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'Walking Dead' season finale (spoiler alert)
MSN ^ | 3/29/13 | Don Kaye

Posted on 03/29/2013 10:51:56 AM PDT by Sybeck1

Series star Andrew Lincoln told Rolling Stone that "27 people die" in what he described as a "crazy season finale," which makes it safe to say that the war everyone has been expecting will break out in a big way. And we fully expect to see some major characters among those 27 casualties -- after all, this is "The Walking Dead," where even top billing does not keep you safe.

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TOPICS: Music/Entertainment; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: thewalkingdead; walkingdead
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To: ConjunctionJunction

Just idle talking to my son. What if a walker attacked Chuck Norris? Son said “Chuck Norris wouldn’t turn into walker, walker would turn into Chuck Norris”


41 posted on 03/29/2013 1:45:37 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up.)
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To: Patriot Babe

So when are they going to put us out of Rick’s misery and put the final stake through long dead Lori?


42 posted on 03/29/2013 1:45:58 PM PDT by shotgun
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To: dhs12345
I stopped watching when they started killing off all of the main characters.

You stopped watching after the third episode?

43 posted on 03/29/2013 1:46:38 PM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: discostu

Yeah...I just hope we don’t have to wait 2-3 seasons to see Negan. That guy makes the governor look like a choir boy.


44 posted on 03/29/2013 2:00:46 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: verga
This season. The mother (wife of the sheriff), the nice old man (died in the field), the obese guy (minor character) that was shot and left to the zombies, the young girl whose mother is still alive (I think), that same mother's sister, etc. etc. Is the original black guy still alive? Don't remember seeing him recently. What happen to the sheriffs friend (possible father of the baby)?

Sorry, don't know the names of the characters. Not that in to it any more. But my son and I watched it for the first couple of, three? seasons.

Writers say that it is important for the reader to connect with and become attached to a character. Can't happen if the character is eliminated.

Bottom line.

It got boring. A lot like a cliff hanger or maybe a soap opera. Same idea as a soap opera.

45 posted on 03/29/2013 2:07:47 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345

Most of those weren’t this season (3). Dale, the old man, was killed near the end of 2. Otis, fat guy, early in 2. Sofia, girl, was killed early in 2 but we didn’t find out until the midway point. Sofia’s mom (Carol) didn’t have a sister, she had a husband, who was killed in season 1 along with Amy (Andrea’s sister). T-Dog, black guy, was killed early in season 3. Shane, sheriff’s friend, was killed at the end of 2.

If you don’t kill characters there’s no danger. And in many ways that danger gets you MORE attached to them, because you know they could be gone.

TV writers say all drama is soap opera. Because that’s the structure for maintaining drama across episodes and seasons. Single episode drama is based on conflict, drawn out drama is based on life interactions (dieing, hooking up, breaking up, reproducing), which is soap opera. All the shows that are non-episodic (characters start and end every episode in the same place) on some level use soap opera structures, it’s the only way to maintain long term plots.


46 posted on 03/29/2013 2:15:57 PM PDT by discostu (Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
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To: dhs12345
Agreed. Too much like a soap opera. How many episodes were they stuck at that farm? The whole season?

Yes, exactly what I meant. After the first couple of episodes in the first season, or at least with season 2, it turned into a lousy soap opera. The zombies seem like interspersed afterthoughts; slow moving, (too) easily dispersed with, not threatening in any way. Nothing more than a gory backdrop. Self-satirical, actually.

47 posted on 03/29/2013 2:27:11 PM PDT by Moltke ("I am Dr. Sonderborg," he said, "and I don't want any nonsense.")
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To: discostu

Thanks.

Ya. Don’t want to demean it. It is enjoyable to some and to us for a while.

We just got burned out. We’d still be watching it if my son had shown some interest. We lost it about the same time. Kind of ironic that it is emmensly popular now. Maybe because many viewers haven’t been watching it from the beginning like us and haven’t gotten weary of the plot yet.

I am not a writer but I can see what is happening. Shows start to fade when the writers run out of new ideas. They start doing things like killing off the main characters. That might be happening. Just my opinion,though.


48 posted on 03/29/2013 2:37:34 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345

They’ve been killing characters from the start, so it’s certainly not running out of idea. Especially because it’s based on a comic that’s been running for 10 years, and the writer of the comic is executive producer, any time the room runs low on ideas they’ve got the books to draw from, which they’re currently 7 years behind. Though they are actively trying not to completely replicate the books, they also don’t want to avoid good ideas (and characters).

