen's actions.

  5. What are you doing to help preserve the great principles on which this nation and your personal freedoms are based?

Our Ageless Constitution, W. David Stedman & La Vaughn G. Lewis, Editors (Asheboro, NC, W. David Stedman Associates, 1987) Part VII Essay (Dr. Russell Kirk & La Vaughn G. Lewis, Co-Authors):  ISBN 0-937047-01-5 Read more

11 posted on 03/16/2013 8:30:13 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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thank you, for the post/history. :-)

12 posted on 03/16/2013 8:44:09 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: loveliberty2
did you know that there's, an app (smartphone) on the U.S. Constitution.. It's pretty kwel! 8-D

13 posted on 03/16/2013 8:48:01 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: loveliberty2
The essay describes the "responsibility of citizens" to preserve liberty--a concept which seems to describe what, today, would be a task for each of us who love freedom.

The pathway from God to natural rights and the preservation of natural rights that the Founding Fathers used started with God, then to God's creation, to nature, to God-created laws of nature, to God-created human nature, to God-created laws of human nature, to prescriptive moral laws,to the imposition of moral duties, to the implication of natural rights.Thus the natural right of liberty is implied from and derived from the duty to preserve liberty.

14 posted on 03/16/2013 9:00:09 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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Thanks! Among the founding principles laid out in the volume "Our Ageless Constitution," one essay is entitled "The Unique Idea" and another deals with the Founders' principle of "Natural Law." These and others can be downloaded at the same web site where cited above.

So-called "progressives" have turned the "unique idea" of Creator-People-Government upside down, seeking to impose a Government-over-People, without regard to God ideology.

"Ideas have consequences!" - Weaver

Consequences of the counterfeit idea are beginning to be seen today.

15 posted on 03/16/2013 9:11:13 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: loveliberty2

Thanks for that post - it explains the essence of our problem

16 posted on 03/16/2013 9:29:27 AM PDT by aquila48
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And thanks to you for your response. The volume from which the essay is taken originally was published back in 1987, was out of print for some years, but is now available here. The "endorsements" tab on the web site includes comments from then-President Reagan about the 292-page work, which includes reprints of many founding documents, a section of "Notable Quotes," a Part V section where constitutional scholars trace the ways we had departed from the founding ideas--all of which makes it a valuable source for sharing the importance of those ideas with students, etc.
17 posted on 03/16/2013 11:26:36 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Steely Tom

Steele was never as clear as Carson - especially about giving Christians the be Christians. Far more articulate and powerful than either Steele or Cain who I dearly love.

How about a Carson/Hunt ticket? or Carson/Cruz? Oh, Cruz can’t be pres.....

18 posted on 03/16/2013 2:04:46 PM PDT by Arlis (.)
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