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Killing babies no different from abortion, experts say
Telegraph ^ | 3/18/13 | Stephen Adams

Posted on 03/18/2013 11:56:36 AM PDT by SMCC1

"Parents should be allowed to have their newborn babies killed because they are “morally irrelevant” and ending their lives is no different to abortion, a group of medical ethicists linked to Oxford University has argued."

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Science; Society
KEYWORDS: abortion; agenda21; culture; davos; deathpanels; ethicists; eugenics; gates; infanticide; johnholdren; liberals; morality; nwo; obamacare; prolife; sick
So logically, abortion should be illegal, right? Nope, instead they argue FOR infanticide. Sick.
1 posted on 03/18/2013 11:56:36 AM PDT by SMCC1
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To: SMCC1
Right.
So do they have to have a doctor kill them, or can they just starve them to death - would that be OK, too?
As long as the end-result is a dead baby. I guess they could drag it behind the car.....

So when you throw out any moral absolutes - you get....

2 posted on 03/18/2013 12:01:08 PM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: SMCC1
We have been here before...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQvsf2MUKRQ


3 posted on 03/18/2013 12:01:45 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: SMCC1

“Morally irrelevant” babies? Sounds more like MORALLY BANKRUPT adults to me!


4 posted on 03/18/2013 12:02:00 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: SMCC1

I see certain medical ethicists as “morally irrelevant.” Shall we kill them too?


5 posted on 03/18/2013 12:02:01 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: SMCC1

Recall a guy at Princeton from years ago - found this after a search:

There is some trivia about Princeton University that many people are not aware of. When I ask someone, “Did you know that Princeton University has helped to support infanticide and bestiality for the past 14 years?” - there is usually a look of disbelief. Many Americans have a difficult time accepting the fact that a practicing professor at Princeton University, Peter Singer, would be able to promote such activities as infanticide and zoophilia, also known as bestiality, there at that institution.


6 posted on 03/18/2013 12:04:50 PM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: SMCC1

Academically verified fiends.


7 posted on 03/18/2013 12:05:10 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: SMCC1
Looks like they swerved into the truth, as Rush would say.
8 posted on 03/18/2013 12:07:23 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: SMCC1

Has the world gone mad? The good news is that thousands lined up to buy ammo at Sacramento gun show.


9 posted on 03/18/2013 12:07:46 PM PDT by Nomedeplume
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To: SMCC1

Has the world gone mad? The good news is that thousands lined up to buy ammo at Sacramento gun show.


10 posted on 03/18/2013 12:07:46 PM PDT by Nomedeplume
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To: SMCC1

The crap these supposedly “educated” people spew from their mouths is stunning.


11 posted on 03/18/2013 12:08:07 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: 21twelve

A quote from Singer. Scary last sentence.

Opponents of abortion ought to welcome articles arguing that there is no real difference of moral status between the fetus and the newborn, for they have been arguing that themselves for many years. Their problem, apparently, is that most of them do not know how to argue against anyone who agrees with them that the fetus and newborn infant have the same moral status, but then denies that merely existing as an innocent living human being is enough to give a being a right to life.


12 posted on 03/18/2013 12:08:20 PM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: SMCC1

Killing liberals is morally irrelevant.

Just following the progressive path here...


13 posted on 03/18/2013 12:08:35 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: SMCC1

yep, they argue in favor of infanticide


14 posted on 03/18/2013 12:09:32 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: SMCC1

“What these young colleagues are spelling out is what we (knew) would be the inevitable end point of a road that ethical philosophers in the States and Australia have all been treading for a long time and there is certainly nothing new.”

Referring to the term “after-birth abortion”, Dr Stammers added: “This is just verbal manipulation that is not philosophy. I might refer to abortion henceforth as antenatal infanticide.”

Well, at least now they are fully out in the open.


15 posted on 03/18/2013 12:09:46 PM PDT by paterfamilias
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

There are those folks out there [from both sides of the political spectrum] who snicker at that remark.

“We don’t need (or want) any stinkin morals”.


16 posted on 03/18/2013 12:10:42 PM PDT by WCH
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To: SMCC1

Not surprise at all.
Abortion leads to euthanasia and infanticide. Pretty soon, “right to die” will become “duty to die.” It will come even faster with socialized medicine.


17 posted on 03/18/2013 12:14:07 PM PDT by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: Little Ray
Pretty soon, “right to die” will become “duty to die.”

You got that right.

18 posted on 03/18/2013 12:15:29 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SMCC1

Slippery slope. Human life is being devalued. Then Old people will be killed because they are no longer useful. The shadow of tyranny.


19 posted on 03/18/2013 12:18:38 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: SMCC1

THey’re right about one thing, killing babies and abortion are equal....equally abhorrent.


20 posted on 03/18/2013 12:20:06 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: SMCC1

It was only a matter of time.


