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Is global warming causing harsher winters?
nation.com ^ | March 29, 2013 | Richard Ingham, Claire Snegaroff

Posted on 03/29/2013 1:04:48 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

Millions of people in northern Europe are still battling snow and ice, wondering why they are being punished with bitter cold when - officially - spring has arrived and Earth is in the grip of global warming.

Yet some scientists, eyeing the fourth year in a row of exceptionally harsh late-winter weather in parts of Europe and North America, suggest warming is precisely the problem.

In a complex tango between ocean and atmosphere, warming is causing icy polar air to be displaced southwards, they contend.

“The linkage is becoming clearer and clearer, I think, although the science has not yet been settled,” said Dim Coumou of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research (PIK) near Berlin.

(Excerpt) Read more at nation.com.pk ...


TOPICS: Outdoors
KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalcooling; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax
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1 posted on 03/29/2013 1:04:48 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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2 posted on 03/29/2013 1:16:22 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Justifiable homicide.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Are they serious?


3 posted on 03/29/2013 1:20:37 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

“Earth is in the grip of global warming”

Amazing. Just amazing.


4 posted on 03/29/2013 1:20:46 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Up is down
Black is white
Right is wrong
Evil is good; good is evil

The twisting world of the Left.


5 posted on 03/29/2013 1:21:01 AM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

You knew this was coming when it went from manmade global warming to manmade climate change.

The data wasn’t supporting their claims. Now they just make up the data and use cool terms like “polar vortex”. Sounds scary.

We’ve unleashed the polar vortex and the second chokra! Run!


6 posted on 03/29/2013 1:23:46 AM PDT by mindburglar (It must be noon, because I'm drunk somewhere.)
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To: mindburglar
We've unleashed the polar vortex and the second chokra! Run!

Release the craken!!!

7 posted on 03/29/2013 1:26:01 AM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Good. Prepare yourselves. This false flag is going to be imposed. Take good care, to prepare everyone you can reach with rational planning.


8 posted on 03/29/2013 1:29:06 AM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: Berlin_Freeper

GREAT!! we could use the extra moisture!!!!!


9 posted on 03/29/2013 1:56:29 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Solar CYCLE!!!!

10 posted on 03/29/2013 1:57:46 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Of course.....Gorebal warming causes rain, snow, bunions,
as well as insanity. Obumbo gets elected twice....Gorebal Warming, I tellya...Were all gonna die.
If we can just get some global cooling, there want be so many of us left to complain.


11 posted on 03/29/2013 2:31:10 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: Berlin_Freeper

According to physics, because global warming lowers the differences between any two areas, there should be less storms and those storms should be less severe.


12 posted on 03/29/2013 2:35:24 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

In climate science tenuous links are determinative, faked data is okay if it proves the point.


13 posted on 03/29/2013 2:37:52 AM PDT by jimfree (In November 2016 my 12 y/o granddaughter will have more quality exec experience than Barack Obama)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
NO NO NO
It's not Global Warming its George Bush that is causing the problem. . . . . s
14 posted on 03/29/2013 2:41:12 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Call it by correctly. It is people control not GUN CONTROL . . . . . .)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Do they realize what happens if you go far enough north. At the North Pole. How much cold air is at the North Pole morons ? What is the volume. How does that stand a chance at freezing the vast tundra of Siberia ? Or Canada for that matter. Geez people. We are living on a sphere. North ends at one point. South ends at one point.


15 posted on 03/29/2013 3:04:57 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Global warming has taken the place of the deity for Liberals. Every event from cooling to warming to hurricanes is linked to it.

There is no event that would falsify this greatest fraud in human history.

16 posted on 03/29/2013 3:10:31 AM PDT by Stepan12
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Global warming causes global cooling. Its a zen koan. Meditate on it and you will be enlightened.


17 posted on 03/29/2013 3:14:37 AM PDT by HerrBlucher (Praise to the Lord the Almighty the King of Creation)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
“The linkage is becoming clearer and clearer, I think, although the science has not yet been settled,” said Dim Coumou of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research (PIK) near Berlin.

