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Obama admin stonewalling on big ammo buildup
WND ^ | March 21, 2013 | Garth Kant

Posted on 03/21/2013 10:15:52 PM PDT by Perseverando

Edited on 03/22/2013 4:54:13 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Lawmaker: 'They refuse to let us know what is going on'

Members of Congress are demanding the Obama administration explain why it is stockpiling a huge arsenal of ammunition and weapons.

The Department of Homeland Security bought more than 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition over the last year, as well as thousands of armored vehicles.


(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: 0skeeter; ammo; ammunition; banglist; cw2; dhs; drones; feinstein; guncontrol; harryreid; janetnapolitano; nra; planetx; sarahpalin; secondamendment
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1 posted on 03/21/2013 10:15:53 PM PDT by Perseverando
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To: Perseverando

Force them to answer by filibuster.


2 posted on 03/21/2013 10:21:20 PM PDT by Crooked Constituent
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To: Perseverando

Did Hitler, Mao or Stalin’s administrations go around giving “tell-all” interviews to the press?


3 posted on 03/21/2013 10:21:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Perseverando

I heard a little bit of the tail end of the Mike Huckabee radio show, and he had a guest on there who was some sort of civilian contractor who did military/homeland security stuff, and claimed that word is out amongst deployed troops that the bamster is assembling his own private army stateside. Didn’t catch the guy’s name.


4 posted on 03/21/2013 10:21:55 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Perseverando

Gettin’ ready for the great leap forward!


5 posted on 03/21/2013 10:23:08 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Perseverando

A billion bullets here, a billion bullets there, and pretty soon you’re talking real police state.


6 posted on 03/21/2013 10:34:36 PM PDT by notted
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To: Perseverando

Congress should just assume one hollowpoint for each representative. Then they might want to get the finger out.


7 posted on 03/21/2013 10:39:07 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: Perseverando

The largest Army in the world - the American people - await their answers.


8 posted on 03/21/2013 10:44:12 PM PDT by Dapper 26
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To: Perseverando

I read the whole article. Scary.


9 posted on 03/21/2013 10:49:50 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: Perseverando

Holy S**T, I never thought I would ever be in agreement with anything Medea Benjiman


10 posted on 03/21/2013 10:51:08 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: Dapper 26

Damned right! Obama did mention in his first pres. campaign something about a large domestic army. Hope y’all have finished stockpiling. I have shot with some garden variety security feds before, and they were pretty pathetic.


11 posted on 03/21/2013 10:52:20 PM PDT by Nucluside (ready)
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To: Perseverando
Even the far-left is worried by the feds’ growing power.

WND reported four days ago that Medea Benjamin, co-founder of Code Pink, a left-wing “peace and social justice movement” known for its colorful marches and protests, told WABC host Aaron Klein the potential for the Obama administration to abuse its growing domestic police power is “extremely troubling.”

Klein asked Benjamin, author of “Drone Warfare: Killing by Remote Control,” if she was concerned that military-style drones now authorized to fly over U.S. skies could be used against American citizens, the same question that prompted U.S. Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., to filibuster in the Senate earlier this month.

“Very much so,” Benjamin replied. “We see a militarization of the U.S. police forces here in the United States, and it’s a very troubling tendency.”

Furthermore, Benjamin charged she was “upset” that liberal Democrats – who might question and fight the federal government’s growing police powers under a Republican administration – “have been very quiet when this is happening under Obama.”

This is good news, and we need to use this gift as much as we can. If the far left is getting concerned too, then the center is as well, except of course the low information voters. This is an issue where the American people can rally to our cause. Send McCain and Grahmn to the old folk's home, and come out strong on this issue. It is the right thing to do, it desperately needs to be done, and it is a tremendous winning issue.

12 posted on 03/21/2013 10:58:52 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Perseverando

Why does DHS need weapons of war? What an ignorant question.

They are preparing for civil unrest. They know it’s coming.


13 posted on 03/21/2013 10:58:57 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Perseverando

Well, Congress holds the purse strings (via the Constitution) for a reason, Mr. Representative. USE IT!! Threaten to defund HLS until they answer.


14 posted on 03/21/2013 11:05:51 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Perseverando

Sounds like a case of extremists hording ammunition and weapons of war to me.

Someone alert Stupid Joe.


15 posted on 03/21/2013 11:24:46 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Nucluside

I’m no paragon of might, but my last trip through an airport was filled with TSA/HS types whom any 6 or 7 of which I could have broken in half. The government doth hire some sorry physical specimens of humanity to boot.


