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'The Walking Dead' Season 3 Finale Review: 'Welcome To The Tombs' It Gets Worse Here Every Day...
forbes.com ^ | 4/01/2013 @ 12:01AM | Erik Kain

Posted on 04/01/2013 6:16:45 AM PDT by virgil283

‘The Walking Dead’ comes to a surprising conclusion in Sunday night’s Season 3 finale. [Spoiler warning.]...I won’t lie: I was hoping for the big, dramatic showdown between Rick and the Governor. Instead, The Walking Dead’s Season 3 finale ended on a mixed note, part tragic and part hopeful.

As a season finale, I’m not sure this works. The last five or six episodes of the show have been all about rising tension. The drama, the stakes of the game, the whole arms race between Woodbury and the prison, all of it has built up to a breaking point, spilling over last week with Merle’s suicide run against the Governor and his men.

The problem with the Season 3 finale is two-fold: First, Merle’s sacrifice is rendered pointless now that the Governor has gone and killed off basically his own entire army.

Second, none of the massive amount of tension that’s built up over the course of the season has been released or resolved...........

But what we have instead is a conscious decision to carry the existing conflict between the Governor and the prison forward. Why? For lack of a better villain? To flesh out the dwindling ranks of the survivors with a busload of new characters? New extras to feed to the walkers?

None of these questions result in satisfying answers. Fundamentally, this is a business decision, and sometimes business decisions are terrible for creative endeavors.

Many moments in this episode were great. The opening scene between the Governor and Milton, especially. Carl’s internal conflict and anger over Rick’s betrayal of Michonne........"

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"The attack on the prison started off really solid and then ended in a confusing retreat. Each good moment seemed to trail off into confusion and indirection. If the Governor had simply shot two or three of the people and then frightened the rest back to fight again, I could have bought that. If it had all come down to the final fight between the Governor and Rick and then pow! we were given a cliff-hanger…I’d be annoyed, but I could buy it..... Now don’t get me wrong, I want some of that tension to carry over into Season 4. It’s good to end with some uncertainty. It’s a fine thing to have doubt and terror and some sort of cliff-hanger to draw us over to the next season. Instead we have an episode that really doesn’t live up to many of the recent entries in Season 3, not so much because there was a great deal riding on this episode (though there was) but because the show took the easy way out and didn’t give us what it’s promised, at least implicitly, since we first met the Governor.............That’s a shame. It’s risky to kill off a great villain and resolve an important narrative. But that’s precisely what AMC did with Season 4 of Breaking Bad, and that remains one of the most incredible, poignant, and important moments in that show’s incredible run..........Then, when it’s all said and done, she’s killed off by walker-Milton in the Governor’s dungeon. I don’t know. For all my gripes with Andrea, I would have liked to see her at least go out fighting like Merle. Not just fighting some final walker, but really fighting, going toe-to-toe with the Governor and his goons.

Ah well. Disappointing finale or no, the show has been at its best over the past few weeks. Season 4 starts up in October and I’ll be waiting eagerly enough for the shambling dead. Hopefully we move beyond the prison, however, because another season sitting around in a structure, instead of battling it out on the road, isn’t going to cut it.............."

1 posted on 04/01/2013 6:16:45 AM PDT by virgil283
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Hey, I thought it wasn’t so bad...
Yes, the gov lives on...good for the next season...no prob with that.
Andrea gone is good and bad...she kept the groans going.
The gov wasting most of his “army” put to rest ANY sympathy for him and leaves him very vulnerable...
And taking in the people left from Woodbury gives other story lines and complications...
It works, IMHO.


2 posted on 04/01/2013 6:25:44 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: virgil283
I basically agree. I think the next to the last episode, with brother killing brother, was the better, more dramatic episode. The sudden and weak retreat from the prison and the Governor's massacre on the highway were just not believable, too quick, and the camera work was not as shocking as in other episodes. All in all, the season finale was a letdown after the huge buildup.
3 posted on 04/01/2013 6:25:55 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: virgil283

Critics. Nuff said.


