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Sheriff says Ga. toddler killed by 7 dogs
Foxnews ^ | March 28, 2013 | AP Story

Posted on 03/29/2013 7:08:22 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot

A toddler who slipped outside through a doggie door was mauled to death by her family's seven dogs in the backyard while the attack went unnoticed by child's mother and other relatives inside their home, a southeast Georgia sheriff said Thursday.

Bryan County Sheriff Clyde Smith said the child's grandmother told investigators she was lying in bed when she heard the pit bulls and pit bull mixes barking, and she looked outside her window to see them dragging the girl. Smith said she began yelling, "They're killing Monica!"

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Pets/Animals; Society
KEYWORDS: children; copbashersonfr; dangerousanimals; doughnutwatch; pitbulls
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These are dangerous dogs, bred for centuries to fight, to be aggressive, to kill others. Not 10 miles from my house, the same happened when a 3 YO daughter of the owner was attacked in her own yard by 2 of their pits. The mother was sentenced to 5 years in prison.

I can hear the defenders of this breed now, but, but, it is all the way the dog is raised.

1 posted on 03/29/2013 7:08:22 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot
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To: Neoliberalnot
[Get it in before everyone else]

Obama to propose universal background check and banning 'assault' dogs.

In fact any dog could be a potential 'assault' dog, progressives will simply ban all dogs, except for military and police force.

2 posted on 03/29/2013 7:13:42 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Neoliberalnot

A vicious breed to be sure.


3 posted on 03/29/2013 7:14:11 AM PDT by exPBRrat
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To: Neoliberalnot

I read this story yesterday... damned heartbreaking and enraging at the same time. What in the blue ***k are they doing owing SEVEN PIT BULLS with a baby in the house?????


4 posted on 03/29/2013 7:14:25 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: ScottinVA

owing=owning


5 posted on 03/29/2013 7:14:46 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: Neoliberalnot

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6 posted on 03/29/2013 7:15:34 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: Neoliberalnot

They’re large terriers. Its what they do.


7 posted on 03/29/2013 7:16:29 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Neoliberalnot

8 posted on 03/29/2013 7:18:24 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: ScottinVA

One of my brothers and his wife got rid of their small POODLE when it nipped someone and they had a new baby.


9 posted on 03/29/2013 7:20:15 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Neoliberalnot

Mother not watching her child, grandma lying in bed. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE!!! Lazy, useless morons. Charge these fools with neglect, and murder. This enrages me. I’m so tired of things like this.

God bless this child. The suffering was great. My heart cries for this child. :(


10 posted on 03/29/2013 7:20:55 AM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Poor child, what a terrifying and painful way to die.


11 posted on 03/29/2013 7:21:31 AM PDT by Roger_Wildcat
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To: Neoliberalnot

Stories like this just break my heart. An innocent 3 year old... words fail me.


12 posted on 03/29/2013 7:23:51 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: Roger_Wildcat

Please do not take my post the wrong way re: the death of a Ga child.


13 posted on 03/29/2013 7:24:17 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Neoliberalnot

It’s her own fault...how dare she go through the “doggie door” /s


14 posted on 03/29/2013 7:27:59 AM PDT by montag813
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To: ScottinVA

Doesn’t matter what breed, NEVER leave a small child unattended with ANY dog, let alone seven. Even with the best-behaved of canines, pack mentality can assert itself in dangerous ways.


15 posted on 03/29/2013 7:28:02 AM PDT by coydog (Time to feed the pigs!)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Seven anybreed is a bit much. These dogs have a bit more inclination to be aggressive, but this whole episode could have started as rough play gone too far. If there were that many damned people living at that address, why the hell wasn’t SOMEONE watching the baby? Demanding the banning of American Staffordshire Terriers is not different than banning AR-15s. Buy a clue.


16 posted on 03/29/2013 7:32:49 AM PDT by Segovia
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To: Neoliberalnot

I am about to abandon my Libertarian views but ths is one instance where something does just need to be banned. There are a gazillion choices of breeds to choose from which will defend you and your property but not kill you in the process. Cesar Milan can handle these dogs. You and me not so much.


