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Posted on 03/19/2013 5:44:56 PM PDT by Doogle
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The B-17 was in fact better armed as was the B-24.
The big advantage the Lancaster had was it’s incredible for the time bomb load. It could carry 22,000 pounds. It also had a much longer range than the B-17.
I will admit that an American aircraft carrying 13 .50 caliber guns was way ahead of 10 .303 machine guns.
I know that Lancasters were still being used only a few years ago, tho not as bombers.
My God they’re kids. Teenagers and yet they had the guts to fly in those planes. We’ll never agian see the like of such men.
Let us be honest, the carpet bombing was essentially a terror tactic which failed, not a military strategic offensive as was the American precision daylight attacks against military targets. In fact the Brits opposed the American strategy, and one wonders why, given the results.
I was thinking the same thing...baby faces, all. We'll never see the likes again, indeed :(
Many Thanks Brave Ones.
Certainly not what these guys were doing. Of the two men I mentioned know one was 19, the other was 18. The pilot was 21. Trust me, a great many of men fighting every where in WW2 were teenagers. A lot of them lied about their age so they could enlist.
That plane is a B26 Marauder, my dad flew in one.
Bump for a great post.
I don’t buy it. I’ve seen enough from WW2 and the world was CLEARLY black and white. I’m not fooled by this.
At 22, I was stationed in Frankfurt, Germany.
I'm certainly not in the same class as these heroes-- I just thought it was ironic. :)
My dad was a B-17 pilot during WWII, stationed in England also, he would tell us some wild stories..... We lost him 1/8/2013
God bless him. My thanks to him for my freedom.
As far as ‘’carpet bombing’’ or ‘’area bombing’’ as the RAF called it being a failed terror tactic, keep in mind it was the Luftwaffe that first engaged in it. Warsaw, Rotterdam and Coventry to name a few. To the average Briton it didn’t matter much at all if ‘’Jerri’’ and his wife and kids and what any other German was getting theirs so long as, as the Brits put it ‘’We’re giving it to them back!’’.
Other beautiful planes:
A-12/SR-71 “Blackbird” (brilliant engineering)
XB-70 “Valkyrie” (incredible engineering for a plane now 50 years old)
B-52 (amazing that some of these planes were built before their pilot’s fathers were born)
Honorable mention: The Avro “Lancaster” (ugly as sin, but the only plane able to carry the “Tallboy” and “Grand Slam” bombs, which dramatically shortened the war in Europe)
Awesome stuff. My Dad left HS after turning 17, rode the bus to Butte Montana, then the train to San Diego to become a United States Marine, and eventually drive an amphib vehicle at Okinawa.
He lasted 45 days, before getting wounded severely enough to return to Honolulu to recover. He was ready to go back into combat service but the nukes saved him from that.
Mustered out still before his 20th birthday. But at his brother’s urging, later joined the Army reserves.
Along came Korea and worry of being called up, but wasn’t. My dad got out, but his brother served 27 years in the Army, retiring as a Lt. Col. - about as far as he could go without a 4 year degree. (Mormon guy, too - refuting what is sometimes falsely stated here).
My uncle did two or three tours in Vietnam, starting in the 1950s, again in 1960s.
Those palnes are beautiful. Most Brits know that we helped save them. I know they also did remarkable flying and strategy, tactics, technology and deceptions, to survive German attacks.
I shed no tears for German civilians killed. War is war. There is no excuse for our troops to lose life and limb, to spare civilians in muslim lands now, either.
Ironic when your dad fought Germans, is wearing a German parachute and listening to a German Jump Master yelling at you to hook up and prepare to jump out of a Luftwaffe plane.
“Am I the only one that sees the humor of the photo holding a Rolliflex - made in Germany - “
I noticed...oh for the days of the twin lens reflex...I remember when I wanted one...a Roliflex...
...but when I finally got a good camera, it was an AE-1...and I still have it and still use it...have taken thousands of pics with it...many places around the world...
Do you know if the Liberty Belle is based in Addison? If she is, I'll have to get over there and give her a visit. Thanks.
I know what u mean
A jewish buddy of mine lost nearly all his family older than him and his sister in the camps
Yet he always drives German
And wears a Lange and Sohne watch....
His wife bitches at him over it...
Nice fighter, but the best of war bird porn has to include the P-51!
I see those, and I immediate start singing, "We are poor little lambs who have lost our way....baa baa baa."
Without a doubt, my friend. Well stated.
Humble thanks. And thanks to the men who flew them and won us our freedom.
Oh man, there's just something about the drooping stance of that beast that speaks to me. Next to the iconic B-17, it's one of my favorite war birds.
Hah! That's definitely got me beat!
Gotta love that ‘nose art!’ Yeah they were not PC back then, now you probably would get a court martial for being insensitive towards females.
Or the P-38:
She caught fire in flight in Il 2011 but landed safely. I don't that she was based anywhere once she was restored; I think she was on a perpetual tour.
Definitely one of the top ten pin ups.
Yeah, I saw that posted further down in the thread. What a tragic loss.
I still use my Mamiya twin lens reflex. Film processing is problematic.
I learned on a Yashica D TLR camera. Very high quality, both of them.
Another kinda neat site to check out is:
http://www.thirdreichruins.com/ lot of before and after pics
Ya. My dad spent the entire war in the PTO, but wouldn’t buy VW. Or as he puts it any ‘Damn Jap car”
Funny how having someone trying to kill you for 4 years can color your outlook...
He’ll get over it.
Liberty Bell survived the forced landing with little damage, but the fire crew were afraid their truck would get stuck in the wet field, and after they heard all the passengers had gotten out, they decided not to risk getting their truck stuck and just let her burn.
P-38 .....my father’s plane. So proud.
You’re probably thinking of the Avro Shackleton, which isn’t a Lancaster but rather a third or fourth generation evolution of the Lancaster, powered by Griffon engines.
They were mainly ASW/Patrol aircraft, until the Nimrod came into service. Some were used as AEW platforms into the late 1980s or early 90s, their retirement postponed by the delays and cancellation of the Nimrod AEW. They were replaced by the RAF version of the E-3 Sentry.
Along with flashbacks of trapping shots aboard angled deck supercarriers loaded with F-4 Phantoms and A-6 Intruders.
Plus WW2 nurses wearing tailored form fitting uniforms and Farrah Fawcett style feathered hairdos.
Now that you mention it, I should have remembered that it was a much newer plane with Lancaster heritage.
This is less colorful but it meant something to me.
My dad was in the Navy, (the German fighting part was in the Normandy invasion) and he spent most of the war fighting the Japanese from a well known light cruiser that earned combat fame, during the 1990s I got to tour a Japanese destroyer in San Diego, it also gave me that strange feeling.
The most beautiful airplane of all time, for my money though, was this:
The British Spitfire.
Hard to argue with that pick, but of course, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
When it comes to admiring these legendary war birds, it's hard for me to do more than choose a top ten in no particular order. Like a doting mother, I can't seem to choose one over another :-)
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