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Ready for the apocalypse! One American family shows what it takes to prepare
dailymail ^ | 23 March 2013 | By Ryan Herman

Posted on 03/24/2013 6:28:49 AM PDT by dennisw

Imagine if suddenly, and completely without warning, the world experienced a total blackout – no electricity, no mobile phones, no banks, no internet, no TV, no emergency services.

As it becomes apparent that the lights are never coming back on, nations are plunged into chaos, mass riots break out in major cities and, without electricity, governments are toppled. Into the vacuum step ad-hoc militias, armed and ready to enforce their own rule of law.

This is the apocalyptic premise of the hit American TV series Revolution, which begins on Sky 1 this week. In the first episode, viewers are pulled through this nightmarish chain of events.

So, what would you do? It’s a question that members of a burgeoning subculture known as ‘Preppers’ – people who are prepared for any kind of disaster – have been asking themselves for years.

Preppers look at the world around them and see all kinds of potential threats – economic collapse, global warming, terrorism, nuclear war, dwindling energy supplies, asteroid strikes and, yes, a prolonged blackout.

They’ve largely reached the same conclusion: the end of the world as we know it is just around the corner, and time is running out to gear up for the total collapse of society.

Furthermore, the recession has seen ‘Prepping’ become a multibillion-dollar industry, with many American Preppers spending thousands every year stocking up on supplies

Ron Douglas has seen business boom in the past 12 months. A founder of the Red Shed Media Group in the States, he’s enjoying what might be described as the ‘profits of doom’.

Last year, Red Shed organised five Self Reliance Expos, which pulled in 40,000 punters at $10 a head, while its radio network has notched up over two million podcast downloads.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Agriculture; Business/Economy; Food; Gardening
KEYWORDS: preppers; shtf
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1 posted on 03/24/2013 6:28:49 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw

Alas, Brave New Babylon.


3 posted on 03/24/2013 6:35:57 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Kartographer; blam; The Duke; ChocChipCookie; Marcella; JRandomFreeper; Bride Of Old Sarge; ...

Oh dear Gawd. Boys and girls, ya gotta see this.

Yet another example of “Doomsday Mediawhores”...


4 posted on 03/24/2013 6:43:50 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: dennisw

31. Heirloom seed bank

Good beginning - hope they are planning to farm, raise livestock and grow corn etc., for the long term. Unless they plan on shooting wild turkeys, deer & rabbits.


5 posted on 03/24/2013 6:45:48 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers.)
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To: dennisw

While I applaud this family for doing this I see no board games or other form of “primitive” entertainment for the kids? Eventually the little ones are going to get bored.


6 posted on 03/24/2013 6:46:40 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (I have a copy of the Constitution! And I'm not afraid to use it!)
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To: dennisw

That’s an awful lot of assorted staples. Guess they have lots of papers to attach together.


7 posted on 03/24/2013 6:49:06 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: dennisw

Thanks for the publicity == now everybody knows where to go when they run out.


8 posted on 03/24/2013 6:52:06 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: dennisw

Looks like they are stockpiling kids as well!


9 posted on 03/24/2013 6:52:16 AM PDT by mrs. a (It's a short life but a merry one...)
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To: dennisw

Dad’s survival would be much more assured with daily trips to the gym.


10 posted on 03/24/2013 6:52:27 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: sodpoodle

# 46 —— firearms , but no ammo in site


11 posted on 03/24/2013 6:53:42 AM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: sodpoodle
Heirloom seed bank

If they don't know how to/aren't currently gardening, they are going to be very disappointed and hungry.

I spent most of a decade making all the common mistakes and losing some crops before I got really good at being able to count on putting enough food back to last until next spring.

At that, I'm out of tomatoes from last summer's harvest, but I'm still good on jalapeno peppers.

Having the stuff doesn't give you the skillsets to use it.

/johnny

12 posted on 03/24/2013 6:53:48 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Old Sarge

I need his address. I need to take what he’s got in the ZA.


13 posted on 03/24/2013 6:55:21 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: mrs. a

6 children so father has a standing army to fire on would be pillagers, post-apocalypto zombies and desperate Democrat hacks


14 posted on 03/24/2013 7:00:08 AM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing --- Joe Pine)
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To: dennisw

They’re going to need a gas supply, and lots of it.


