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1 posted on 03/28/2013 3:31:37 AM PDT by WCH
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To: Elsie; Colofornian; Saundra Duffy; teppe

And all the mormons are wondering if these were Semites or Lamenated-ites :)


2 posted on 03/28/2013 3:36:39 AM PDT by Cronos (Latin presbuteros->Late Latin presbyter->Old English pruos->Middle Engl prest->priest)
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To: WCH
I had a Professor in a North American Archaeology course in the 1970s who had studied the interglacial periods and figured humans in N. America could easily go back 32,000 years (double the Conventional Wisdom about Clovis).

It made sense to me, and I'm glad to see this data coming out.

4 posted on 03/28/2013 3:46:40 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: WCH

There is a lot of evidence that points to previous advanced “modern” civilizations. Too bad it’s all been wiped clean. Who knows what troves of historic/designs/inventions were lost in the books at Alexandria, and Constantinople. Such waste. Humans could have died off at the peak of a civilization much like ours and we will never know.


5 posted on 03/28/2013 3:49:44 AM PDT by FreedomStar3028
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To: WCH; HelenThomas

Some of your stuff ping.


6 posted on 03/28/2013 3:55:41 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: SunkenCiv

ping


7 posted on 03/28/2013 4:28:23 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz, Sen Mike Lee, and Sen Rand Paul are my adoptive Senators)
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To: WCH
New artifacts suggest civilization in America began earlier than thought . . and after a lengthy illness, it died in 2008 AD
8 posted on 03/28/2013 4:31:12 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: WCH
the Gault Site in Central Texas

It's where you find early Shruggers

9 posted on 03/28/2013 4:42:51 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The ballot box is a sham. Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: WCH
New artifacts suggest civilization in America began earlier than thought

And its ending sooner than expected.

11 posted on 03/28/2013 5:13:39 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: txhurl

Cen Tx artifacts ping.


12 posted on 03/28/2013 5:25:11 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (For Jay Carney - I heard your birth certificate is an apology from the condom factory.)
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To: WCH
Dr. Clark Wernecke says 2.6 million artifacts have been discovered at the Gault Site in Central Texas.

And ZERO artifacts have been found at Cumorah...


 
MORMON
Chapter 6

The Nephites gather to the land of Cumorah for the final battles—Mormon hides the sacred records in the hill Cumorah—The Lamanites are victorious, and the Nephite nation is destroyed—Hundreds of thousands are slain with the sword. About A.D. 385.

1 And now I finish my record concerning the destruction of my people, the Nephites. And it came to pass that we did march forth before the Lamanites.

2 And I, Mormon, wrote an epistle unto the king of the Lamanites, and desired of him that he would grant unto us that we might gather together our people unto the land of Cumorah, by a hill which was called Cumorah, and there we could give them battle.

3 And it came to pass that the king of the Lamanites did grant unto me the thing which I desired. 

4 And it came to pass that we did march forth to the land of Cumorah, and we did pitch our tents around about the hill Cumorah; and it was in a land of many waters, rivers, and fountains; and here we had hope to gain advantage over the Lamanites.

5 And *when three hundred and eighty and four years had passed away, we had gathered in all the remainder of our people unto the land of Cumorah.

6 And it came to pass that when we had gathered in all our people in one to the land of Cumorah, behold I, Mormon, began to be old; and knowing it to be the last struggle of my people, and having been commanded of the Lord that I should not suffer the records which had been handed down by our fathers, which were sacred, to fall into the hands of the Lamanites, (for the Lamanites would destroy them) therefore I made this record out of the plates of Nephi, and hid up in the hill Cumorah all the records which had been entrusted to me by the hand of the Lord, save it were these few plates which I gave unto my son Moroni.

7 And it came to pass that my people, with their wives and their children, did now behold the armies of the Lamanites marching towards them; and with that awful fear of death which fills the breasts of all the wicked, did they await to receive them.

8 And it came to pass that they came to battle against us, and every soul was filled with terror because of the greatness of their numbers.

9 And it came to pass that they did fall upon my people with the sword, and with the bow, and with the arrow, and with the ax, and with all manner of weapons of war.

10 And it came to pass that my men were hewn down, yea, even my ten thousand who were with me, and I fell wounded in the midst; and they passed by me that they did not put an end to my life.

11And when they had gone through and hewn down all my people save it were twenty and four of us, (among whom was my son Moroni) and we having survived the dead of our people, did behold on the morrow, when the Lamanites had returned unto their camps, from the top of the hill Cumorah, the ten thousand of my people who were hewn down, being led in the front by me.

12 And we also beheld the ten thousand of my people who were led by my son Moroni.

13 And behold, the ten thousand of Gidgiddonah had fallen, and he also in the midst.

14 And Lamah had fallen with his ten thousand; and Gilgal had fallen with his ten thousand; and Limhah had fallen with his ten thousand; and Jeneum had fallen with his ten thousand; and Cumenihah, and Moronihah, and Antionum, and Shiblom, and Shem, and Josh, had fallen with their ten thousand each.

15 And it came to pass that there were ten more who did fall by the sword, with their ten thousand each; yea, even all my people, save it were those twenty and four who were with me, and also a few who had escaped into the south countries, and a few who had deserted over unto the Lamanites, had fallen; and their flesh, and bones, and blood lay upon the face of the earth, being left by the hands of those who slew them to molder upon the land, and to crumble and to return to their mother earth.

16 And my soul was rent with anguish, because of the slain of my people, and I cried:

17 O ye fair ones, how could ye have departed from the ways of the Lord! O ye fair ones, how could ye have rejected that Jesus, who stood with open arms to receive you!

18 Behold, if ye had not done this, ye would not have fallen. But behold, ye are fallen, and I mourn your loss.

19 O ye fair sons and daughters, ye fathers and mothers, ye husbands and wives, ye fair ones, how is it that ye could have fallen!

20 But behold, ye are gone, and my sorrows cannot bring your return.

21 And the day soon cometh that your mortal must put on immortality, and these bodies which are now moldering in corruption must soon become incorruptible bodies; and then ye must stand before the judgment-seat of Christ, to be judged according to your works; and if it so be that ye are righteous, then are ye blessed with your fathers who have gone before you.

22 O that ye had repented before this great destruction had come upon you. But behold, ye are gone, and the Father, yea, the Eternal Father of heaven, knoweth your state; and he doeth with you according to his justice and mercy.


 
 
Mormon 8:2
And now it came to pass that after the great and tremendous battle at Cumorah, behold, the Nephites who had escaped into the country southward were hunted by the Lamanites, until they were all destroyed.


13 posted on 03/28/2013 5:38:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: WCH

**”... the artifacts suggest people must have arrived somewhere between 15,000 and 20,000 years ago. ****

Well I wish they would make up their mind!

Nat Geo years ago said artifacts on their cover were 20,000 years old! Then several years later admitted they were only 2,000 years old.

And a dig in So Cal showed artifacts that were supposed to be 10,000 years old. L S B Leakey visited the scene and declared them to be 100,000 years old.No one called him on it.


19 posted on 03/28/2013 7:09:05 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The murals in OKC are destroyed.)
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To: SunkenCiv

“Every one of the tools we dig up, I can still buy at Home Depot and Wal-Mart,”

http://www.johnspeedie.com/healy/saywhat.wav


20 posted on 03/28/2013 8:50:27 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: WCH

And they STILL didn’t have the wheel when Columbus got here.


24 posted on 03/28/2013 1:28:27 PM PDT by Last of the Mohicans
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