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Gun porn (The ZiPô.22 L.R.)
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Posted on 03/23/2013 10:34:20 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar

The next generation of future weapons in a light, compact form factor. Simple in design, ZiP™ is a new Modular Weapons System, delivering amazing features with performance and upgradeability. With a near unlimited service life - you will experience The Future of Fun™ and a great day at the range. Camping, hiking, exploring the world - ZiP™ adapts to any mission.

ZiP™ - What's your mission?

Exceptionally affordable and with more features and functionality than any weapon ever delivered to date.

The ZiP™.22 L.R. brings a whole new meaning to the term gun of the future.

ZiP™ delivers a long sought after vision of “X-box” gamers and advanced weapon enthusiasts not possible until now. A futuristic weapons system where the unique arrangement of the principal components enables overall compactness and results in a new form factor. Multiple platform enhancements including the ZiPPIC™ Rail, ZiPNite™ Rail -or- the ZiPSBR™ Rail allow attachment of ZiP™ to your AR. (Approved ATF Form 1 Permit Required.) This makes ZiP™ The Future of Fun™ while delivering the compelling new “ZiP-Action” at an incredible value.

ZiP™ has a new and efficient form factor which makes possible the new ZiP-Action™ and 5 safeties, including a traditional cross-bolt trigger safety, a new modern sear safety improved by the development of a new linear trigger, and no winding trigger bar (also eliminating any dependency on the tiny coil spring in the rear of those dated striker designs) and lastly, a striker block which remains closed for nearly all of the trigger travel – opposite of all modern striker guns – making ZiP™ one of the most advanced platforms ever offered.

These improvements will have significant benefits for future ZiP™ family weapons design and delivering unmatched value to consumers.


TOPICS: Hobbies; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment; zip
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1 posted on 03/23/2013 10:34:21 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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Uses a standard Ruger 10/22 magazine.

Anybody familiar with it?


2 posted on 03/23/2013 10:35:19 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

3 posted on 03/23/2013 10:36:49 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

Neat, but it’s tough finding .22LR fuel.


4 posted on 03/23/2013 10:37:18 PM PDT by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Form follows function. So what is the function of this thing? From the looks of it the old Chicago Palm Pistol is more advanced.


5 posted on 03/23/2013 10:42:43 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (CLICK my name. See the murals before they are painted over! POTEET THEATER in OKC!)
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To: Jet Jaguar

youtube video review of pistol. Use 10 rd mags, no problem. It will jam if you use the ruger bx-25 25 rd clip. The pistol does not seat the larger mag properly.


6 posted on 03/23/2013 10:43:05 PM PDT by Fee
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To: Jet Jaguar

Should have the ability to shoot any near sized caliber other than .22lr, of which there is NONE anywhere.

I have about 30 plus bricks of .22L bought years ago, went out shopping today and all I see are signs at the ammo counter saying no this no that. But they basically had a full ammo counter of everything else from .17 to stuff heavier than .460 Weatherby.

Just no 22lr, 9mm, 40,.45, .223, 7.62x39 and .308.
I’m tempted to try selling some of that .22lr, people are frothing at the mouth for it.


7 posted on 03/23/2013 10:44:31 PM PDT by Eye of Unk
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To: Jet Jaguar

Looks like staple gun that a carpenter might carry.


8 posted on 03/23/2013 10:46:44 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: Eye of Unk

I will check the BX or PX tomorrow. We had plenty of .22 a few weeks back.

Also picked up 9mm and 357.


9 posted on 03/23/2013 10:47:47 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Eye of Unk

Yeah, and as hard as it is finding .22LR, try finding match grade .22LR.


10 posted on 03/23/2013 10:48:45 PM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: loungitude

tough? How about impossible. Sportsman’s Guide had some listed for Feb and it keeps getting pushed back. Probably will be a cancellation or the order wont be filled until 2015


11 posted on 03/23/2013 10:57:38 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Jet Jaguar

It does look futuristic, but the stapler comparisons are not unwaranted. For some reason, I’m reminded of the strange looking shotgun, the Pancor Jackhammer.