It started off fairly popular, it just keep growing. The initial audience was zombie nerds, now it’s drawing fans of drama. Because it is just plain a good drama. That’s what AMC does, it’s amazing how similar all their shows are, even though on the surface you would think a zombie show would have no relationship to a western, a period piece in the 60s and a show about a drug dealer. In the end they really are all the same show.


49 posted on 03/29/2013 2:44:00 PM PDT by discostu (Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
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To: Moltke

The writers are running out of ideas. It is poplar now but I predict maybe one more season. No more seasons if they wipe out the cast. :)


50 posted on 03/29/2013 2:47:52 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: discostu

Wow. I didn’t realize that it is based on a comic book. That explains it — comic books follow the cliff hanger plot!


51 posted on 03/29/2013 2:58:30 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345

Actually Kirkman likes to end issue on a “holy #^&*” more than a cliffhanger. Shocking kills and discoveries in the last 2 pages are his bread and butter. Rather than leaving you wondering how they’ll get out of this, you’re wondering how they’ll DEAL with this.


52 posted on 03/29/2013 3:24:24 PM PDT by discostu (Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
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To: discostu
It started off fairly popular, it just keep growing. The initial audience was zombie nerds, now it’s drawing fans of drama.

Initial hour viewing last Sunday was 10.99 million.

The broadcast networks would salivate over those numbers.
53 posted on 03/29/2013 3:27:56 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy

They need to tell better stories. Network shows still tend to assume audiences aren’t that bright so they dumb down the stories, the keystone for this golden age of TV drama is networks that assume the audience is smart so you can tell complex stories. And oddly enough people like being talked up to more than down to.


54 posted on 03/29/2013 3:30:30 PM PDT by discostu (Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
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To: discostu

Ya. That is typical of the season ender. So that you’ll tune into the show next season. I know the game.

Sometimes, the writers do some really stupid things at the season ender. My wife and I watched the Ghost Whisperer Friday nights. An okay plot and entertaining and it was a routine for us. Then the writers got really stupid and killed off the main character’s husband and then the ridiculous idea to bring him back, the following season, in the body of another man. An “aw come on” moment. We watched it a bit longer and then stopped.

I think that it went on for another season, maybe two then no more. It was clear that the writers had run out of ideas. We enjoy the reruns, though.

Another series that we enjoy in reruns is Monk. The plot is repetitive and predictable but they made it work and the final show was superb.

I watched Breaking Bad for the first season, maybe two. Again, my point: you have to be able to relate to a character in the show. I lost interest when main character started becoming a cold hearted ba$$#!@. I guess the reality of a meth dealer.


55 posted on 03/29/2013 5:05:21 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Sybeck1
I might be the only one here who has been patiently waiting for a zombie baby since Lori became pregnant.
56 posted on 03/29/2013 5:10:07 PM PDT by TightyRighty (I enjoy well-mannered frivolity.)
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To: laplata

It caused Lori to die. Well worth it!


57 posted on 03/29/2013 6:26:54 PM PDT by americas.best.days... ( I think we can now say that they are behind us.)
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To: americas.best.days...

As long as the baby lives.


58 posted on 03/29/2013 6:34:51 PM PDT by laplata
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To: dhs12345

It’s not the typical season ender. The typical season ender is “how will they survive” as the name cliffhanger implies (originally, hanging from a cliff). TWD let’s you know they will survive but the situation has now changed. Season one ended with the destruction of the CDC, what had been the hope for a cure was now gone. Season 2 ended with the end of the farm, the death of a whole bunch of characters, and the rise of the Ricktatorship. Season 3 is gonna kill a bunch more, but it’s probably going to end with less threats (Governor gone), they’ll finish this one safer (though smaller) than they came in.

I think you just lose interest in shows. The whole point of Breaking Bad is Walt paying the price for his one bad decision. Vince Gilligan (show creator) has repeatedly said the goal is for him to be unlikable, even hatable in the end. And now that we’re half way through the last season it’s really there, Walt’s a sleaze bag.


59 posted on 03/30/2013 7:54:14 AM PDT by discostu (Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
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To: dhs12345

No cliffhangers. The group mostly survives, the governor flees, but not until after going completely postal and killing most of his able bodied people, the group keeps the prison, and unites with the Woodbury survivors. So now the group is close to 40 people, and most of them are completely useless in a fight. And in more proof that the writers have not run out of ideas that is a MAJOR departure from how the books went.


60 posted on 04/01/2013 8:07:02 AM PDT by discostu (Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
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