21 posted on 03/18/2013 12:21:36 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: SMCC1

I’m suddenly okay with killing “medical ethicist”. *spits*


22 posted on 03/18/2013 12:23:05 PM PDT by MissTed ( Private Tagline - Do Not Read!)
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To: SMCC1

At least they are following their ideology to its logically consistent outcome. Doesn’t end there, however, because if a one week old baby is ok to kill, how about a one month old, or a one year old? How about a ten year old?

If the baby has no inherent moral value, then when does it get one? I don’t see any special event granting such status that takes place in our lives, so if they were really consistent, then they would favor killing people at any time, not just killing children.


23 posted on 03/18/2013 12:23:59 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: SMCC1

So the Nazis won the Second World War. Who knew? That’s what we have become.


24 posted on 03/18/2013 12:26:16 PM PDT by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: 21twelve
Peter Singer: Animal 'Rights' Zealot: Christianity Harmful; Infanticide OK
25 posted on 03/18/2013 12:28:20 PM PDT by Heartlander (Scientists animated by the purpose of proving that they are purposeless are interesting to study)
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To: SMCC1
To make a sarcastic point, I would often say “Parents should be able to abort a fetus up to its 18th birthday.”

Apparently, my point would not longer be sarcastic.

26 posted on 03/18/2013 12:29:50 PM PDT by Makana
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To: PGR88
I would say yes but then again, I'm not a moral ethicist ~ quite possibly we'd be better off without them though ~ there's this technique they use in Nederland where they pick them off the street and put them on a rock, then intubate them and slowly starve and dehydrate them until they stop snoring.

No sense letting such a useful tool get wasted on the elderly infirm!

27 posted on 03/18/2013 12:37:24 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SMCC1

I agree on the underlying point. Infanticide is infanticide in or out of the womb.

Christians have made that very point, albiet against abortion. I’m not surprised, yet still sickened, that after decrying this very assertion for decades, the Left is now accepting it, not to protect the unborn, but to kill those infants that got away.


28 posted on 03/18/2013 12:38:34 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SampleMan

The leftwingtards have several mottos ~ one of them is “let none escape”.


29 posted on 03/18/2013 12:40:42 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SMCC1

Clubbing baby seals... ILLEGAL.
Killing babies... AOK.

Don’t you just looooove the minds of socialist liberal pinko moonbats?


30 posted on 03/18/2013 12:47:58 PM PDT by Up Yours Marxists
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To: SMCC1
The FFs started our endeavor with a Covenant's seal of Approval. We are what we are, good and bad, and have struggled to hold up our end of the bargain and grow the business, so it is fortunate we signed on with the most patient boss there can be for our ISO.

We've had a good run, but when the business gets passed along from heirs to heirs, sometime we forget what carried our startup to the top, along with those business basics that were the foundation of our success.

We neglected building and grounds maintenance and fired pest control and it's been downhill ever since. Feedback from the top was being ignored...I dunno, I think Row v Wade was what broke the final straw holding back the harbingers. And, we never did enough to close the door, but just gave in and went with it instead.

Looking around at the mess, I'd like to close that door ASAP, before the next ugly things this way comes through. Get back with the original pest control company and their solid gold guarantee. Fix the cracks in the foundation, clean up the books and get back on the business plan. We might survive the bad economy.

Instead, we will legalize gay marriage.

I'm sure some will be happy with this bold new marketing plan for "fixing" the building problems with a fresh coat of colorful paint bought on sale. Might even work some short term magic on that bottom line.

None the less, the contract is very clear about this and I'm predicting a nasty breakup and/or bankruptcy.

31 posted on 03/18/2013 12:52:06 PM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: SMCC1
Both a fetus and a newborn certainly are human beings and potential persons, but neither is a ‘person’ in the sense of ‘subject of a moral right to life’

someone should ask these same folks if they think killing innocent baby animals like dogs, cats, lambs, calves, horses, ....... is okay or is it just baby humans that they think are okay to kill.

32 posted on 03/18/2013 1:12:50 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: SMCC1
Well,if there's a silver lining here I can report that last November a ballot question allowing "assisted suicide" was voted down IN MASSACHUSETTS! I thought for sure it would pass...but,thankfully,I was wrong.
33 posted on 03/18/2013 1:22:20 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("Progressives" toss the word "racist" around like chimps toss their feces)
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To: SMCC1

Abortion is just anonymous killing.


34 posted on 03/18/2013 1:59:53 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

They are already killing old and handicapped people in some Britian hospitals. They withhold food and water.

When a government defines and then targets a group of people for death, it is called genocide. Liberals intend to do it here to the boomer generation. But before they get around to killing them via denying health care, they will rob their retirement savings.

That is why you hear them spitting out “old white men” all the time. They are dehumanizing old white people to prepare the public to not have mercy for the group of Americans they are fixing to kill. They don’t want those oldsters armed.


35 posted on 03/18/2013 4:37:13 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SMCC1

I was waiting for this day...can’t say I’m surprised. I think they’ll settle on being allowed to kill kids up to the age (stage) when a kid understands the difference between life and death.

...at least that’s where they’re heading.


36 posted on 03/18/2013 6:44:11 PM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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