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Gun grabbers in California now require you fill out a form telling them all about your gun safe!
Vanity | 3/28/13 | Self

Posted on 03/28/2013 2:24:47 PM PDT by LibWhacker

Hey, Gang... Picked up a pistol the other day. Mine, a Glock, came with a lock from the manufacturer. While there, I overheard an exchange going on between the fellow in line next to me and the salesman.

The salesman asked him if he had a gun safe. Customer said yes. Salesman then whipped out a form that required the customer to answer a number of questions. All I got was... make, model, and number of guns. WTF! Don't the bastards keeping all this data on us have a database that tells them the number of guns each model holds??? Of course they do. What they seem to be trying to do, is to get people to reveal the number of guns they actually keep in the safe on site! Not registration, per se, but I guess when the confiscations begin, they'll know where to dispatch the jack-booted thugs to get the most bang for their buck. So to speak.

This has got to be a new law. I purchased a revolver earlier this year, that did not come with its own lock and there was no grilling about gun safes. They just required me to buy a cheap lock for it (which has been a requirement in California for many years now).

Your Simmering Buddy, LibWhacker


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Local News
KEYWORDS: banglist; california; disclosure; dojgunsafe; gun; guncontrol; gunsafe; safe; secondamendment

1 posted on 03/28/2013 2:24:47 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

This has been required for a while when you purchase any long gun.

It’s for the children.


2 posted on 03/28/2013 2:27:33 PM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot
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To: LibWhacker

Could it be a sales pitch?


3 posted on 03/28/2013 2:28:01 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: LibWhacker

I wonder if they have something new in the wings, some kind of “safety of storage” sort of law. They compare the # of guns and the size of model of the safe you specified, then slam you for improper storage according to THEIR criteria.


4 posted on 03/28/2013 2:29:30 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: LibWhacker

Do a search on the California state laws and see what gun safe turns up.


5 posted on 03/28/2013 2:30:15 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: LibWhacker

If a gun salesman starting interrogating me like that during a purchase, I would take my business elsewhere.


6 posted on 03/28/2013 2:37:57 PM PDT by dainbramaged (Joe McCarthy was right.)
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To: LibWhacker
Just bought another small shelf safe and noticed the blurb on the box saying it qualified as some sort of Calif. DOJ approved per penal code blah-blah.

Interesting only Calif. BS was listed, not other insane states like NJ and NY.

7 posted on 03/28/2013 2:38:18 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: mnehring

To sell him a safe? Maybe. But he produced what looked like an official Dept. of Justice form for the guy to complete. I completely trust these guys at this particular gun store. They’re honest and prices are fair. They’re conservative and ticked off at the ‘rats.


8 posted on 03/28/2013 2:38:28 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: CarmichaelPatriot

Hmm, bought a couple of rifles earlier this year and nothing about gun safes came up during the transactions.


9 posted on 03/28/2013 2:39:39 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker
Here you go- your gun safe must be sized to properly hold the number of guns you own, so naturally there is a form where you state what model of safe you have and what's in it, so they can be sure you comply with everything.

State of California - Office of the Attorney General, Kamala D. Harris

Regulatory Gun Safe Standards

DOJ regulatory standards require a gun safe to meet either:

All of the following requirements:

  1. Shall be able to fully contain firearms and provide for their secure storage;
  2. Shall have a locking system consisting of at minimum a mechanical or electronic combination lock. The mechanical or electronic combination lock utilized by the safe shall have at least 10,000 possible combinations consisting of a minimum three numbers, letters, or symbols. The lock shall be protected by a case-hardened (Rc 60+) drill-resistant steel plate, or drill-resistant material of equivalent strength;
  3. Boltwork shall consist of a minimum of three steel locking bolts of at least ½ inch thickness that intrude from the door of the safe into the body of the safe or from the body of the safe into the door of the safe, which are operated by a separate handle and secured by the lock;
  4. Shall be capable of repeated use. The exterior walls shall be constructed of a minimum 12-gauge thick steel for a single-walled safe, or the sum of the steel walls shall add up to at least .100 inches for safes with two walls. Doors shall be constructed of a minimum of two layers of 12-gauge steel, or one layer of 7-gauge steel compound construction;
  5. Door hinges shall be protected to prevent the removal of the door. Protective features include, but are not limited to: hinges not exposed to the outside, interlocking door designs, dead bars, jeweler’s lugs and active or inactive locking bolts.

10 posted on 03/28/2013 2:39:58 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: LibWhacker

That’s the way it was when I was in Cali. I just made stuff up for that part of the form.


11 posted on 03/28/2013 2:41:06 PM PDT by Rio (Tempis Fugit.)
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To: LibWhacker
A bunch of morons are running CA.

Every time I get a new handgun, the gun lock gets thrown into the abyss of my garage, then the gun is immediately taken to the range for shooting-in. The gun leaves the range loaded and is returned to my home loaded. Finally, it is placed somewhere handy in my home loaded.

The last place a handgun will end up in my home is in a safe where it is not readily available for use.

And for the, "it's for the children" crowd, my teenage daughters fully practice "gun control" and go to "group therapy" sessions at the range on a regular basis.