12 posted on 03/23/2013 11:00:14 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Kartographer

I first saw the USFA ZiP .22 on USFA’s website and it immediately caught my attention. Why? Well, for starters it is unique—very unique. It captures the imagination, finding something truly new in firearms development is a bit of a rarity. John Browning and Paul Mauser can still say that most firearms are mere modifications of designs they pioneered 100 years ago. So on that merit alone, I wanted to check out this pistol.

Secondly, being mainly polymer and uber-lightweight, this gun fills a niche for the survival crowd. It would fit easily in a backpack, truck or tackle box, and could be carried as an emergency survival gun without any undue weight.

Finally, it is versatile. It takes Ruger 10/22 magazines (I mean, who already doesn’t own a 10/22 and a plethora of mags?), and with the Ruger 25-round mags, it makes this pistol one of the few handguns on the market with a 25-round capability. In light of the recent fervor coming from the gun-grabbers in Washington, owning multiple guns that take the same high-cap mags might not be such a bad idea. This gun can also be converted into a rifle, and can be used in conjunction with other firearms with a standard 1913 Rail—all NFA rules do apply, of course.

Read more: http://www.petersenshunting.com/2013/01/11/exclusive-usfa-zip-22-review/#ixzz2OR07nT9k


13 posted on 03/23/2013 11:05:10 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Viennacon

Twenty or 30 years ago there was an automatic 22 that had a 100 round magazine, and was pretty cool supposedly, I guess it didn’t sell though.


14 posted on 03/23/2013 11:06:59 PM PDT by ansel12 (" I would not be in the United States Senate if it wasnt for Sarah Palin " Cruz said.)
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To: ansel12

Calico.


15 posted on 03/23/2013 11:08:46 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Fee

looks like it would take a round 50-round magazine though.


16 posted on 03/23/2013 11:11:25 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Looks like a good 3D printed gun project.

Actually I like the concept.


17 posted on 03/23/2013 11:16:29 PM PDT by Eye of Unk
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To: Jet Jaguar

It wasn’t the Calico, but it turns out that I read the review 36 years ago when Soldier of Fortune reviewed it. That means that I will still have the original Spring 1977 issue.

It is the American 180.

http://elmfg.com/am180/articles/sof-77b.html


18 posted on 03/23/2013 11:19:44 PM PDT by ansel12 (" I would not be in the United States Senate if it wasnt for Sarah Palin " Cruz said.)
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To: ansel12
Twenty or 30 years ago there was an automatic 22 that had a 100 round magazine, and was pretty cool supposedly, I guess it didn’t sell though.

http://bubbleheadgunnut.wordpress.com/2012/12/11/22-tuesday/

19 posted on 03/23/2013 11:22:23 PM PDT by expat1000
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To: ansel12

Thanks.


20 posted on 03/23/2013 11:25:32 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

What?

Are they afraid of showing the thing loaded with a mag?

Looks stoopit and space agey in the pics.

Wanna see a pic of my brother’s .22 space agey Smith and Wesson? It’s got Wessonality!

Next post....


21 posted on 03/23/2013 11:44:11 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Jet Jaguar
I hate this POS:
22 posted on 03/23/2013 11:50:00 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Eye of Unk

I would froth but, when Fairy was elected I frothed early and often.

I have plenty of rounds or rather, had, plenty of rounds.

Wuz out cleaning muh guns on a fishing trip and well..... a swell overtook the deck and washed everything overboard...cept the beer... Thankfully and Thank God....


23 posted on 03/23/2013 11:52:42 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

Really?


24 posted on 03/23/2013 11:52:44 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Demand Common Sense Nut Control.)
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To: Vendome

Is that a S&W 22/14 derivative?

I owned one and the extractor would never work.

Worse gun ever.


25 posted on 03/23/2013 11:53:32 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: The KG9 Kid; Jet Jaguar

My brother luvs this piece oh crap.

I hate it. Sucks at everything.

Accuracy? Sucks.

Extractor? Bunk!

Stove Pipes? You know you like em!!

Gone through 3 barrels in twenty years, despite never shooting more than 500 rounds? Who wouldn’t luv this POS??!!

Awesome!
Awesome!
Awesome!


26 posted on 03/23/2013 11:57:47 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: ansel12
It wasn’t the Calico,

It is the American 180.

