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TOO MUCH FOREST!

So, in the name of the environment, we were supposed to let farmlands revert to their "natural state"; but the "natural state" is "unsuitable habitat" for indigenous species, which are now declining.

Therefore, we now must "restore" the "unnatural" state of these "unmanaged" lands to "save the indigenous species dependent on the "unnatural" (cultivated farmlands) habitat!

Without "action", then government will impose, via the Endangered Species Act, even more stringent mandatory regulations to UNNATURALIZE the environment in the name of creating natural habitat!

EnvironMENTALists: you can't use it, and you can't un-use it!

1 posted on 03/30/2013 1:14:02 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch
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To: ApplegateRanch
Peter Rabbit, Tank Killer
2 posted on 03/30/2013 1:17:55 PM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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To: ApplegateRanch

There’s the problem with “natural state”...They’re picking the “time”. Why not wipe the little ba****** right out. That’s also a “natural state”.


3 posted on 03/30/2013 1:22:00 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: ApplegateRanch
I've always heard a lot about "destruction of an animal's habitat" -- but that usually doesn't mean "humans ceasing to do human stuff, and letting nature do what it does naturally".

How cruel of us! The bunnies are suffering!

4 posted on 03/30/2013 1:25:01 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The ballot box is a sham. Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: ApplegateRanch
I'm confused. I thought Beatrix Potter wrote Peter Rabbit.
5 posted on 03/30/2013 1:37:31 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: ApplegateRanch
This sounds so very Progressive. Now they are going to have to pry the tree huggers off the trees to cut them to save the environment. In ten years, just after the tree huggers are winding up with their “don't hug the trees” therapy, they will have to readjust to hugging trees again. I wonder if we will be suffering from global warming or reeling in fear of planetary glaciation at that time.
6 posted on 03/30/2013 1:42:02 PM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: ApplegateRanch

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thornton_Burgess

Turns out Beatrix Potter created Peter Rabbit, and Burgess consciously “borrowed” him.


7 posted on 03/30/2013 1:43:11 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Peter Rabbit and his family are not extinct! They have moved south and now live in the ravine behind my house. They are driving my dogs crazy because they can’t catch them.


11 posted on 03/30/2013 2:00:20 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: ApplegateRanch

We have similar stupidity here in Toronto. Some bureaucrat decided that the “natural state” of the ravines in the city consisted of hardwood trees and little undergrowth the proceeded to wipe out all the shrubs & plants. They didn’t take into account the fact that this “natural” state was the result of Indian hunters burning the undergrowth to flush out game.


12 posted on 03/30/2013 2:03:36 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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14 posted on 03/30/2013 2:08:05 PM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Not to worry. There are plenty of cottontail rabbits in central Minnesota. We could trap a few and give them to New England.


17 posted on 03/30/2013 2:28:17 PM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: ApplegateRanch

What, did the rabbits adapt to the unnatural state of cleared fields and pastures in just a few hundred years?

I must be on the wrong planet-the rabbits live in the woods/forest here-they avoid the open spaces in the full daylight because of these things called “hawks”, and a bigger thing called a mountain lion. I see them all the time when I’m hiking, staying under the trees-which happens to be where plants are growing on the ground...


18 posted on 03/30/2013 2:38:17 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: ApplegateRanch

I always thought they were target practice, rabbits ain’t fit to eat!


20 posted on 03/30/2013 2:51:59 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: ApplegateRanch

I’m used to ridiculous environmental alarmism, but this one is so far off the mark, it’s comedy. If there’s one thing you NEVER have to worry about, it’s having too few rabbits. Aside from houseflies and cockroaches, there is probably not another species on earth that is more fecund.


21 posted on 03/30/2013 2:55:59 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: ApplegateRanch

All the bunnies decided to leave that extremist liberal state.

We still got lots of them down here!


22 posted on 03/30/2013 3:05:47 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The murals in OKC are destroyed.)
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To: SunkenCiv; Slings and Arrows

I just absolutely knew fellow FReepers would have fun with this lunacy, & I was right.

“Thus saith the Hugh Manatee: Hail Holy Darwin: Thou puny Humans shalt not interfere with the Natural Order...except when We, his Holy Priesthood, can force interventions to thwart Holy Darwin, to preserve the Deserving, Cute & Cuddly, Unfit from Catastrophic Non-Interference. The Hugh Manatee hath spoken!”


23 posted on 03/30/2013 3:28:49 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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Worst still, there are no persistent observable differences between the abundant Eastern cottontail and the New England cottontail. In fact, biologists only discerned a difference between the New England cottontail and the New England cottontail after 370 years of observation, in the 1990s.


27 posted on 03/30/2013 5:39:24 PM PDT by dangus (Poverty cannot be eradicated as long as the poor remain dependent on the state - Pope Francis)
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To: ApplegateRanch
This and coyotes....


34 posted on 03/30/2013 8:53:46 PM PDT by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: ApplegateRanch

This is pretty funny. Various enviro memes at battle with each other.

The “natural” (no human intervention) plant succession in New England results in climax forest of deciduous and evergreen trees. Those trees live a really long time and the forest doesn’t change much.

The rabbits live well mainly in “young forest,” a much earlier stage in the progression where the forest starts to come back after disruption by logging, windstorm, forest fire, etc. Prior to the arrival of men the most common of these were fires, which probably often burned for weeks or months before running out of fuel or being put out by rain, “destroying” huge areas of forest in a random way.

When the white man appeared in the area around 400 years ago, the “natural state” of the land had for 10,000 years or more been routinely and regularly managed by fire by the Indians, who burned everything in sight every fall, as a way of ensuring better hunting the next year. What this means is that a new “natural” ecosystem had developed, dependent on this regular semi-controlled burning to maintain itself. This was of course in addition to the natural method of potentially massive completely uncontrolled fires, as the Indians had no way to put out big fires.

Today the “natural” method of resetting the plant succession of uncontrolled fires, and the “sorta-natural” (if you classify Indians as a species of wildlife as most liberals do) of sorta-controlled burns are both prohibited and controlled. So of course any land not cleared or built on eventually reaches the climax forest stage and stays there. Animals dependent on young forest become more rare or die out entirely.

The truly hilarious part is that occasional clear cutting of the forest for lumber products would simulate the natural processes of fire, windstorm, etc. nicely, and reset the plant succession. But we can’t have that because logging is eeeevil.


37 posted on 03/30/2013 9:55:46 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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