15 posted on 03/24/2013 7:01:43 AM PDT by lurk
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To: rfreedom4u
While I applaud this family for doing this I see no board games or other form of “primitive” entertainment for the kids? Eventually the little ones are going to get bored.

Definitely a very useful neccesary idea

16 posted on 03/24/2013 7:01:50 AM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing --- Joe Pine)
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To: dennisw

Just started watching Revolution - the first season is available online.


17 posted on 03/24/2013 7:04:03 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Old Sarge
I don't think that casting aspersions is the way to go here. OPSEC is smart but helping to spread the idea to others has a measure of nobility too.
No prep is perfect and this family is way ahead of most. If they lead others to begin prepping in some way then I applaud their message.
18 posted on 03/24/2013 7:08:57 AM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: dennisw

“While I applaud this family for doing this I see no board games or other form of “primitive” entertainment for the kids?”

A few packs of playing cards could do the trick - but definitely more than one pack. The little one on the end looks kind of shifty and she might mark the deck...


19 posted on 03/24/2013 7:09:20 AM PDT by mrs. a (It's a short life but a merry one...)
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To: dennisw

“6 children so father has a standing army to fire on would be pillagers, post-apocalypto zombies and desperate Democrat hacks”

They also have a small “community” of their own, which would be of mental and emotional help.


20 posted on 03/24/2013 7:10:56 AM PDT by mrs. a (It's a short life but a merry one...)
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To: mrs. a

“The little one on the end looks kind of shifty and she might mark the deck...”

Agreed....can’t trust the gingers!


21 posted on 03/24/2013 7:25:43 AM PDT by wxgesr (I want to be the first person to surf on another planet.)
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To: dennisw

Obviously they’ve got a good supply, but what concerns me the most as a modest prepper is security. My question is, yes, you can have weapons and ammo, but in a long-term crisis, aren’t you going to have to band together with other family members and trusted friends/neighbors for real protection - especially in the cities? Remember the adage, “there is safety in numbers”. Wouldn’t that especially apply in a real long term “shtf” situation?

When food and water run out, the bad guys are also going to go hunting in large groups and they are going to take what you’ve got dead or alive. Fighting against a couple of individuals is one thing, but when you are going up against 50 to 100 individuals there is no way you, by yourself, are going to be able to stop them.

I’ve heard other preppers say that if things get bad, they will leave the city and go to a “safe” place - but how do you travel safely to get there? Again, just like in the wagon train days - is there not more safety in numbers?


22 posted on 03/24/2013 7:26:10 AM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: dennisw

I still think the two most important things to have for a *particular* disaster, is a timetable and a manifest *unique* to that kind of disaster.

The timetable has two parts: how much time do you have to prepare?, and how long do you expect the situation to last?

For example, you wake up in the middle of the night and you home is on fire. Your timetable is simple, get your family out of the house and grab your “grab bag” before you run out the door or window. Get a vehicle if you can. Estimated recovery time: a minimum of six months to a year.

The manifest is trickier. If possible much of it, like rarely accessed but critical documents, is stored offsite, as in a bank deposit box, or in a buried cache in your yard. Everything else is likely a loss.

Granted, a different disaster will have entirely different parameters. The worst disasters tend to take years to even build up, which gives you years to mitigate it, but recovery may be a decade or more. Very different timetable and manifest.


23 posted on 03/24/2013 7:27:41 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: dennisw

Also posted last night, with 141 replies so far:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3000129/posts


24 posted on 03/24/2013 7:30:39 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: outofsalt
"1st Rule of Prep Club: You do not talk about Prep Club."

OPSEC is everything - just read Selco's blogs to see how it really mattered when SHTF.

This guy is also quite interested in cashing in on the prepper popularity, as the article itself states clearly. Book rights, $400 in revenue - follow the money.

To say nothing of how the Brits look on preppers, as from the article:

While there’s no evidence to prove that Nancy (Lanza)’s lifestyle directly contributed to the tragedy of Sandy Hook, it has prompted some commentators to suggest that Preppers are gun-toting, conspiracy-theorising, right-wing militia. Much like the Australian punters who last year bet on the world ending after our planet is ‘consumed by the Sun’ (in which case, how would they claim their winnings?), there are radical elements within the Prepper community.