Well you confused people with "20 to 30 yeats ago" and "100 round magazine", which was the Calico M-100

The American-180 was 30 to 40 years ago and 177 round magazine.

27 posted on 03/24/2013 12:58:20 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (I think, therefore I am what I yam, and that's all I yam - "Popeye" Descartes)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Well I read the article 36 years ago and was going by memory and thinking that it had died out.

I did get the part about being fully automatic correct and 30 years is pretty close to 36 years, in this casual context.


28 posted on 03/24/2013 1:02:30 AM PDT by ansel12 (" I would not be in the United States Senate if it wasnt for Sarah Palin " Cruz said.)
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To: ansel12
Incidentally the American 180 made a couple of popular culture appearnces in the late 70s

The first in Peter O'Donnell's Modesty Blaise novel Dragon's Claw(1978) got the usage mostly right.

The second in the UK TV series The Professionals "Hunter/Hunted" got it totally wrong. "A fully automatic laser-sight sniper rifle firing a 22LR cartridge effective to 1,000 yards - at least".

29 posted on 03/24/2013 2:21:32 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (I think, therefore I am what I yam, and that's all I yam - "Popeye" Descartes)
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Neat trick on that last. If it could really do that, sales would have gone outta sight!


30 posted on 03/24/2013 2:39:28 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Jet Jaguar
Uses a standard Ruger 10/22 magazine.

Anybody familiar with it?

Read a lot about it on the gun forums and my shooting YouTube channels.

Jam-o-matic with 10 round magazines, and won't operate with any other aftermarket non-Ruger 10/22 extended magazine. Will only work with the Ruger BX-25 magazine if you also buy USFA's magazine 'upgrade' kit that replaces the factory magazine spring with a stronger one.

There is an accessory Picatinny rail mount to mount it to the bottom of your AR, but then you've created a short barreled rifle and must register it with the ATF, pay the $200, and wait six months for the tax stamp.

Other than to have as a novelty item, it's pretty much a paperweight.

Gun Websites YouTube reviews:
Shooting ZiP .22 lr Pistol
ZiP .22 fail?

The High Road review thread: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=705385

31 posted on 03/24/2013 5:32:57 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Vendome
Looks stoopit and space agey in the pics.

Indeed it does. I want a gun that looks like what I think of as a gun. Too much of a traditionalist, I suppose.

32 posted on 03/24/2013 6:06:41 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
I just don't see any improvement over what currently exists. Yeah, it looks futuristic, but the ergonomics are obviously bad.

Having to push a plunger in front that runs parallel to the barrel to cock it, well... let's just say I see some fingertips getting, er, 'damaged' here and there.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

33 posted on 03/24/2013 6:23:56 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

That should make DIFI poop her drawers!


34 posted on 03/24/2013 6:51:02 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: loungitude

My grandson checked the local Walmart last night, all they have in stock is some 30/06 and 12 gauge.


35 posted on 03/24/2013 6:53:28 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: loungitude

This company just zipped away from a very desirable Single Action Army revolver program to this zip gun. They no longer answer any qweries regarding support for their $1000.00 revolvers. As I have one of their revolvers which is a most elegant and finely crafted tool, I am underwhelmed with their new and exclusive product and am unimpressed with their customer support.


36 posted on 03/24/2013 7:14:25 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: Jet Jaguar

That has to be the stupidest looking design I’ve ever seen. It must have been executed by a 21 year old new design graduate who grew up on COD. I can’t comment on the internal design they describe, all the little grooves, ruts, channels, nooks and crannies will fill up with dirt and gunk. All the protrusions and snag points will get in the way of smooth pick up and operation.


37 posted on 03/24/2013 7:40:03 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: SWAMPSNIPER; Lazamataz

Laz says she goes commando ....


38 posted on 03/24/2013 7:45:13 AM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

One of our local Three Bears stores which is like a smaller Costco here in Alaska has a full inventory of rifles and pistols, full ammo shelves as well.

But they also have signs saying they are out of the poodle shooter rounds like the .223. Most people carry at laest a .45 in AK because even the 9mm and .40 is insufficient against bear, the 10mm is the minimum.

