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Study: Gay Parents More Likely to Have Gay Kids
AOLNews ^ | Oct 17, 2010 | Paul Kix

Posted on 03/27/2013 5:30:13 AM PDT by 1010RD

Walter Schumm knows what he's about to do is unpopular: publish a study arguing that gay parents are more likely to raise gay children than straight parents. But the Kansas State University family studies professor has a detailed analysis that past almost aggressively ideological researchers never had.

When one such researcher, Paul Cameron, published a paper in 2006 arguing that children of gay parents were more likely to be gay themselves, the response from the academic press was virulent, to say nothing of the popular press; the Southern Poverty Law Center, for instance, equated Cameron to a Nazi.

Not all of the vitriol was hyperbolic. Cameron does not tolerate gay people. He believes that "homosexual practice is injurious to society."

The gay press, as far back as the 1980s, labeled Cameron "the most dangerous anti-gay voice in America." Though Cameron was the first to publish papers on the dangers of secondhand smoke, the scientific community has abandoned him. The American Psychological Association long since dropped him from its membership for an "ethical" violation.

Today, Cameron is the founder and chairman of the Family Research Institute, whose "overriding mission" is to publish "empirical research on issues that threaten the traditional family, particularly homosexuality."

Schumm doesn't go for that sort of research. After Cameron's 2006 paper, Schumm listened as the academic community stated certainty of two things: Cameron was an idiotic bigot; and the existing literature showed little to no societal, cultural or parental influence on sexual orientation.

Schumm began investigating the second premise. "I just want to know the truth about something," he tells AOL News. And he found it strange that parents can influence so many facets of their children's lives -- but not in any way their sexual orientation.

Lawyers for the state of Florida heard of Schumm's fledgling research and invited him in 2008 to testify in a case. The state's Department of Children and Families was attempting to uphold a ban on gay and lesbian parents adopting children. Schumm's testimony actually ended up aiding the gay parents in the trial.

He said: "Gay parents can be good foster parents," and "The decision to permit homosexuals to adopt is best made by the judiciary on a case by case basis."

Schumm tells AOL News that he agreed to testify as one of the state's witnesses only if his evidence was not "slanted" for or against gay rights.

But also in his testimony was an inkling of the robust research Schumm has just completed. His study on sexual orientation, out next month, says that gay and lesbian parents are far more likely to have children who become gay. "I'm trying to prove that it's not 100 percent genetic," Schumm tells AOL News.

His study is a meta-analysis of existing work. First, Schumm extrapolated data from 10 books on gay parenting; Cameron, for what it's worth, had only looked at three, and offered no statistical analysis in his paper. Schumm skewed his data so that only self-identified gay and lesbian children would be labeled as such.

This is important because sometimes Schumm would come across a passage of children of gay parents who said they were "adamant about not declaring their sexual orientation at all." These people would be labeled straight, even though the passage's implication was that they were gay.

Schumm concluded that children of lesbian parents identified themselves as gay 31 percent of the time; children of gay men had gay children 19 percent of the time, and children of a lesbian mother and gay father had at least one gay child 25 percent of the time.

Furthermore, when the study restricted the results so that they included only children in their 20s -- presumably after they'd been able to work out any adolescent confusion or experimentation -- 58 percent of the children of lesbians called themselves gay, and 33 percent of the children of gay men called themselves gay. (About 5 to 10 percent of the children of straight parents call themselves gay, Schumm says.)

Schumm next went macro, poring over an anthropological study of various cultures' acceptance of homosexuality. He found that when communities welcome gays and lesbians, "89 percent feature higher rates of homosexual behavior."

Finally, Schumm looked at the existing academic studies, the ones used to pillory Cameron's work. In all there are 26 such studies. Schumm ran the numbers from them and concluded that, surprisingly, 20 percent of the kids of gay parents were gay themselves. When children only 17 or older were included in the analysis, 28 percent were gay.

Abbie Goldberg is a psychology professor at Clark University, and the author of "Lesbian and Gay Parents and Their Children: Research on the Family Life Cycle," which this year won the Distinguished Book Award from the APA. She hasn't read Schumm's study, only seen the abstract. But she says, in general, that a meta-analysis of this nature relies on sample sizes that are often too small and may furthermore brim with participants whose perspective is firmly aligned with the LGBT community. In other words, they're aware of these sorts of studies and seek them out.

"The fundamental problem with this [type of meta-analysis] is such samples tend to be biased," Goldberg tells AOL News.

Schumm says he guarded against that by seeking out so many different works. And across all his data -- the 10 books he consulted, the anthropological study, the scientific articles -- he noticed how lesbians begat more lesbians. In Schumm's study, he quotes from the extant literature the stories of young women, describing how being gay was never frowned upon in their household, and so that "option" was available to them. That said, Schumm also finds evidence of gay mothers pushing their daughters, upset over a relationship with a man, to "try out women."

But couldn't gay men also tell their sons this? Yes, but Schumm tells AOL News that most gay men have at some point been with a woman, so they understand why their sons might date them. Whereas the literature shows some lesbians "have a hatred of men that's intense," Schumm says.

Schumm says it shouldn't have taken until 2010 to do the meta-analysis. Too often his colleagues impose "liberal or progressive political interpretations" on their studies, which inhibit further inquiry. "It's kind of sad," he tells AOL News.