16 posted on 03/21/2013 11:29:19 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Perseverando

Very strange indeed. This government should be forced to answer... and the story I read months ago about the US government ordering thousands of concrete coffins. What was that about..This administration is acting bizarre so much they are frightening the people. He’s using executive orders to full-fill the agenda (one sided agenda/not, we, the united agenda) from his puppet master ( I say that because he is not doing this alone; he’s too immature). Simply by his own governance shows his character. This unfriendly stance towards Israel and this passionate yet creepy respect for the radicals he shows makes me distrust him more. I think Israel should protect themselves without Hussein Barrack Obama interference; because part of own our population does not even trust him here to protect us.


17 posted on 03/21/2013 11:32:52 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: Christie at the beach

http://www.casketsite.com/


18 posted on 03/21/2013 11:43:19 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: Perseverando

It sounds like they have no idea how much ammo, make or lot number on hand now. One manager was put in charge and this is the five year supply or a lifetime issue?


19 posted on 03/21/2013 11:49:23 PM PDT by Domangart
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To: JoeProBono

I don’t think it was these models in that this particular story was talking about. These are too nice.


20 posted on 03/22/2013 12:03:44 AM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: Christie at the beach

21 posted on 03/22/2013 12:05:15 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: jeffc
Well, Congress holds the purse strings (via the Constitution) for a reason, Mr. Representative.

He has Ben Bernanke for a reason as well.

Unless Congress wants to go full bore and investigate or impeach then this will continue.

We have not had a budget in 4 years and Congress doesn’t seem all that upset. We have been had.

22 posted on 03/22/2013 12:30:22 AM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: Perseverando

I had a nightmare the other night that Obama distributed the billion of rounds of ammo and weapons to his urban areas supporters. He was telling them that they were his civilian militia that was as large and as well equipped as the US military. He was fulfilling his campaign promise and that he thought it was only fair that they have weapons and ammunition for the coming financial crisis. I had a hard time sleeping after that dream .


23 posted on 03/22/2013 12:39:46 AM PDT by pterional
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To: Perseverando

Nice image, but it shows ball ammo, not hollow points. (They don’t miss a chance to make their actions seem less dangerous, do they?)


24 posted on 03/22/2013 12:48:58 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: pterional

Those thoughts have crossed my mind many times...I dont think it is that far removed from possibility!


25 posted on 03/22/2013 1:03:12 AM PDT by neverbluffer
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To: Christie at the beach

Bingo! He’s not that smart. In fact, he was put in that position because he’s not very smart. Dummies can be controlled. A guy with any intelligence would figure out how to turn on them.


26 posted on 03/22/2013 1:32:15 AM PDT by Terry Mross (This country will fail to exist in my lifetime. And I'm gettin' up there in age.)
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To: Vince Ferrer
Benjamin charged she was “upset” that liberal Democrats – who might question and fight the federal government’s growing police powers under a Republican administration – “have been very quiet when this is happening under Obama.”

Funny how the Republicans are quiet when the Republicans emplace the mechanisms the Democrats use later, but raise holy hell when the Democrats try.

Power is dangerous, especially when the person who controls it can change.

We need to remember the Constitution is there to protect everyone's Rights and act accordingly, regardless of who proposes measures which go outside the lines.

27 posted on 03/22/2013 2:09:00 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: pterional
I had a nightmare the other night that Obama distributed the billion of rounds of ammo and weapons to his urban areas supporters. He was telling them that they were his civilian militia that was as large and as well equipped as the US military.

They will likely be his cannon fodder, bullet traps, expendables. They still don't get it.

I think he's probably going to use street gangs for shock troops where he can. One more reason he was arming the Cartels.

28 posted on 03/22/2013 2:15:03 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Perseverando

i was told today by my congress-critters office (a republican) that they do not believe the ammo build up story.

he said he would need to see some documentation on the quantities that were bought.

has anyone seen any documentation or is it all just hearsay?


29 posted on 03/22/2013 2:15:38 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten

Seems to me if it were all a big bogus story without legs, wouldn’t the regime say as such? Or are they in favor of creating this climate of concern and fear?


30 posted on 03/22/2013 2:27:43 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: Perseverando
Lawmaker: 'They refuse to let us know what is going on'

Just prepping for Obama's third term.

31 posted on 03/22/2013 2:48:32 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Agreed.


32 posted on 03/22/2013 3:19:03 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: jeffc

DHS is a rogue agency. They need to be utterly defunded on a permanent and final basis.


33 posted on 03/22/2013 3:23:15 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: pterional

The loyalists are going to need their militias as well. The King will provide the arms.


