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Louisville Claims Top Overall Seed (In NCAA Tournament)
ESPN.go.com ^ | March 18, 2013 | AP

Posted on 03/18/2013 5:01:36 AM PDT by RonPaulLives

Louisville is the top seed in the NCAA tournament after a topsy-turvy season in college basketball, capped by another round of upsets over the weekend.

That other team from the Bluegrass State won't even get a chance to defend its national title.

While the Big East champion Cardinals surged to the top of the 68-team bracket released Sunday, joined by fellow No. 1 seeds Kansas, Indiana and Gonzaga, the school that won it all a year ago was left out of the field. Kentucky was hoping the committee would overlook a dismal performance in the Southeastern Conference tournament, but the Wildcats had to settle for a spot in the second-tier National Invitation Tournament.

"You've got to earn it each and every year," said Mike Bobinski, the Xavier athletic director who chaired the selection committee.

As if that's not bad enough for Kentucky fans, Louisville (29-5) gets to rub a little more salt in its rival's wounds by opening the tournament about 75 miles from campus on Kentucky's home court, Rupp Arena in Lexington. The Cardinals will face either Liberty or North Carolina State in a second-round game Thursday. Kentucky plays an NIT game Tuesday -- on the road because Rupp is taken for the NCAAs -- at Robert Morris.

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I didn't see another NCAA basketball tourney thread yet. And I couldn't help myself, since my alma mater (the University of Louisville) earned the # 1 seed overall, and that other school in the state, the "defending champions," did not make the tournament.
1 posted on 03/18/2013 5:01:36 AM PDT by RonPaulLives
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To: RonPaulLives

This was a weak year for basketball...hence, not the interest of other years when the brackets were stronger.


2 posted on 03/18/2013 5:08:14 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: RonPaulLives

Congratulations (gulp!) to your Cards. (Oh my, how difficult that is to wish congrats to a Cards fan - haha) However, my March Madness interest isn’t quite the same, as it typically each year, as my team didn’t quite make it in this year (very rare!) - as I bleed blue. My team - the #1 National Champions of 2012 - Kentucky Wildcats -didn’t even “show up” this year. (sigh) But, we’ll be back, next year - watch out!!


3 posted on 03/18/2013 5:14:27 AM PDT by MasonGal
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To: txrefugee
Weak year? Many handicappers and NCAA committee members (including committee chair Mike Bobinski) say this may be one of the best tournaments ever.

4 posted on 03/18/2013 5:14:54 AM PDT by RonPaulLives (I won't be a neo-pawn in the game.)
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To: MikeD; OKIEDOC; Zuben Elgenubi; GOP_Raider; dfwgator; Man50D; Mr. Jeeves; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

5 posted on 03/18/2013 5:19:39 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz is my adoptive Senator, Rand Paul for President in 2016)
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To: MasonGal
I feel your pain. On the merits, they did not deserve to get in. However, even with Noel out, they still have so much talent that if they could ever get their act together, they have the potential to put together a 3-4 game run in the tourney. That's the problem with one-and-dones..On the other hand, I must rejoice, because it means that

Ashley Judd is depressed!!

FYI..there was much speculation that UK would get in, simply because Wildcat fans travel. Attendance at some of the first round games has been pathetic recently, so some thought the committee might put them through. Personally, had they got in, they'd be in one of the first round play-in games, and that would somehow be beneath Kentucky, given their pedigree...and imagine if they actually went and LOST a play-in game?..Nope, it's better that they're out..

6 posted on 03/18/2013 5:26:35 AM PDT by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: txrefugee

ABD (Anybody But Dook)


7 posted on 03/18/2013 5:26:43 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: RonPaulLives

I have no problem with Louisville as #1 seed. They earned it, winning both the Big East regular season and tournament. What’s ironic is that because the committee no longer uses the “S” curve, your Cards are in what is by far the toughest bracket. They’d have been far better off getting seeded 2,3, or even 4..


