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Swiss tourist gang-raped in central India
AP ^ | Mar. 16 2:16 PM EDT | AP

Posted on 03/16/2013 3:08:32 PM PDT by NoGrayZone

NEW DELHI (AP) — A Swiss woman who was on a cycling trip in central India with her husband has been gang-raped by eight men, police said Saturday. The attack comes three months after the fatal gang-rape of a woman aboard a New Delhi bus outraged Indians.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: diversity; india; raped
Why are people SO stupid?
1 posted on 03/16/2013 3:08:32 PM PDT by NoGrayZone
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To: NoGrayZone

I suspect this wasn’t Hindus who committed the rapes.


2 posted on 03/16/2013 3:11:50 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
Probably the Amish. Damn those creatins!
3 posted on 03/16/2013 3:13:11 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: NoGrayZone

I have a suspicion the perpetrators were not Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, or Jain. It’s just a suspicion.


4 posted on 03/16/2013 3:15:29 PM PDT by Trod Upon (The Second Amendment acknowledges our inherent right to revolt if tyrannized. It ain't about hunting)
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To: NoGrayZone

There’s too much Kama Sutra goin on out there.


5 posted on 03/16/2013 3:20:11 PM PDT by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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To: NoGrayZone

My wife and I love to travel and get off the beaten path...but I cannot imagine why anybody would want to bike and camp in India, anywhere in India, given 1) the warnings and 2) the many other opportunities.


6 posted on 03/16/2013 3:20:39 PM PDT by O6ret
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To: O6ret

women are prey everywhere sadly.....too many people pooh-pah attacks on women and will use every excuse in the book to exonerate the animals....”she shouldn’t have been there” and “she wanted it” and she was not “dressed” properly.....heard them all before...


7 posted on 03/16/2013 3:23:50 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Trod Upon
Not to blame the victims but some research could have had their travel plans only in those areas with the best percentage of the people you mentioned. My guess is they were touring an area with a heavy Muslim population.
8 posted on 03/16/2013 3:26:24 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Madhya Pradesh has about 7% Muslims, and, unlike some places, they are not particularly brazen or conspicuous. Much more likely it’s a macho Hindu thing.


9 posted on 03/16/2013 3:30:59 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Trod Upon; NoGrayZone

Madhaya Pradesh 92% Hindu according to Wikipedia.

I think the gang who raped to death that young woman on the bus were Hindu too.


10 posted on 03/16/2013 3:35:54 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: O6ret

Don’t know why people are so stupid.


11 posted on 03/16/2013 3:54:07 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: NoGrayZone

according to the anti-gun womyn, those guys are in need of a good talking-to, about not doing rape.


12 posted on 03/16/2013 3:58:18 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: heartwood

In India the Hindu’s are very radical.


13 posted on 03/16/2013 4:05:06 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: bigbob

Ah yes, the DO NOT RAPE WOMEN memo. Guess they must have misfiled that one.


14 posted on 03/16/2013 4:06:14 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: NoGrayZone; O6ret
Don’t know why people are so stupid.

Some Western (that includes Swiss) people forget that in many parts of the world, a woman is either (a) someone's woman or (b) anyone's woman. There is no category (c).

15 posted on 03/16/2013 4:15:00 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: thecodont

Stupid women...as well as men. They trust these a-holes, but why?

I just don’t get it!


16 posted on 03/16/2013 4:18:17 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: cherry
women are prey everywhere sadly.....too many people pooh-pah attacks on women and will use every excuse in the book to exonerate the animals....”she shouldn’t have been there” and “she wanted it” and she was not “dressed” properly.....heard them all before...

I understand where you're coming from, and you can rest assured that 99% of Freeper men would have put themselves at great risk to protect this woman had they been there.

BUT...while the rape of a woman touches the heartstrings of so many people, as it should, stating that "women are prey, everywhere" as if men aren't prey, too, is a bit off. Men, by far, receive the lion's share of violent attacks in this world, yet no one grieves for the plight of men. Case in point: there was a one-line throw-away blurb in the article about how the couple was beaten. How much do you want to bet that the women was slapped around a bit, but the husband was beaten to within an inch of his life? And the rape of men in prison is just a running joke in this country. "Oh, have fun with Bubba!" giggle giggle giggle.

One of the reasons that men are not given as much sympathy is that men are held accountable for their own choices, and are expected to take care of themselves. If, for example, a man makes the choice to go into a bad area inadequately armed, and he gets beaten or killed, other men say "He should have been prepared or he shouldn't have gone there." However, if we say the same sort of thing about a woman who did EXACTLY the same thing, suddenly it is "blaming the victim" or some other such emotional outburst.
17 posted on 03/16/2013 4:20:18 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: NoGrayZone

Steubenville, Ohio, rape and India gang rape show India
isn’t so ‘backward’

Indian reaction to the New Delhi gang rape is in many ways more promising than American reactions to US rapes. Take the Steubenville, Ohio, case, which hasn’t generated the same public outrage as the case in India. Indian protesters’ calls for justice are a heartening sign of progress.