As if expecting a political backlash himself, Schumm concludes his study with a quote from philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer. "All truth passes through three stages: First it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."


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How many of your elected officials have this information? Get it to them, before it's too late.
1 posted on 03/27/2013 5:30:13 AM PDT by 1010RD
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To: 1010RD

So much for “born that way”, eh?


2 posted on 03/27/2013 5:30:46 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: 1010RD

Child abuse. God have mercy on them.


3 posted on 03/27/2013 5:31:19 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: 1010RD

Sill me, I thought it was biologically impossible for same sex couples to procreate...


4 posted on 03/27/2013 5:34:37 AM PDT by Hurricane Andrew (There are no evil thoughts except one: the refusal to think.)
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To: MrB

We need to counter the lies and get this data out there. There is likely some epigenetic effects that can lead to homosexual feelings and desires. The important part is that environment makes a huge difference.


5 posted on 03/27/2013 5:35:03 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

Like turkey baster, like son...


6 posted on 03/27/2013 5:37:45 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: 1010RD

This, like the correlation between homosexuality and childhood sexual abuse, will never be allowed to become common knowledge.


7 posted on 03/27/2013 5:38:53 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: 1010RD; IbJensen; BillyBoy; Impy; Gilbo_3
Of course the argument they are using is that gay is like black, hispanic or being a female, in that that there is nothing unhealthy about it except the discrimination against it.

Make the laws fair and outlaw bigotry and train the kids to respect them and it wont matter because then gays will be healthy, happy and receiptive to progressive ideas (transexuals next?).

And more gays = more gay rights activists, just like illegal immigration.

9 posted on 03/27/2013 5:40:50 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: 1010RD

Wow. It used to be that all straight parents had gay children. Now it is gay parents having gay children. Besides the fact that gays can’t have children (don’t get sucked into this frame of thoughts). This article is a trick to get us talking about the normalcy of gay adoption. Don’t fall for it. Anything gay is evil although you would never think it watching Facebook the last 30 hours....Ugh!!!


10 posted on 03/27/2013 5:45:56 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: 1010RD

Just what excuse are lesbians/homosexuals going to give their children when they ask “why does Tommy have a mom and dad?”

I can just hear the indoctrination now. You’re lucky, you have 2 mommies or daddies, or those children aren’t normal. When their child gets beat-up in school for hitting on a straight child they only have themselves to blame. or hate crime as an excuse.

God bless these children, and God forgive this nation for allowing it to happen.


11 posted on 03/27/2013 5:46:16 AM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: 1010RD; P-Marlowe; narses; Salvation; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; NYer; Jim Robinson; bigheadfred; ...
Schumm says he guarded against that by seeking out so many different works. And across all his data -- the 10 books he consulted, the anthropological study, the scientific articles -- he noticed how lesbians begat more lesbians. In Schumm's study, he quotes from the extant literature the stories of young women, describing how being gay was never frowned upon in their household, and so that "option" was available to them. That said, Schumm also finds evidence of gay mothers pushing their daughters, upset over a relationship with a man, to "try out women."

But couldn't gay men also tell their sons this? Yes, but Schumm tells AOL News that most gay men have at some point been with a woman, so they understand why their sons might date them. Whereas the literature shows some lesbians "have a hatred of men that's intense," Schumm says.

Schumm says it shouldn't have taken until 2010 to do the meta-analysis. Too often his colleagues impose "liberal or progressive political interpretations" on their studies, which inhibit further inquiry. "It's kind of sad," he tells AOL News.

As if expecting a political backlash himself, Schumm concludes his study with a quote from philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer. "All truth passes through three stages: First it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

I took one of my masters degrees at Kansas State under Dr. Schumm. FWIW, he is an solid, openly Christian man working in an extremely secular university setting. He is there because his ability cannot be denied. His lectures would, when appropriate, bring in reviews and data from the religious perspective. Never, ever did I have any reason whatsoever to doubt his personal or academic integrity. Or his gifted, keen intellect. If Schumm says he found something, then rest assured that he found something.

12 posted on 03/27/2013 5:46:56 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: 1010RD

13 posted on 03/27/2013 5:48:44 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (For Jay Carney - I heard your birth certificate is an apology from the condom factory.)
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To: IbJensen

Malaria.

lol. I spit on my computer laughing so hard. Her name is Malia. You are a hoot!!!!!


14 posted on 03/27/2013 5:48:59 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator

I don’t spell very well.


15 posted on 03/27/2013 5:50:25 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: MrB
So much for “born that way”, eh?

My first thought as well.

16 posted on 03/27/2013 5:52:26 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: 1010RD

More likely to indocrinate any kids to be gay. The kids are not THEIR kids. Homos can’t reproduce remember.


17 posted on 03/27/2013 5:52:39 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: 1010RD

I thought you couldn’t “catch” gay?


18 posted on 03/27/2013 5:52:45 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: IbJensen

Don’t worry.....daddy said they can kill their babies.


19 posted on 03/27/2013 5:53:26 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: IbJensen

I don’t spell very well.

That’s ok with me. You made me happy today. I needed that laugh.


20 posted on 03/27/2013 5:54:06 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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