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New Mosin-Nagant stocks finally available for pre-order!
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Posted on 03/19/2013 4:24:12 PM PDT by TexasBarak

Just went and checked ProMag's site, and they have their new synthetic Mosin-Nagant stocks available for pre-order. Adjustable everything, and (drum roll please)- 10 round removable magazines! Been waiting for this one for awhile!


TOPICS: Hobbies; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; mosinnagant; secondamendment
Hurry up and send me my new stock!
1 posted on 03/19/2013 4:24:12 PM PDT by TexasBarak
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To: TexasBarak
Wow all of this stuff is becoming available the same day the Senate squash the AWB.
2 posted on 03/19/2013 4:25:25 PM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz is my adoptive Senator)
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To: TexasBarak

Looks pretty sweet. I may have to sporterize one of ours.


3 posted on 03/19/2013 4:27:34 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: TexasBarak

Serious question from someone totally ignorant of these MNs. Are they actually worth $150? I have read some horror stories. Then again, some seem to like them.

Just askin...


4 posted on 03/19/2013 4:40:21 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: TexasBarak

That stock would scare DiFi, TexasBarak.

SHAME.

I do not know if you know this, but she has stuck her finger in bullet holes.


5 posted on 03/19/2013 4:46:12 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: TexasBarak

Saw these in a Shot Show 2013 vid. Great looking stocks for Mosins.


6 posted on 03/19/2013 4:48:19 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Norm Lenhart

It just depends on much you like your hearing. : )


7 posted on 03/19/2013 4:49:20 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: Norm Lenhart
Mine cost me 89 bucks. And the same for a can of 440 rounds.

As for the value, listen to Crazy Einar:

The Ten Manliest Firearms

8 posted on 03/19/2013 4:56:02 PM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border. I **DARE** you to cross it. . . .)
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To: Norm Lenhart
The Mosin Nagants are ugly and cobby as heck, and entirely unsuitable for conversion to any other caliber like a good Springfield 03 / A3 or a P17, but the couple I've shot have been pretty good shooters. The ammo is cheap, and is a full power round (think 30-06 level of power). I understand (and I know some FReeper will correct me if I'm wrong) that the Russkies still use that caliber for competition shooting, as it's inherently very accurate.

For $150 you kinda can't go wrong. If it sucks, sell it and buy another one.

9 posted on 03/19/2013 5:05:50 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (Buck Off, Bronco Bama)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Depends. I bought mine a year ago at a gun show for 70 bucks. The owner let me field strip it, and look the entire thing over. I bought it, and it has been an amazing weapon.

Another guy in my unit bought one, and the barrel was warped so badly that it was almost cartoonish in how it shot. They are literally hit or miss, but you can alleviate that by really looking the weapon down before purchase.

First of all, the going price as of a year ago was 70 to 80 bucks. I don’t know if the current climate warrants a doublging of price to 150, though.

As for the rifle, it really depends on what you want. The Mosin in scopable, but it’s a pain. You’ll have to buy a GOOD mount, and either drill and tap it or have a gunsmith do it for you. I used a Rock Solid Industries Mount (which is what is in the advertisement’s picture, I belive), and did it myself. Most people have the gunsmith do it. So you’re looking at between 100 and 250 bucks to even put a scope on a the weapon. You’ll also need a downturned bolt handle. The weld on ones are garbage, pay the $75 bucks for one. Otherwise, your handle won’t be able to go all the way up due to the optics. If you use iron sights instead of a scope, you’re going to want to get rid of the crappy notch and blade deal, and invest in a peep sight (like Mojo, for example). So that’s some extra cash, if you chose not to add a scope. Then, you’ll probably want to change the stock. This stock looks nice, and has detachable mags. I use a cheap (~$75) Monte Carlo style synthetic stock, which came with a front swivel for bipods (this one doesn’t appear to have that option), but you are stuck with the 5 round box magazine (which I am fine with). So you’ll probably drop several hundred dollars getting your weapon to its max potential, and that’s not even factoring in the money you drop on optics. But if you start with a $75 dollar rifle like I did, and do most of it yourself, you’ll be surprised just how much of a shooter you can make with very little work.

Furthermore, you can buy dirt cheap, corrosive ammo for Mosins, which is nice. Not too hard to spray some Windex with ammonia down the barrel after shooting to neutralize the acids. I was buying 7.62x54R at gun shows for about 70 bucks for a tin of 440 rounds 2 years ago. I’m sure it’s gone up, but that’s still a lot of ammo for very little expenditure.