34 posted on 03/22/2013 3:27:56 AM PDT by steveyp
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To: rdcbn

Code Pink has a Great Wardrobe!


35 posted on 03/22/2013 3:36:24 AM PDT by Big Red Badger
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To: jeffc
Well, Congress holds the purse strings (via the Constitution) for a reason, Mr. Representative. USE IT!! Threaten to defund HLS until they answer.

Congress had no problem agreeing cut our military by $487 Billion over ten years beginning in 2010, and again with Sequestration by $650 Billion over ten years.

Training is gutted, tuition assistance for our heroes was only re-instated yesterday via emergency funding, Operations and Maintenance money is short 40-60% across the services, 750,000 DoD civilians (from nurses to maintainers) are about to be furloughed, flying hours for all services have been cut to the bone, training for Army Brigade Combat Teams has been slashed 80%, and depot maintenance for all services is at a stand still.

But, Congress is allowing TSA to spend over $50 million on new uniforms and Homeland Security to by MRAP vehicles, weapons, and billions of rounds of ammunition.


36 posted on 03/22/2013 3:38:18 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

Of course miltary has been cut. DHS wants as little resistance as possible to commit their genocide.

How ANYONE can stay in this country with news like this is beyond me!


37 posted on 03/22/2013 3:50:03 AM PDT by ObozoMustGo2012
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To: Perseverando

These Reps need to get that info back home. Go around the media and talk directly to the people, gun groups and conservatives. Nobody likes the idea of an internal army.


38 posted on 03/22/2013 3:57:01 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Hardraade

Congress should simply declare 90% of the ammo surplus and order it sold at auction in 1000 round lots. I’d like to see that attached to the Continuing Resolution.


39 posted on 03/22/2013 3:58:37 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Vince Ferrer

If Rand Paul is smart he’d make this a signature issue and bring these marginal votes round to our side in the presidential election.


40 posted on 03/22/2013 4:00:15 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

Someone on the inside of DHS will sell out the location of the warehouses and or locations which will be involved in some form of theft or other “activities’.

With ammo worth more than silver in weight its a no brainer somebody or some groups will find a way to abscond with the Federal stash.


41 posted on 03/22/2013 4:02:44 AM PDT by Eye of Unk
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To: jeffc

Or order it liquidated and sold:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2999536/posts?page=39#39


42 posted on 03/22/2013 4:06:00 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Perseverando
I think Congress should ask the department about both of those issues, and I would like a full explanation as to why that has been done

Because you gave them the money, and because you were big enough pussies to allow the money to flow by CR, without a budget, for the last four years.

43 posted on 03/22/2013 4:06:38 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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44 posted on 03/22/2013 4:22:12 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: 1010RD

I’d like to know where they are keeping it. Probably not all in one place, probably dispersed for redundancy, and to be closer to where they plan on using it. Yeah, I’d sure like to know where the nearest storage site is...


45 posted on 03/22/2013 4:23:47 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Perseverando

Congress is as weak as a shadow, as treasonous
as Benedict Arnold, and as stupid as Bozo.

They are ONLY good at getting money for their
families and staff.


46 posted on 03/22/2013 4:27:25 AM PDT by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Perseverando

I am waiting for reliable media like N B C or the New York Times to cover this before I buy into this story.

/ sarcasm


47 posted on 03/22/2013 4:33:00 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Cearly, hollow-point pistol ammo is not for the military.
This stuff is intended to shoot US-the CIVILIAN POPULATION of the U, S, of A.
‘Course, they ALSO bought an EQUAL ammount of rifle/machine gun ammo as well.


48 posted on 03/22/2013 4:45:19 AM PDT by Flintlock ("The British are coming" to TAKE OUR GUNS!--Paul Revere)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Actually looks like reloads,you can see how far downthe sides of the case the sizer die went. Pic was probally taken by someone at WND for the article.


49 posted on 03/22/2013 4:49:15 AM PDT by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: Perseverando

Do Not the US House of Representatives understand that all spending provisions originate from their oversight? DEFUND - DHS, Obama Administration, EPA, DOE, NASA, DOJ and many of the other alphabetic abbreviations of the useless overlapping federal bureaucracies. The savings would be astronomical!

Duh, I forget the HR is run by Republicans who are afraid of the US Constitution and little Barry Soetoro, AKA Barack Obama, and Barry Dunham. Yes the HR is afraid of the Constitution - collectively they are spineless and have no balls. Better known as emasculated males or easier understood eunuchs whom are subservient to the emperor


50 posted on 03/22/2013 4:50:01 AM PDT by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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