17 posted on 03/29/2013 7:33:49 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: coydog

I have a pack of four male dogs, three of them tiny minpins. They bark at everyone who goes near the fence. I don’t think that they would ever harm anyone, but the pack mentality is a strong thing. Imagine 7 pit bulls.


18 posted on 03/29/2013 7:34:49 AM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Dogs are not inanimate tools. bogus comparison.


19 posted on 03/29/2013 7:39:51 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Neoliberalnot
I can hear the defenders of this breed now, but, but, it is all the way the dog is raised.

I got into an argument a few years ago on a Chet99 thread about "it is all the way the dog is raised" with a pit owner. Barbara Streisand.

What a horrible way to die.

20 posted on 03/29/2013 7:40:59 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (For Jay Carney - I heard your birth certificate is an apology from the condom factory.)
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To: coydog
You know something about dogs, but not about Pitbulls. Many of the same type of attacks have been attributed to a single pitbull. Many other breeds of dogs, in fact, view children as a part of the pack that they will protect against threats from other dogs and people. As a licensed DVM for a few decades I have dealt with every breed, and there are several dangerous breeds out there. Trust me, I have had lots of close contact and had to forcefully restrain more than one in order to perform minor procedures.
21 posted on 03/29/2013 7:47:15 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Segovia

So an inanimate object, a tool if you will, is the same as a living mammal with a brain? You kiddin?


22 posted on 03/29/2013 7:49:04 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Actually, I have handled quite a few as a licensed DVM. There are several other dangerous breeds that can also be handled by adults with the expertise.


23 posted on 03/29/2013 7:50:47 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: mardi59
Trash acts like trash.

I had a neighbor in college who had a couple of Chows (another vicious, unpredictable breed) and they also kept rabbits in hutches outside. They could never figure out why the rabbits were dying of no apparent causes, when it was from FRIGHT (heart attack) when the dogs would charge the cages. I watched this several times.

24 posted on 03/29/2013 7:52:56 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude

Yep, another potentially dangerous breed. I once witnessed a single Chow attack the female owner. The male Chow grabbed her by the side, then her arm and pulled her to the ground. Her husband was close by and rescued her using a two by four on the dog. Oddly, they said the dog was upset because there was a bitch in heat in a nearby yard.


25 posted on 03/29/2013 7:59:47 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: fwdude

Yep, another potentially dangerous breed. I once witnessed a single Chow attack the female owner. The male Chow grabbed her by the side, then her arm and pulled her to the ground. Her husband was close by and rescued her using a two by four on the dog. Oddly, they said the dog was upset because there was a bitch in heat in a nearby yard.


26 posted on 03/29/2013 8:00:10 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Neoliberalnot

“... and there are several dangerous breeds out there”.

You are absolutely correct especially concerning dogs being around small/young children. When we were considering getting a large dog, our vet recommended staying away from these breeds: pit (or pit mix), rott, and chow. We went with a GSD and never had an issue. IMHO, different types of breeds react differently and people should choose based on their lifestyle/family.


27 posted on 03/29/2013 8:10:48 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: Neoliberalnot

20+ years ago, a neighbor’s loose pit bull sunk his teeth into a little kid, in front of our house. My roommate grabbed the biggest carving knife in the drawer, ran outside, and promptly sunk it in the canine’s neck. It seemed cruel, at that moment, but he probably saved the kid’s life.


28 posted on 03/29/2013 8:11:54 AM PDT by jttpwalsh
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To: momtothree

” IMHO, different types of breeds react differently and people should choose based on their lifestyle/family.”

It isn’t an opinion, it is a fact. Some breeds have herding instincts, others have hunting instincts, and others will retrieve anything. I once had a Border Collie, never trained a day in his life, but he knew very well how to handle livestock, or anything that needed to be herded. Disposition is part of the breed.


29 posted on 03/29/2013 8:15:11 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: jttpwalsh

Absolutely, he did the right thing. That was an emergency situation. I once had to choke a Charpai with a noose to make him let loose of a female vet student’s hand. When he couldn’t breath he released his grip. It was chaos for about 30 seconds as you can imagine.