By Paul H. Robinson and Shyam Balganesh, The Christian Science Monnitor, Friday, March 15, 2013

Defense attorney Adam Nemann, his client, defendant Trent Mays, 17, and co-defendant 16-year-old Ma’lik Richmond listen to testimony during their trial on rape charges in juvenile court on March 14 in Steubenville, Ohio. Op-ed contributors Paul H. Robinson and Shyam Balganesh write: ‘Certainly the public outrage in [US rape cases] did not rival the mass protests in India’ in response to the December 2012 New Delhi gang rape. Keith Srakocic - AP

Philadelphia, Penn. - The December 2012 gang rape in New Delhi, India, deserves the public condemnation and outrage that it has brought. But much of the commentary on the case has gone beyond this, holding up the case as evidence of India’s larger flaws. The subtext writes India off as a backward and incorrigible third world country, whose primitive norms and lack of rule of law put it outside of modern democracies with more reliable norms and laws.

The unfortunate truth is that India’s reported rape rate, and even the slightly higher rate in New Delhi where the gang rape occurred, is less than that of typical European and American rates. In the days following the attack, scores of protests were held all over India but mostly in the New Delhi region where the attack occurred. Democracy went on the move, as thousands upon thousands of people joined in the calls for justice.

The Indian reaction to the incident is in many ways more gratifying and promising than reactions to American rape cases. Take the Steubenville, Ohio, case, which began trial on Wednesday. It has not generated nearly as much public outrage as the case in India. If there is a larger lesson that the gang rape and the public outcry that followed teach us about India, it is one of promise and hope, not alienation and despair.

But commentators have painted a different picture....

Page 1:

http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/2013/0315/Steubenville-Ohio-rape-and-India-gang-rape-show-India-isn-t-so-backward

Page 2:

http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/2013/0315/Steubenville-Ohio-rape-and-India-gang-rape-show-India-isn-t-so-backward/(page)/2


18 posted on 03/16/2013 4:24:23 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: NoGrayZone
Police detained 13 men and questioned them

Aren't women advised to carry rape whistles in India for self protection?

19 posted on 03/16/2013 4:31:59 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: heartwood
There have been a couple of very high profile rape cases in India, recently. That has motivated the silent majority to take to the streets to protest, and put the legislature, the judiciary, and law enforcement to notice that they better change their attitudes get tough on this crime. After the bus rape, the politicians and the law enforcement barely got away by the skin of their teeth because emotions were running very high and large scale violence was seething beneath a very thin veneer of civil protests. It would not have been fun to be on the receiving end of the anger of millions of average indians.

As to the background of the rapists, sin is a human condition that is irrespective of where in the world you live. I personally suspect that an increase in the availability of pornography is to blame for more incidents of this nature.

20 posted on 03/16/2013 4:47:23 PM PDT by Moorings
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To: bigbob

If she had a double barrel shotgun with her she could have fired it into the air!


21 posted on 03/16/2013 5:34:07 PM PDT by Lockbar (Quality Factory Loaded Ammunition ------- The New Gold)
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To: BerryDingle
Don't forget the sizzors!
22 posted on 03/16/2013 5:51:29 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: fr_freak

Well said. I am a woman, and I agree.


23 posted on 03/16/2013 6:03:26 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: O6ret

> ..but I cannot imagine why anybody would want to bike and camp in India, anywhere in India...

And definitely not in the U.S., right? Please see:

This list[5] indicates the number of, and per capita cases of recorded rape. It does not include cases of rape which go unreported, or which are not recorded.[6] Nor does it specify whether recorded means reported, brought to trial, or convicted. Nor does it take the different definition of rape around the world into account.

Showing latest available data. Rank Countries Amount (top to bottom)

1 United States: 95,136
2 South Africa: 52,425
3 Canada: 24,350
4 Australia: 15,630
5 India: 15,468
6 Mexico: 14,373
7 United Kingdom: 13,395
8 Germany: 8,615
9 France: 8,458
10 Russia: 6,978
[...]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics


24 posted on 03/16/2013 6:07:02 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: cherry

Women ARE prey everywhere. It isn’t trying to exonerate the men who do it to say that women should be aware of this and take steps to avoid being insuch a situation if they can.

Although I will concede that some people will try to do so in this fashion.

My question is: what the heck to people want to do visiting 3rd world heckholes all the time? Beats me.


25 posted on 03/16/2013 6:26:15 PM PDT by chesley (Vast deserts of political ignorance makes liberalism possible - James Lewis)
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To: NoGrayZone
Where is someone like Bishnu Shrestha when you need him.
“Fighting the enemy in battle is my duty as a soldier. Taking on the thugs on the train was my duty as a human being.”

http://www.badassoftheweek.com/index.cgi?id=97426290

26 posted on 03/16/2013 7:07:33 PM PDT by Polynikes (Hakkaa Palle)
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To: NoGrayZone

What is UP with Indian men? They raped an innocent bus passenger to death. They raped this woman. You can’t go to a gas station in NYC without one of them coming on to you. Freaks.


27 posted on 03/16/2013 8:33:31 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: EinNYC

Significantly higher numbers of rapes occur in America than in India, both on an absolute, AND on a per-capita basis. Even the outrage against rape is significantly mellower in the US than in India. That bus rape incident got the country coming to a halt with mass protests everywhere, and new laws calling for the death penalty for rapists have been imposed. What happened with the Steubenville rape case here? Or that other gang-rape incident in Texas yesterday? Slowly petering out to general public amnesia.

See the posts and comments by others upthread, there’s a good deal of information made available by other Freepers.


28 posted on 03/16/2013 9:35:26 PM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: EinNYC

You got jumped by freaky Indians at NYC gas station?


29 posted on 03/17/2013 6:58:05 PM PDT by ravager (I)
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