25 posted on 03/24/2013 7:42:21 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: Uncle Chip

Not very OPSEC bright, are they?


26 posted on 03/24/2013 7:47:49 AM PDT by carriage_hill (The most insidious power the news media has, is the power to ignore.)
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To: rusty schucklefurd
If and when your scenerio should ever come true then we truly have reached a point where life on this earth is not worth living.
27 posted on 03/24/2013 7:51:17 AM PDT by greyfox (If I were a Democrat I'd be pushing for the fairness doctrine too.)
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To: carriage_hill

It’s probably part of a marketing campaign for their website that sells supplies like this.


28 posted on 03/24/2013 7:59:21 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: rusty schucklefurd

After reading all of these doomsday posts I am going to spend the rest of my life worrying and gathering supplies so that I can hunker down in some filthy hovel and protect my stash. This sounds like a wonderful way to to spend the few years we have on this earth. I for one will spend the rest of my days
worrying and fretting about tomorrow and all the horrible things awaiting me down the road: I better close now and get
on with my worrying and what iffing, there’s not much time.
Half the society is nuts and the other half is crazy.


29 posted on 03/24/2013 8:01:13 AM PDT by greyfox (If I were a Democrat I'd be pushing for the fairness doctrine too.)
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To: greyfox

re: “I for one will spend the rest of my days
worrying and fretting about tomorrow and all the horrible things awaiting me down the road: I better close now and get
on with my worrying and what iffing, there’s not much time.”

Ah, gregfox, remember the story of the Ant and the Grasshopper? Remember the Boy Scout motto, “Be Prepared”. Planning for the future is not necessarily “fretting” and “worrying”.

Remember how Jesus once told his disciples, “When evening comes, you say, ‘It will be fair weather, for the sky is red,’ and in the morning, ‘Today it will be stormy, for the sky is red and overcast.’ You know how to interpret the appearance of the sky, but you cannot interpret the signs of the times.”


30 posted on 03/24/2013 8:08:24 AM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: Uncle Chip

“Red Shed Media Group”...

Good catch; I missed that reference completely.


31 posted on 03/24/2013 8:08:50 AM PDT by carriage_hill (The most insidious power the news media has, is the power to ignore.)
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To: rusty schucklefurd
I am simply amazed at the posts on this forum. I thought the people here were intelligent. Never heard so much drivel about Armageddon. My preparation is concentrated in the event of an atomic bomb attack. I've dug a large hole in my back yard and outfitted it with TV and internet access and oh yeah it will be covered so you cannot recognize it and try to take it over, so don't even think about it. Boy do I feel secure now.
32 posted on 03/24/2013 8:11:22 AM PDT by greyfox (If I were a Democrat I'd be pushing for the fairness doctrine too.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

If they don’t know how to/aren’t currently gardening, they are going to be very disappointed and hungry.


This should be posted on every one of these threads. The seeds are the easy part of gardening and that assumes that seeds are selected for the growing zone you live in. I have looked at the advertisements and researched a few of these companies and noted lots of problems. First and foremost, seeds gathered in the south may not grow well in Northern states and vice versa.

Gardening takes practice, soil preparation, irrigation, protection (pests/blight), fertilization, knowledge of plants (can’t plant some near each other), pollination, and the list continues. Even assuming a novice was able to grow a crop there is an equally daunting list of items/skills required to preserve the harvest if you plan on eating it year round.

Anyone thinking they are going to bug out to live off the land with a pack of “survival seeds” on their back and some rudimentary hunting skills like some kind of “Prambo” (prepping Rambo) are setting themselves up for failure.

If you are reading this and live in a suburb and plan to head for the hills you should be practicing now in your backyard to understand what you really face. I would concentrate on learning to grow staple crops (like potatoes) to get started and practice storing them as well. If you are not currently gardening and learning about gardening don’t count on it as part of your preparation!


33 posted on 03/24/2013 8:12:03 AM PDT by volunbeer (We must embrace austerity or austerity will embrace us)
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To: dennisw

Thank God I’m a country boy!


34 posted on 03/24/2013 8:12:32 AM PDT by greyfox (If I were a Democrat I'd be pushing for the fairness doctrine too.)
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To: rusty schucklefurd

Are you serious?