I thought the debate was over?

18 posted on 03/29/2013 3:19:36 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Dixie Yooper

Dim is aptly named.


19 posted on 03/29/2013 3:22:09 AM PDT by JohnnyP
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To: JohnnyP
I never really liked this bumper sticker back in the 90’s, but it explains this whole changing climate thing a whole lot better than any scientist has... “$hit Happens”
20 posted on 03/29/2013 3:33:19 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Warm globally, cool locally!


21 posted on 03/29/2013 3:35:14 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I long ago realized that a key trait of “Liberals, Progressives, Communists” etc. Is that they have absolutely no problem in changing the meaning of words to suit their agendas.


22 posted on 03/29/2013 3:39:57 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Yes, and when London was so entrenched with harsh winters in medieval times that they actually held FAIRS on the frozen RIVER Thames, it was those stinking factories and cars that was the cause!


23 posted on 03/29/2013 3:45:18 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Dixie Yooper
Their models cannot predict what they see happening but they can manipulate the data (and the media) to produce the desired result - more government control over you. They settled that part a long time ago.
24 posted on 03/29/2013 3:49:53 AM PDT by eggman (End the Obama occupation of the White House!)
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To: Northern Yankee

denial is not just a river in Egypt


25 posted on 03/29/2013 4:00:01 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: Jonty30
According to physics, because global warming lowers the differences between any two areas, there should be less storms and those storms should be less severe.

Not between any two areas, but between average tropical and average arctic conditions.

In the standard global warming scenario, the arctic gets much warmer, particularly at night, while the tropics remain about the same as now.

As you say, this reduces the delta-T between these two regions, which is the primary driver of world weather. Just not the only one.

26 posted on 03/29/2013 4:09:09 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Berlin_Freeper

The solar maximum has not happened. The Pacific Decadal oscillation is in a negative (cold) phase and the Atlantic oscillation is trending down from its warm phase and possibly headed into a cold period. If the three cycles maintain their present states we will experience some deep cooling over the next decade(s)!


27 posted on 03/29/2013 4:26:11 AM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Is global warming causing harsher winters?

The same way gravity is causing people to fall up. Yes, indeed...

28 posted on 03/29/2013 4:26:56 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Caipirabob
Is global warming causing harsher winters?

The same way gravity is causing people to fall up. Yes, indeed...

Today, Good Friday, a day that signifies the hanging of Jesus for man's sins and more lefties believe in global warming than the miracle of Easter.

They are banning the Easter bunny, the Easter bunny?

Wow, there is a religious figure that needs to be banned.

Liberalism is truly a mental disease.

29 posted on 03/29/2013 4:35:43 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages, start today.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

This reminds me of the twisted, convoluted paths astronomers once used to chart the orbits of the planets when they were sure everything revolved around the earth. We’ll make it fit!


30 posted on 03/29/2013 4:39:45 AM PDT by runfree
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To: Rocky
Up is down
Black is white
Right is wrong
Evil is good; good is evil

The twisting world of the Left.

Yes, global warming causes more severe winters. And if we spend more money, we'll balance the budget.

31 posted on 03/29/2013 4:48:39 AM PDT by Bryan
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Not only harsher - longer too....Taken to its final ends, global warming will turn the Earth into a frozen wasteland. (is a /s needed?)


32 posted on 03/29/2013 4:59:22 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Northern Yankee
Of course they're serious. There's only so much warmth to go around. If we use it all up when things are warmer than usual there's less warmth to use later, so it gets colder than usual.

Maybe I should try to get a government grant. /sarc

33 posted on 03/29/2013 5:00:09 AM PDT by ken in texas (I was taught to respect my elders but it keeps getting harder to find any.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Your Calender may show 2013 but we are living 1984...