8 posted on 03/18/2013 5:29:41 AM PDT by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: MasonGal; RonPaulLives

I thought they put entirely too much emphasis on Noel, and the lamentations of woe at his injury. Got to be a demoralizing thing for the rest of the team.

It’s all coming off the heels of last years spectacular lineup...give ‘em some time, the n00bs will find their cohesion.


9 posted on 03/18/2013 5:33:03 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no foolin' around.")
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To: RonPaulLives

I think what they are saying is it is one of the most competitive/balanced years ever hence one of the best. The teams at the top are pretty much equal, say the first 12 or so. The drop off to between 12 and 37 is not all that much either so it looks as if any team inside the 10 seeds has a shot to take it all although history says otherwise. Upsets will come from those above the 9 too. So, with the exception of the 16 seeds, who play the 1s out of the box, any team could go to the round of 32 and not be a complete shock. Interestingly, the point production seems down this year too, so games will be closer as the focus seems to be on defense, or perhaps not many great offensive players?. Cannot wait for the shot to begin.


10 posted on 03/18/2013 5:35:50 AM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: RonPaulLives
I just have to do this...

VEE CEE YOU! VEE CEE YOU! VEE CEE YOU!

Ok, I feel better now...

5.56mm

11 posted on 03/18/2013 5:40:56 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: RonPaulLives

It would not surprise me that Louisville could end up taking it all, including winning the championship this year. At least the Big East will be able to end on a good note.

The only other team I see winning it all, and it is a “suprise” team that could do the very same is Gonzaga.


12 posted on 03/18/2013 5:41:26 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: ken5050

I think you are exactly right. It would have been just as good for us to get a # 2 seed this particular season. We are working on our “revenge tour” now: We avenged losses to Villanova, Notre Dame and Syracuse in the Big East tournament. Now it would be complete if we meet and defeat Duke in the elite eight round.


13 posted on 03/18/2013 5:52:40 AM PDT by RonPaulLives (I won't be a neo-pawn in the game.)
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To: ken5050

I actually think Louisville has one of the easier brackets. If you can get past the names on the uniforms, Duke and Michigan State have not impressed me at all. Saint Louis has been impressive lately, but I don’t know if they have enough to get past UL.


14 posted on 03/18/2013 5:52:50 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: RonPaulLives

Lets Go Orange!


15 posted on 03/18/2013 5:53:23 AM PDT by John 3_19-21 ("as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.")
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To: RonPaulLives

I would be more surprised if Duke gets that far.


16 posted on 03/18/2013 5:54:51 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: RonPaulLives

I agree. There is no stand out dominate team this year. Any one of 10 teams could potentially win this year.


17 posted on 03/18/2013 5:56:28 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: MasonGal
Ya can't win tournaments year after year with one and done’s. Snake Cal got what he deserved, but I feel bad for the fans.
18 posted on 03/18/2013 5:59:24 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in thee shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadows of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Coldwater Creek

badly


19 posted on 03/18/2013 6:00:10 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in thee shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadows of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: M Kehoe
Allow me to help you out here:

VEE CEE YOU! VEE CEE YOU! VEE CEE YOU!

I was watching ESPN last night, and one of the analysts (Jay Bilas?) picks them for the Final Four!

20 posted on 03/18/2013 6:01:02 AM PDT by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: Biggirl
The only other team I see winning it all, and it is a “suprise” team that could do the very same is Gonzaga.

I'm so proud of the young men that represent my alma mater. My youngest son & I took the opportunity to see them play (and narrowly defeated) Oklahohma State in Stillwater.

There was one thing that jumped out at me after the game: they're a group of the most down-to-earth men I've ever seen. They enjoyed taking pictures with a few of the fans that hung around to greet them after the game. The first one's my son & Kelly Olynyk, followed by Elias Harris.