A couple of asides. A lot of Mosins you buy will be covered in Cosmoline. Cosmoline is you friend, because it preserves rifles. But you will curse it’s name, when you literally spend DAYS getting it off your rifle. Be prepared. I used mineral spirits and a heat gun for over a week. You WILL need the little toolkit that comes with it. Although you can disassemble the bolt without it, the measuring tool is SUCH a time saver when adjusting the firing pin.

All in all, I absolutely LOVE shooting my Mosin. I’m an Eastern Bloc collector with multiple Commie guns, and the Mosin is one of my favorites. As stated, I dropped it into a Monte Carlo stock, and attached a pivoting bipod. I used a RSI scope mount, and mounted a Nikon Prostaff 3-9X40mm scope with Angle-loc scoperings. I then bedded the stock. I may thread the barrel and add a muzzle brake, but that will only be after I return from my deployment and have the time. I can consistently reach out to a man-sized target at 400 yards and routinely shoot nice groups. Honestly, I could probably take it out to 800 and still hit the target. There are youtube videos of a dude shooting the Mosin at a steel target at 1,000, but this is a stretch for the weapon. You will be hit or miss, so I would buy at a gun show or store so that I could completely disassemble the weapon and check EVERYTHING. If you get a good weapon, and it’s a shooter, you can really turn it into something really nice for less than a grand (counting the rifle, all accessories, and the optics).


10 posted on 03/19/2013 5:07:35 PM PDT by The Black Knight (What would John Rambo do?)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Serious question from someone totally ignorant of these MNs. Are they actually worth $150? I have read some horror stories. Then again, some seem to like them.

It all depends on which end of the barrel you are at. I don't own such a rifle, but those $150 buy you a lot of muzzle energy. A 7.62×54 cartridge is quite powerful - too powerful for most soldiers in the 20th century, actually. But snipers used it very effectively.

(Mosin–Nagant M91/30 PU Sniper model shown.)

11 posted on 03/19/2013 5:12:40 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: Norm Lenhart
Are they actually worth $150?

Under $100 is a better price.

12 posted on 03/19/2013 5:13:57 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: TexasBarak; humblegunner

SWEET. Ping HG

I’m ordering asap.


13 posted on 03/19/2013 5:15:20 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: TexasBarak

14 posted on 03/19/2013 5:16:14 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Norm Lenhart
Stock photo of before, and the beast that I have created...
15 posted on 03/19/2013 5:18:27 PM PDT by The Black Knight (What would John Rambo do?)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Just make sure you head space gauge them and check the barrel good.


16 posted on 03/19/2013 5:19:48 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: The Black Knight

Thanks for the replies everyone. Guess that answers my question ;)


17 posted on 03/19/2013 5:19:52 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
Serious question from someone totally ignorant of these MNs. Are they actually worth $150? I have read some horror stories. Then again, some seem to like them.

They have had longer service lives than any other firearm than I'm aware of. From 1890 until the present. (yep, they are still used in Afghanistan and parts of Africa as well as ceremonial rifles in a few countries). I think some of the horror stories are from just the fact so many were made and stored for decades or not properly cared for. Much of the ammo is very highly corrosive and requires good cleaning. I have four and love them. They are fun to shoot. It is like driving an old classic car with no power steering or brakes. Just all skill.

18 posted on 03/19/2013 5:22:57 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Norm Lenhart
Serious question from someone totally ignorant of these MNs. Are they actually worth $150? I have read some horror stories. Then again, some seem to like them.

Yes. Yes they are! The Mosin-Nagant is inexpensive, yet rugged, reliable, and capable of surprising accuracy. It can also be fed pretty economically with surplus ammo (which is still very available, I believe).

Several companies and individuals make scope mounts for them- I recently found www.mojosights.com, which makes peep sights for a variety of surplus rifles. I intend to mount a set of these on my Mosin, which should give me a rifle capable of hitting a man-sized target out to 400 yards (at least).

19 posted on 03/19/2013 5:24:33 PM PDT by TexasBarak (I aim to misbehave!)
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To: Greysard

Heh! The gal on the right looks a bit like Maggie from The Walking Dead.


20 posted on 03/19/2013 5:24:36 PM PDT by RandallFlagg
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To: TexasBarak
Cool stock but as is is just fine by me


21 posted on 03/19/2013 5:24:41 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: The Black Knight
Similar to my build. (I've since added the same bipod as you have versus the barrel mounted one).

My next steps are probably a bolt job but after seeing the Archangel kit I may have to jump on that for a bit. I'm also doing one for my wife with a custom wooden stock similar to this.


22 posted on 03/19/2013 5:32:41 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring

“It is like driving an old classic car with no power steering or brakes. Just all skill.”