35 posted on 03/24/2013 8:14:00 AM PDT by greyfox (If I were a Democrat I'd be pushing for the fairness doctrine too.)
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To: greyfox

And run a trot line according to Hank Williams Jr


36 posted on 03/24/2013 8:16:26 AM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing --- Joe Pine)
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To: rusty schucklefurd

Don’t try to confuse me Rusty, I’m a Scientologist.


37 posted on 03/24/2013 8:18:41 AM PDT by greyfox (If I were a Democrat I'd be pushing for the fairness doctrine too.)
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To: rusty schucklefurd

Thanks for the tip rusty but I must go now, I’m late for my
weekly tupperware party.


38 posted on 03/24/2013 8:20:30 AM PDT by greyfox (If I were a Democrat I'd be pushing for the fairness doctrine too.)
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To: greyfox
I know you!

Your the guy that was bitching because you had to stand in line waiting for someone to give you food and water after hurricane Ike.

39 posted on 03/24/2013 8:49:35 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: dennisw

They just set themselves up for a raid by HS.


40 posted on 03/24/2013 9:58:54 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Liberalism: knowing you're better than everyone else because of your humility. -- Daniel Greenfield)
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To: lurk

A few buckets of beans ought to fix that.


41 posted on 03/24/2013 10:13:32 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: volunbeer

I’ve seen multiple history documentaries on the people sent to live in the Western United States and settling in Australia. We’ll solve the urban poor problem by sending them to the unsettled country to farm! People who had no idea how to farm were sent out to the wilderness. Those few who were farmers pushed out to the unexplored areas were able to make it, because they knew how to farm and only had to deal with rough territory. The city dwellers who had no idea what to do typically drifted back to the cities or became miners.


42 posted on 03/24/2013 10:23:15 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: Old Sarge
OPSEC is everything

OPSEC is everything what?

I Like trying to figure out acronyms but this one has me stumped.

43 posted on 03/24/2013 10:47:16 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: greyfox

You just don’t get it, do you?


44 posted on 03/24/2013 10:48:01 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom

OPSEC = “OPerations SECurity”.

Basically put, you don’t broadcast to the world who you are, where you live, what you own, and what you’re planning to do with it.

The Leftist Media is notorious for blowing the bejeezus out of OPSEC when there’s a Republican government: “Mr. President, regarding the upcoming military operations, which units are deploying, when and where will they attack, and what are the street addresses of the families of the generals in charge?”


45 posted on 03/24/2013 11:16:01 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: greyfox

“After reading all of these doomsday posts I am going to spend the rest of my life worrying and gathering supplies so that I can hunker down in some filthy hovel and protect my stash.”

Your thinking of preppers worrying all the time is wrong. I am a prepper and have prepared and don’t worry about anything that could happen. Hurricanes come through here even though I’m 100 miles from the coast. If I wasn’t prepared for that, you bet I would be worried. Since I am prepared, I don’t worry about hurricanes and that goes for any emergency that could happen.


46 posted on 03/24/2013 11:18:09 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: dennisw

I wonder how many folks making comments here know that the British article above this thread generally equates preppers with psychotic mass murderers?


47 posted on 03/24/2013 12:10:57 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: dennisw
From the British article behind the link.

"The show hasn’t met with broad approval within the Prepper community, perhaps because it sheds light on a more sinister side of the movement, one that generated headlines when it was reported that the mother of Sandy Hook killer Adam Lanza was a Prepper."

"Nancy Lanza, Adam’s first victim, was shot four times before her son embarked on a killing spree at Sandy Hook Elementary School, murdering 20 schoolchildren and six teachers before taking his own life."


48 posted on 03/24/2013 12:15:21 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: greyfox
If and when your scenerio should ever come true then we truly have reached a point where life on this earth is not worth living.

Speak for yourself, many of us are from families and regions in America that didn't get total relief from centuries of that kind of living until the last 95 years or so, and many of us wouldn't mind a challenge even today.

49 posted on 03/24/2013 12:16:46 PM PDT by ansel12 (" I would not be in the United States Senate if it wasnt for Sarah Palin " Cruz said.)
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To: Old Sarge

Ok. Thanks.


50 posted on 03/24/2013 2:39:10 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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