I know we haven't played Kansas (yet), but we're 5-0 against the Big 12 so far this year. I like our chances...if you focus too much on Kelly, Elias will make you pay. Pangos and Bell are genuine 3 point threats, and Mike Hart will drive the opponent crazy with his offensive rebounding and defensive skills. Our bench is deep, and we've been tested at very tough venues.

21 posted on 03/18/2013 6:03:17 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: RonPaulLives

I agree. So many top rated teams have been knocked off by none rated ones. The little guys might actually make this tournament interesting.


22 posted on 03/18/2013 6:03:35 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in thee shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadows of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: ken5050

Traveling fans? Maybe that is the reason the my team (Memphis) actually got the seed that they deserve.


23 posted on 03/18/2013 6:07:54 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in thee shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadows of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: ken5050
Good morning sir. Good to see your moniker.

I was watching ESPN last night, and one of the analysts (Jay Bilas?) picks them for the Final Four!

IIRC, Bilas was the one two years ago that stated VCU shouldn't be in the Big Dance [They lost to Butler in the Final Four]. He is just hedging his bet.

Fifty percent chance of thunder storms today...

5.56mm

24 posted on 03/18/2013 6:09:19 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: woodbutcher1963
There is no stand out dominate team this year. Any one of 10 teams could potentially win this year.

Just 10? I think you could make a case for any of the top 4 seeds in each bracket. After watching some of the analysis last night, I'm really disliking the B1G, Big-10 whatever the heck you want to call it.

I know, my Zags lost to Illinois at home earlier in the year, but we've been playing pretty good ball the last 3 months, with the exception of the last 5 seconds at Butler. That loss may have helped the team forge its identity, drew them closer together. We've gone 14-0 since that point.

Not to be repetitive, but we're also 5-0 against the Big 12.

25 posted on 03/18/2013 6:09:24 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: RonPaulLives

My alma mater Ohio State has avenged every loss thus far this season except for their loss at Duke and against Kansas at home (and we lost to Kansas last year in the Final Four). We’ve won 8 games in a row including 2 wins against Michigan State and 1 win against Indiana in Bloomington.

The 2 hottest teams going into the NCAA tourney are Louisville and Ohio State. Look for them to make it to Atlanta.


26 posted on 03/18/2013 6:11:09 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great natiorn is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: RonPaulLives

The OP is from Kentucky...since they bombed this year to him it’s a very weak season.


27 posted on 03/18/2013 6:34:24 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Night Hides Not

I would think the winner will come out of the Big East. That is the strongest division this year.

Of couse, I am biased. I went to SU.

I will be happy as long as Georgetown does not win.


28 posted on 03/18/2013 6:36:33 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Hotlanta Mike
The 2 hottest teams going into the NCAA tourney are Louisville and Ohio State. Look for them to make it to Atlanta.

The Zags are riding a 14 game winning streak...not discounting UL & OSU.

29 posted on 03/18/2013 6:42:38 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: RonPaulLives

So how long will it take for the Gators to choke this year?


30 posted on 03/18/2013 6:42:48 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: woodbutcher1963
Big East, Big 10 are beastly conferences this year. However, I'm quietly confident about my Zags. For the first time in years, I feel like we're peaking in time for the Dance.

I'll bet our guys hope to get another shot at Ohio State. We acquitted ourselves well in last year's tournament, and we don't have any freshmen in our 7-10 man rotation.

31 posted on 03/18/2013 6:47:58 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
I thought they put entirely too much emphasis on Noel, and the lamentations of woe at his injury.

Are you kidding? The guy WAS going to be the #1 pick in the NBA draft... he's STILL probably be a top 5 pick. He was a FORCE on the inside, especially on defense. And the scary part is: he was still IMPROVING almost every game.

WITH Noel, UK was an interesting team... still not "great", by any stretch... but, scary, and getting better. And they clearly WOULD have made the tournament.

Without Noel?? They're still decent... until Caulley-Stein goes out with foul trouble.... Then, they become awful.