I think you just sold me completely ;)


23 posted on 03/19/2013 5:33:39 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: mnehring

Sweet looking build! For the scope, is that rail one of those single contact point jobs? If so, how do you like it? I tried one, but recoil kept me busy re-adjusting it, lol.


24 posted on 03/19/2013 5:41:17 PM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (The Old White Flag Republicans can go straight to He// and take their pal Obama with them!)
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To: deoetdoctrinae
This one has a single pin but also a block that fits in where the old rear sight went in so it sandwiches in the mount very securely. I can't move it if I tried. (UTG)

I got it from Combat Hunting

Close up image during the build so you can see the way it is sandwiched in there.

The ATI one uses a single pin too but doesn't have that center block to sandwich in the bracket and I've heard it is looser.

25 posted on 03/19/2013 5:53:35 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: TexasBarak; Pan_Yan
Awsome. I need one of these! or maybe 2, 3.......many

Hungarian m44

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26 posted on 03/19/2013 6:10:41 PM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: TexasBarak

Can your shoulder even survive 10 rounds from a Mosin?


27 posted on 03/19/2013 7:06:40 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: TexasBarak

Come to an appleseed. I run a Mosin Shoot at my club. 200, 300 and 600 yds. Prone, slowfire with nothing but the sling for support. Stock rifle, surplus ammo and the blue pistol targets. Appleseed grads always win. http://www.appleseedusa.org


28 posted on 03/19/2013 7:14:35 PM PDT by ebshumidors
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To: TexasBarak

I would like a stock / conversion like that for an ‘03 Springfield. The biggest problem with the MN is the odd cartridge size. Not readily available in the U. S.


29 posted on 03/19/2013 7:39:26 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: reg45
The biggest problem with the MN is the odd cartridge size. Not readily available in the U. S.

Not sure where you are, but I still see it often. Someone just posted on the Texas Forum a shop with spam cans of 440 rounds still going for $80. You can pick up cleaner firing new stuff at Academy and Cabelas for under a buck a round too.

30 posted on 03/19/2013 8:38:46 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring

Dang, and I just blew the Mosin budget on a couple spam cans of Mosey food....


31 posted on 03/20/2013 10:15:32 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: mnehring

is this the one you got?

http://www.combathunting.com/MOSIN_NAGANT-Mosin_Nagant_Scope_Mount_Lifetime_Warranty.html

Also, can anyone explain what you have to do to your Mosin in order to use the magazines that go with this Archangel stock?

TIA.


32 posted on 03/20/2013 10:52:41 AM PDT by Yehuda
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To: Yehuda

Remove the standard issue box mag, and that’s easy to do.


33 posted on 03/20/2013 10:56:15 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Yehuda

I’ll tell you about the Archangel kit when i get it. I’m at work right now so can’t access that link to verify. I will check later.


34 posted on 03/20/2013 10:59:42 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring; MHGinTN

Thanks, and can’t wait!


35 posted on 03/20/2013 11:06:43 AM PDT by Yehuda
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To: TexasBarak

(In best ten year old immitation...) “I want one ... and a couple of those ten round mags.”


36 posted on 03/20/2013 11:32:16 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Yehuda

The stock and removeable magazines work together- they will not work with a regular Mosin stock.


37 posted on 03/20/2013 1:57:57 PM PDT by TexasBarak (I aim to misbehave!)
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To: Norm Lenhart




Me and my Mosey.
38 posted on 03/20/2013 2:38:30 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: TexasBarak
Thanks!

Meant to add you to the first reply / question!

Does anyone know if this magazine has any relation to the other one(s) being "developed" that have been on youtube for a while? I think those would work on a standard stock (though the Archangel looks very good!).

39 posted on 03/20/2013 2:42:59 PM PDT by Yehuda
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To: TheOldLady

You know, if that pic was taken in NY, I could be $500 richer right now.....;)

I like hobbyist time things to tinker with but never tinkered with rebuilding guns. I have read a (very) little on them but opinions are all over the map and I haZ a confused.

Your collection of boomsticks does seem quite varied indeed!

Pointy too ;)


40 posted on 03/20/2013 2:43:30 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Forget it, Jake. It’s Ohio...

I like the bayonet. When it’s on the rifle, it’s taller than I am overall.

Older, too. Not much around older than I am these days, LOL!


41 posted on 03/20/2013 3:32:47 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: humblegunner

Cultists, da?

42 posted on 03/20/2013 3:37:47 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Da, Ja!


43 posted on 03/20/2013 3:47:12 PM PDT by humblegunner
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