12 posted on 03/28/2013 2:44:38 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: dainbramaged

This is the best gun store in the Central Valley. They seem to have everything in stock. The prices are fair (considering the environment at the moment). And they’re PO’d conservatives. I think it’s a new law. FineSwine must’ve pushed it through.


13 posted on 03/28/2013 2:44:47 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Have no idea what you saw.

I bought several guns in the last few years and never got that question.

All came with a lock in the box and I had one extra in case it was missing.

Never been axed about a safe.


14 posted on 03/28/2013 2:46:26 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: doorgunner69

Yeah, we’re real cutting-edge out here! A model for the rest of gun-grabbing pretenders in other states to aspire to, lol!


15 posted on 03/28/2013 2:51:27 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

If they know about the safes they will just confiscate the safe, and whatever is in it.

They don’t ask violent criminals to keep their guns in safes.


16 posted on 03/28/2013 3:01:40 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: LibWhacker
They just required me to buy a cheap lock for it (which has been a requirement in California for many years now).

I carry a state-approved handgun lock and a state-approved long-gun lock in my car. Any time I choose to buy a firearm, I can trot those into the store and demonstrate that I don't have to pay the extra $15-$20.

17 posted on 03/28/2013 3:01:42 PM PDT by Pollster1
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To: LibWhacker

The law is that if you refuse a gun lock upon receiving your gun then you have to sign an affidavit declaring you have a gun safe. Don’t know about the actual questions you have to attest to though.

Nowadays most guns come with manufacturer supplied locks so the gun safe affidavit really isn’t necessary.

Another stupid Cali law... for the children.


18 posted on 03/28/2013 3:02:31 PM PDT by broken_clock (Nuke'm til they glow, then shoot'em in the dark.)
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To: DBrow
Wow, thx. Can't keep up with the blizzard of unconstitutional laws flying out of Feinswine's a**. I thought the law only required you to keep your guns in a safe OR locked with a trigger or bolt lock, and that could be a cheapie,, as all of mine are.
19 posted on 03/28/2013 3:03:16 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Another reason why I’m happy that we left California.


20 posted on 03/28/2013 3:07:14 PM PDT by MeganC (The left have so twisted public perceptions that the truth now appears pornographic.- SpaceBar)
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To: LibWhacker
California requires a CADOJ approved gun safe or cabinet if you have children in the home. They do not require to register the safe. But don't give them ideas.

My friend and I have purchased firearms in the past few years and absolutely no mention ever came up. Nor did anyone mention if we had children in the house (we do not).

21 posted on 03/28/2013 3:09:43 PM PDT by chrisinoc
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To: LibWhacker

The California Gun Safe ~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8WGazmpp7s


22 posted on 03/28/2013 3:17:08 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Pollster1

You know what they told me when I asked them if I couldn’t just bring my locks in to prove I didn’t need to buy one? A big fat “NO!” The only way that gang of traitors in Sacramento felt they could be assured the gun lock met current legal standards would be for gun buyers to buy a new lock at the time of purchase. I want out of this state SO bad!


23 posted on 03/28/2013 3:18:38 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: SkyDancer

LOL... wait, I shouldn’t be laughing. I should be screaming bloody murder because that’s what these democrap fools are doing to us.


24 posted on 03/28/2013 3:25:11 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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25 posted on 03/28/2013 3:35:19 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: LibWhacker
Don't buy your guns in California. There are other states for long guns and the black market for hand guns.
Tell the government to GO TO HELL !
26 posted on 03/28/2013 3:41:54 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Thanks. Is that an older one? The latest one apparently asks you about the number of guns.


27 posted on 03/28/2013 3:49:02 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

I found this on the net, converted it from pdf.


28 posted on 03/28/2013 3:54:15 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: LibWhacker

Exactly - how can you defend yourself when the state requires you to keep your guns in a locked safe?


29 posted on 03/28/2013 3:59:33 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: LibWhacker

If I went to buy some heat and the gun store clerk asked me if I owned a gun safe, my answer would be short and simple: None of you damn business!


30 posted on 03/28/2013 4:32:47 PM PDT by jespasinthru (Proud member of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.)
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To: LibWhacker

Makes sense - I get most of my exercise jumping to conclusions.


31 posted on 03/28/2013 4:45:34 PM PDT by dainbramaged (Joe McCarthy was right.)
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To: broken_clock

I think that’s a federal law that’s been in effect for about 25 years. You buy a new gun and it comes with a new gun lock, right in the box. I bought a new mini-14 about four years ago, and it came with a long, thick, sturdy lock. I liked that lock so much that I used it on my bicycle. And wouldn’t you know it? Somebody sawed off that lock and stole my bicycle. Talk about a false sense of security!


32 posted on 03/28/2013 4:47:47 PM PDT by jespasinthru (Proud member of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.)
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To: dainbramaged

Lol, I’m rather good at that, meself!


33 posted on 03/28/2013 5:04:24 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

You are welcome. That was a quickie search, I could not find where stores must ask. It could be that stores do it to get you to buy a bigger safe?

Anyway, if it’s a required form/procedure you should be able to find it, or...go face to face and ask the store guys! And post it here naturally.


34 posted on 03/28/2013 6:28:41 PM PDT by DBrow
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