Not many teams in the country could lose a player like Noel without being hurt... for Kentucky? His loss was devastating.

32 posted on 03/18/2013 6:50:56 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them)
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To: Night Hides Not
I'll bet our guys hope to get another shot at Ohio State. We acquitted ourselves well in last year's tournament, and we don't have any freshmen in our 7-10 man rotation.

Slight correction...Karnowski (7'0", 300+ lbs) is a freshman. That is one big boy...I need to track down the photo I snapped of him & my son. He'll give us some productive minutes if we get in foul trouble.

He'll be the 4th big in the rotation, behind Sam Dower. Currently the 4/5 rotation is Harris/Olynyk/Dower, while the 1-3 rotation is Pangos/Bell/Hart/Stockton/Barham.

33 posted on 03/18/2013 6:55:15 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: RonPaulLives

I firmly believe, UofL wouuld have won LAST year, if Kentucky didn’t have the “superstar” lineup....

The Cards, IMO, are actually BETTER this year. The defense is just as strong, but, their offense is much improved.

Most real UK fans could never bring themselves to cheer for the Cards... but, we’re from Texas. I only became a UK fan when I started writing them checks for my sons’ education.

I have no problem cheering for the home town team. :-)


34 posted on 03/18/2013 6:57:43 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them)
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To: Night Hides Not

I was at that Gonzaga v. OSU game, too. I kept hoping my Cowboys would get it done but they still hadn’t gelled the way they did later in the season to defeat KU. However, I don’t begrudge Gonzaga anything as I always enjoy watching them. I first got to see them in person in Las Vegas at a holiday tournament where the Cowboys were also playing against another team. It was a good night of basketball and I was able to return to the casino sports book to collect winnings on all three games I had bet that evening. I took the over on the Gonzaga game, the Cowboys laying the points, and whoever OU played that night. It was the only time I bet in a sports book.


35 posted on 03/18/2013 7:18:20 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

I knew you were from Texas, so I wondered how you became an UK fan, :>


36 posted on 03/18/2013 7:23:30 AM PDT by RonPaulLives (I won't be a neo-pawn in the game.)
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To: T-Bird45
Y'all made a LOT of noise for a game that wasn't sold out (NY's Eve). I can see why very few teams beat you at home.

Unlike some places I've been, your fans were great, and we had some good natured kibbitzing during the game. Hopefully, Marcus Smart will hang around for one more year, but I suspect that he and Kelly Olynyk will be lottery picks.

37 posted on 03/18/2013 7:28:22 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

Louisville better hope they don’t have a night where the officials call the game tighter than normal. UL fouls more than any team in the NCAA with their press, they just don’t get called for it. One game with things called right and they will be in trouble.


38 posted on 03/18/2013 7:40:58 AM PDT by TruBluKentuckian
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To: TruBluKentuckian
Louisville better hope they don’t have a night where the officials call the game tighter than normal.

That's true, but... Russ Smith is like an insurance policy against that. If the refs are calling it TIGHT, you can be sure Russ will have the other team in foul trouble too!

If they only call it TIGHT on one end?? Well, most teams would be in trouble...

39 posted on 03/18/2013 7:49:35 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them)
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To: RonPaulLives
Beat Kansas! Go Cards! WESTERN KENTUCKY UNIVERSITY HILLTOPPERS: 45 conference championships, third-most in NCAA history. 41 seasons with 20+ wins, sixth-most in NCAA history. 38 All-Americans, 37 national post-season appearances, 23 NCAA Tournament berths. 14th in NCAA history in all-time wins. 8th in NCAA history in all-time winning percentage.
40 posted on 03/18/2013 7:54:03 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: RonPaulLives
I knew you were from Texas, so I wondered how you became an UK fan, :>

Yea... writing a series of $6,000 or sometimes $13,000 checks tends to make you think you SHOULD be a fan. :-( I do have some shirts and caps now.. and, I watch pretty much every UK game.