So we have plenty of 10mm, .41magnum, 44magnum, .500 and such big pistol calibers.

What we don’t have is .22lr of which many Alaskans don’t have much use for though many have .22lr pistols and rifles. Its just a target range caliber and occasional small game round.

The .223 is pretty much a joke but can be used for wof control if its the right ammo but its not good for anything else. The .308 is also out of stock and actually its used a lot but not for big game, its a useful cartridge for hunting and is or was cheap.
Alaskans do NOT shoot off thousands of rounds willy nilly on the weekends, there is some indoor pistol ranges but they usually do not like the big magnum stuff, there are some outdoor ranges but with the adverse winter conditions they are deserted half the year.

So in summary Alaskans naturally stockpile ammo, what is off the shelf is the common NATO stuff and light pistol rounds. Almost all popular big game rounds are in full stock plus the lighter fast stuff like the 22-250, .243, 270 and such.

The DHS may have a billion .40 cal hollowpoints but 150 million people are stocked up with 30-06 and larger calibers hunting rifles.

And about those MRAPS, oooooh so scary...I bet they don’t float very well, cannot handle -40 temps, cannot be driven in deep snow or tundra and will probably breakdown and will have to wait for months for the most basic of repairs.


39 posted on 03/24/2013 8:02:21 AM PDT by Eye of Unk
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To: Joe Brower

I agree - seems to be more of a curiosity than an improvement Like the double-barreled .45 autos we’ve seen recently, I don’t see an advantage in functionality or in compactness. Plus there is the obvious fingertip riskiness you pointed out.


40 posted on 03/24/2013 8:59:17 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Squantos
Laz says she goes commando ....

Last time DiFi and I had sex, she was commando.

41 posted on 03/24/2013 9:04:11 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: expat1000

Kinda looks like a Russian DPM


42 posted on 03/24/2013 9:12:57 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: expat1000

I had a DPM in my hot little hands some years ago and told a friend that this is the correct gun to mount on his Russian Ural motorcycle side car, but he didn’t buy it LOL

It would have been so cool.
Local law enforcement may have begged to differ.


43 posted on 03/24/2013 9:23:23 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Lazamataz

Last time DIFI had sex there was primal ooze

EWwwwww!


44 posted on 03/24/2013 9:24:34 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: expat1000

45 posted on 03/24/2013 9:26:45 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: ansel12

***I guess it didn’t sell though.***

Blame Clinton’s AW ban.

Interesting note. There was a photo back then from RUSSIA showing a Russian officer holding one of these Calico firearms.


46 posted on 03/24/2013 10:31:09 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (CLICK my name. See the murals before they are painted over! POTEET THEATER in OKC!)
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To: expat1000

Ohhh an AMERICAN 180! Not to be confused with the AR-18.


47 posted on 03/24/2013 10:32:21 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (CLICK my name. See the murals before they are painted over! POTEET THEATER in OKC!)
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To: Jet Jaguar

***Worse gun ever.***

NO! The worst .22 was the STERLING pocket pistol from the 1970s. It would not fire two shots without constantly jamming. Worst pistol I EVER owned!

On the the other hand the Bernardelli VP .22 was one of the best. Wish I still had it.

I will admit that the S&W .22 did not perform well according to HANDGUN TESTS magazine (remember them?). They wanted to throw theirs in a lake rather than sell it to someone else.

Right now I have an Iver Johnson copy of a Walther .22 and it shoots good IF I use WINCHESTER ammo. Federal ammo will jam it.


48 posted on 03/24/2013 10:41:41 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (CLICK my name. See the murals before they are painted over! POTEET THEATER in OKC!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Iver Johnson is not a name you hear every day.


49 posted on 03/24/2013 10:45:15 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Oztrich Boy

***The American-180 was 30 to 40 years ago and 177 round magazine. ***

With an early LASER sight! They were given to the Utah prison system and when a prisoner acted up, they immediately calmed down when they saw a red dot appear on their clothes.

The owners were Mormons and gave a huge amount of stock to the Mormon Church.


50 posted on 03/24/2013 10:45:29 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (CLICK my name. See the murals before they are painted over! POTEET THEATER in OKC!)
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