30 posted on 03/29/2013 8:17:38 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Cesar is a showman honey

A TV show

7 french bullldogs could be dangerous to a toddler

Plenty of breeds especially with a lot of uncut males could attack a toddler like that

Backyard pits raised like suite

Who owned 7 any dog but breeders

I suspect dog fighting in this bunch

I am old

Have owned many big tuff breeds....currently Rott and Johnson Bulldogs

And I,he owned pits

Meanest dog I ever had ....and had to let him go to hog hunters...was a big black old southern bulldog

Looked like a black panther but thought he was sub alpha and protective of Wifey and subservient to me but bit our kids...little nips then worse...11 stitches

Had I been home...I would a shot him....but my boy begged me not to from emergency room

Any dogs in numbers but especially guard or fight breeds cannot be around prey acting toddlers unsupervised

I have pits to be more dog aggressive than most....my girl Johnson is too

But I think Rotts and other larger and smarter attack breeds are more dangerous

There are simply so many pit style dogs around and in poor hands

Some city girl raising one in a condo at five points is gonna have a different outcome than some jackass with one tied to a chain in the mud that he throws scraps to once a day and teases with kittens

7 pits just rings like scrap fighting to me...we have it in TN too

No child should die like that but banning Pits won’t stop it

Those sorts will go back on to Rotts or Catahoulas etc


31 posted on 03/29/2013 8:21:32 AM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: Neoliberalnot

I just saw the headline and I KNEW it wasn’t poodles. Maybe I’m psychic? Or maybe the Charles Manson of dogs is an inherently dangerous breed.


32 posted on 03/29/2013 8:36:49 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (When anyone says its not about Islam...it's about Islam. That death cult must be eradicated.)
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To: Segovia

“Demanding the banning of American Staffordshire Terriers is not different than banning AR-15s”

To be fair, 1) an AR-15 is not going to shoot someone without a human pulling the trigger, 2) whereas dogs can attack without a human “pulling the trigger.”


33 posted on 03/29/2013 8:46:38 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Neoliberalnot
As much as these stories are heartbreaking, and generate despair, I can't shake the certainty that you can't ever fix the combination of ignorance and stupidity.
34 posted on 03/29/2013 8:48:27 AM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: Sir Napsalot
Obama to propose universal background check and banning 'assault' dogs.

You forgot the important other ingredient, they must also buy insurance.
If they are deadbea... errr, parasites and can't afford it, one of the 300 federal welfare programs will subsidize it.

Taxpayer money fixes everything ---- except criminally incompetent elected officials.
Ain't democracy wonderful?

35 posted on 03/29/2013 8:52:08 AM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: Neoliberalnot
Consider this and the numerous other cases, such as the two animals who shot the one year old in the stroller.

Question: I wonder how many of these re-treads and monsters in training are the results of the LBJ "war on poverty" welfare driven dis-function machine?

Has anyone tried to tie this all together? It`d be nice to know just how many of the crimes in this country are committed by people, or their children, who are on public assistance? Even better would be adding: Just how long has the particular family line been on public assistance? Where did they start and what has been the results of all this "enforced altruism"?

It would be interesting to know just what we`ve purchased and how much it has cost in both lives and money. Hell, we already know its cost the Republic.

36 posted on 03/29/2013 8:56:52 AM PDT by nomad
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To: PghBaldy
One of my brothers and his wife got rid of their small POODLE when it nipped someone and they had a new baby.

I did the same thing with a sheltie we had when our daughter became a toddler. She reached over a gate at the stairs to pet the dog who was on the other side and the dog snapped at her hand. I had to get rid of the dog as I knew I could no longer trust her around my toddler.

37 posted on 03/29/2013 9:11:40 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: Neoliberalnot

I worked 20 years in a service industry and have been in thousands of people’s backyards.

There were only two instances where I wasn’t able to bluff my way past barking, growling dogs. Both times they were Chows.


38 posted on 03/29/2013 10:06:21 AM PDT by Rebelbase (1929-1950's, 20+years for full recovery. How long this time?)
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To: Neoliberalnot

Shoot the dogs; hang the owners.