Funny thing is.... when we first moved here, 12 years ago, we kinda were more Cardinal fans. Now, my wife really DOESN'T like the Cards... But, I do.

But then, I was NOT a UK fan before moving here.. in fact, I liked.... hmnnnn... not sure I should say this on a public forum..... oh, what the hell DUKE!!!!

But, I got my mind right now... HATE Coach K!!!!! ;-)

41 posted on 03/18/2013 7:54:49 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them)
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To: WKUHilltopper

You forgot to mention the most famous, most bizarre mascot!


42 posted on 03/18/2013 7:55:58 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them)
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To: TruBluKentuckian

Bwahahaha! Good one, although not original; I have heard that a few times from disgruntled, bitter UK fans. I will agree that the NCAA tournament is called a lot closer than the Big East tournament. But to say that U of L commits “more fouls than any other team, and don’t get called for it” is absurd.


43 posted on 03/18/2013 7:56:22 AM PDT by RonPaulLives (I won't be a neo-pawn in the game.)
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To: T-Bird45
I was able to return to the casino sports book to collect winnings on all three games I had bet that evening
....
It was the only time I bet in a sports book.

Quit while you're ahead.... I hit a 4-team parlay in baseball the first bet I ever made in a sportbook... won $>750.

That was 27 years ago... I'm STILL trying to duplicate it. :-(

44 posted on 03/18/2013 8:00:22 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them)
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To: TruBluKentuckian; RonPaulLives

LAST YEAR, Louisville made the final four with a team scoring the FEWEST PPG of any team since the beginning of the expanded tourney... That’s how suffocating their defense is...

This year’s team is just as good on defense, but can actually score a little too. They’re on a roll.

I just wish they hadn’t finished so strong... now, EVERYBODY is expecting them to win it all... I’v been expecting it since early January.. when, I bet $50 on them in Vegas. :-)


45 posted on 03/18/2013 8:04:41 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them)
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To: WKUHilltopper

ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK! GO KU.......... Good luck to you in your bracket. We have the homecourt advantage at the Sprint Center. It will be a Crimson & Blue day in KC.


46 posted on 03/18/2013 8:20:44 AM PDT by ncfool (Obama's aMeriKa 2012 can we make it until 2016?)
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To: RonPaulLives
I wonder if the Louisville players believe in prayer. As in “Please lord, don't let Obama pick us to win in his brackets.”
47 posted on 03/18/2013 8:32:28 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: Night Hides Not

The Zags are riding a 14 game winning streak...not discounting UL & OSU.


During this Zag winning streak the only team they beat that made the tourney is St. Mary’s (beat them 2 times) which has to play a play in game.


48 posted on 03/18/2013 8:35:52 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great natiorn is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
During this Zag winning streak the only team they beat that made the tourney is St. Mary’s (beat them 2 times) which has to play a play in game.

Hopefully we'll play you (again) in the Elite Eight. Last year's game was great, and our guys want another shot at you.

No doubt Big 10 is tougher than the WCC, but you've got a few weak sisters yourself to feast upon: Nebraska, Penn State, Northwestern...and Purdue wasn't so hot, either.

With an undergraduate enrollment of nearly 50,000, one would think that THE Ohio State University could find 10 good ballplayers. ;)

49 posted on 03/18/2013 9:10:03 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: Night Hides Not

With an undergraduate enrollment of nearly 50,000, one would think that THE Ohio State University could find 10 good ballplayers. ;)


Certainly the school can recruit quality players, but it also loses players to Big Ten rivals (Trey Burke @ Michigan and Adrian Payne @ Michigan St are both from Ohio). This year’s team is less talented offensively than last year’s squad, which reflects well on the job that Coach Thad Motta has done navigating this season.

If you take his success at OSU together what he accomplished at Butler and Xavier, plus the assistant coaches who have worked under him who have since moved on to become head coaches, he has acquitted himself very well among his peers.


50 posted on 03/18/2013 9:55:19 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great natiorn is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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