In Today's America (A.K.A. The Obamanation) when facts don't back up your claims you just change the parameters to fit your assertions, just like the Ministry of Truth.

34 posted on 03/29/2013 5:08:56 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Dixie Yooper
"I thought the debate was over?"

No the science WAS settled until AlGore (A.K.A. ManBearPig) sold his "green" Cable Channel, "Current" to one of the Biggest of Big Oil.

Now the Science can be debated all over again so we can start a whole new run-up for some "Enviro Robber Barons" to make another great pile of cash!

35 posted on 03/29/2013 5:13:48 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

You are obviously not a scientist, it’s so simple.

The sequester is causing global warming which means everyone that doesn’t freeze to death is going to be killed by an asteroid.

It’s Bush’s fault so we have to take away everyone’s gun and raise taxes on the rich to stop it.


36 posted on 03/29/2013 5:16:54 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Berlin_Freeper
The Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming (CAGW) theory just has to be one of the most robust scientific theories ever proposed. Any observed weather, anywhere, is proof of CAGW.
37 posted on 03/29/2013 5:29:12 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: mindburglar

Mindburgler,
Do you know what the “CC” in IPCC stands for? This is an organization that has been with us since the 80’s

And are you also aware that the Arctic is currently melting even if you, personally, are cold?

Global warming and climate change are 2 sides of the same coin and both terms that have been with us for decades — global warming is the cause and climate change is the result.


38 posted on 03/29/2013 5:48:22 AM PDT by drewski
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To: IMR 4350

I plan on stealing your analysis!


39 posted on 03/29/2013 6:31:47 AM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: outofsalt

That’s fine. Scientific knowledge is to be shared.

You might want to think about buying yourself a boat so you don’t drown during the great flood that’s going to turn the entire country into a giant desert and dustbowl.


40 posted on 03/29/2013 6:53:15 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: silverleaf
Yeah... tell me about it.

These people don't have a clue as to what's going on. As the old saying goes, "If you don't believe in anything, you'll believe everything."

41 posted on 03/29/2013 6:54:49 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: ken in texas
Yes... me too.
42 posted on 03/29/2013 6:56:25 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: drewski

So longevity of a name determines scientific validity?

I should have started calling myself superman when I was 5, I guess...


43 posted on 03/29/2013 7:00:47 AM PDT by MortMan (Disarming the sheep only emboldens the wolves.)
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To: GraceG
Suns magnetic field in long term decline....


44 posted on 03/29/2013 7:36:18 AM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: spokeshave

(PhysOrg.com) — Sunspot formation is triggered by a magnetic field, which scientists say is steadily declining. They predict that by 2016 there may be no remaining sunspots, and the sun may stay spotless for several decades. The last time the sunspots disappeared altogether was in the 17th and 18th century, and coincided with a lengthy cool period on the planet known as the Little Ice Age.

Read more at: http://phys.org/news203746768.html#jCp


45 posted on 03/29/2013 7:38:05 AM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Goerge Snoriaites afficianados I reckun.. cults are quite comoon these days, glibal varming?


46 posted on 03/29/2013 8:25:25 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

The equation:

Global warming equals government control over natural resources and transportation, control over us.


47 posted on 03/29/2013 8:27:07 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Cyprus - the beginning)
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To: GraceG
Solar CYCLE!!!!

And with the cycle 24 peak being the lowest it's been since the Dalton Minimum,

do not be surprised if the next two winters are similarly long-lasting and cold, with negative effects on crop yields and thus food prices.

48 posted on 03/29/2013 8:36:19 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

AGW is an unfalsifiable hypothesis where all things are possible. It requires multiple universes and a deeply held religious belief in AGW because it sure the hell ain’t science.


49 posted on 03/29/2013 8:39:06 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: outofsalt
The solar maximum has not happened.

Look at the graph in post #10. The solar max was modeled to be peaking in early 2013, but it increasingly looks like it peaked in early 2012, and we are on the down slope.

50 posted on 03/29/2013 8:41:32 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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