39 posted on 03/29/2013 10:09:48 AM PDT by meadsjn
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To: nomad

That is a question for a different thread. It could be these people were just poor and don’t listen when you attempt to reason with them about the danger of their dogs. Many veterinarians refuse to treat these dogs because of the liability.


40 posted on 03/29/2013 10:58:18 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Rebelbase

I bet you had some type of protective device? A stick, club, a weight on a light chain, etc. Lots of Vets simply refuse to treat some of these dogs to avoid the liability. Sometimes the dogs bite the owner, sometimes they bite the staff—the money is not worth the risk and the multi-thousands of dollars paid out in lawsuits to the owners.


41 posted on 03/29/2013 11:01:52 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Neoliberalnot
The checklist...

1) Large and/or aggressive breed of dog? Pit bull, the most common offender.

2) Running loose, often >1 running loose? Yes, the entire pack had the run of the place.

3) Previous reports of aggressive behavior? They “might have” killed a cat.

4) Unreasonable expectation of passivity from owner, often despite #3 above? Yes. They left an unsupervised toddler in with a pack of pit bulls.

Score = 3 out of 4 or 4 out of 4.

42 posted on 03/29/2013 11:07:18 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: LibertarianLiz

That is bizarre for a Sheltie. Of course, there is always the chance of an aberrant personality problem in any breed. I had a friend who bred and showed Shelties. When I visited her for the first time her 13 full grown dogs came out to greet me. They were intact males and females and I never saw one growl at another or me while I was there.As a stranger I was inundated with kisses, although a few were more aloof than others they too came around after a day.Three slept in bed with me. Beautiful breed.
I had two and they both loved babies. In fact my first thought he was a kid. He wanted to get on the school bus and actually trick-or-treated door to door with the kids. The whole neighborhood knew and loved him. He used to lay on the sofa with his head across the legs of our babies and they learned to walk by getting handfuls of long hair and walking behind him. Never growled or showed teeth to a human in his life.
There can always be a ‘bad’ dog in a breed.My aunt had a bi-polar cocker spaniel. As he got older he would get a crazy look in his eyes and snap at you if you petted him too long.
The trouble with pit bulls is there are so many BYB’s breeding fighting dogs that almost every pit bull alive has a violent ancestor still alive. It’s in the bloodline and I would no more trust a pit bull completely than I would a schizophrenic psychopath who is temporarily calm. And I like dogs more than most people.


43 posted on 03/29/2013 11:34:25 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (When anyone says its not about Islam...it's about Islam. That death cult must be eradicated.)
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To: Neoliberalnot

A clipboard and 12’ retractable steel tape.


44 posted on 03/29/2013 11:51:58 AM PDT by Rebelbase (1929-1950's, 20+years for full recovery. How long this time?)
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To: ClearBlueSky
This dog just wasn't as nice as some shelties I had, had up to that point. My first sheltie was very much like the ones you described. My nieces and nephews would come over and she was just fine with them. She dearly loved my late Father (who was not a dog person), and would cuddle next to him whenever he sat on the floor to watch t.v. When she died (liver cancer) he cried, and swore that he would never get that attached to an animal again.

I now have a corgi (first time with this breed), and he is just a sweetie. Loves people, not so much other dogs.

45 posted on 03/29/2013 11:55:32 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: Rebelbase

Not much protection. Guessing you are a big man with a vicious look in your eye.


46 posted on 03/29/2013 11:56:14 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Neoliberalnot

I’m a dog whisperer.


47 posted on 03/29/2013 12:12:07 PM PDT by Rebelbase (1929-1950's, 20+years for full recovery. How long this time?)
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To: Neoliberalnot

I take back two dogs, it was actually 3. The third one was a demon possessed wiener dog.


48 posted on 03/29/2013 12:13:35 PM PDT by Rebelbase (1929-1950's, 20+years for full recovery. How long this time?)
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To: jttpwalsh

“My roommate grabbed the biggest carving knife in the drawer, ran outside, and promptly sunk it in the canine’s neck.”

DUDE! That’s impressive, good job.


49 posted on 03/29/2013 12:21:20 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: jocon307

Apparently, he had seen someone do it, years ago, and reacted in a heartbeat.


50 posted on 03/29/2013 12:36:34 PM PDT by jttpwalsh
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