4 posted on 04/01/2013 6:26:00 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: virgil283

There are way too many whiny (and wantabe-script-writers) reviewers 2nd guessing each episode. And too many whiny commentors (of the “I’m not going to watch any more” variety) popping up.

Personally, I think the writers are doing a great job and nobody can question the quality of acting the cast is doing. I eagerly wait for Season 4’s arrival.


5 posted on 04/01/2013 6:28:40 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: matginzac

I think the governor will be more dangerous without a home base. He’s now forced to go guerrilla.

I do feel that they skipped through a lot of things to get to the end of the season when they should have split it into two episodes.

As far as battling it out on the road, it may be fine in the movies but in the real world, a solid defensible base is the way to go as long as you can feed yourselves. Personally I’d clear and reinforce prison defenses. You could grow a fair amount of food on the grounds and crews would still need to go out for supplies which would provide action for the show.


6 posted on 04/01/2013 6:37:01 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: virgil283

The season finale was rather disappointing, lackluster, compared to the previous episode. It was as if the writers didn’t know where they wanted to go with the story line.


7 posted on 04/01/2013 6:38:17 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: virgil283

I thought this season was the worst out of all of them. I got that feeling when they started off with this whole commune/Governor stuff, I was like oh no...please don’t go there because I knew it was going to get lame, get really stupid, and it did. “Yes the insane cult leader that nobody ever kills even though they have 9 gabillion chances to do so”...And we are going to get this crap next season as well because of course -—he wasn’t killed!


8 posted on 04/01/2013 6:39:38 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: cripplecreek

Yep, would have liked a two hour finale but...
The gov guerrilla is an interesting idea and will see how it plays out with him on the move...kept wondering if Rick might shift everyone to Wppdbury at some point to survive easier but prison might work too. I see your tactical approach but remember there’s not an emphasis on reality on TV...if so, I think they should have found a boat!!!
Loved the Bible left behind with the quote high lighted...
And the gov throws it to the side...it’s those details that make this show great...


9 posted on 04/01/2013 6:43:26 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: virgil283

The comic book version of the governor was evil right from the beginning (at this point in the comic book Rick is missing a hand that was taken off by the governor).

The TV show started the governor out as a reasonable guy. Now he’s a grade-A psycho and a real evil guy.

Also, we were expecting a big battle, but if the writers had gone that way, it wouldn’t have been as satisfying as everyone thought it might be.

I like the direction they’re taking with the story.


10 posted on 04/01/2013 6:48:05 AM PDT by kidd
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
“Yes the insane cult leader that nobody ever kills even though they have 9 gabillion chances to do so”...

Agree. Andrea had at least 2 chances.

And there, on the road, as he slaughtered his 'army', the others just watched. The 2 survivors just got in the truck with him and drove away.

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That brings to mind Carl vs the Woodbury kid. Initially, that scene ended with an 'Ohhhhh????' However, later when Carl explained his rationale to Rick, it was very understandable why he did what he did. Carl seems to be a tough little guy who can make the 'hard decisions'. The little guy is growing up in a tough world. Recall that is was Rick who made the decision to bypass the backpacker a couple of episodes earlier, and later to back up the vehicle and pick up the discarded backpack.
11 posted on 04/01/2013 6:48:47 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: ConjunctionJunction

TWD ping


12 posted on 04/01/2013 6:55:03 AM PDT by virgil283 ( ... Mama say : if'n you can't say someting good don't say nutting...)
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To: matginzac

The governor knows Woodbury, he doesn’t know his way around the prison. The prison with enough defenders becomes a seriously strong defensive position that even women, children and elderly can help defend.

Personally I’d be out scouting around for construction materials like concrete blocks and steel. There should also be tank trucks sitting around full of gasoline and diesel. The governor left some serious weaponry on the road as well.


13 posted on 04/01/2013 6:55:07 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: virgil283

The Gov will find that other group that was in town when Doc was getting drunk. He will make friends with them and be back.


14 posted on 04/01/2013 6:55:12 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: TomGuy

Yeah I think Carl did the right thing because he told the kid to drop the gun and the kid wouldn’t, he held it out but he wouldn’t drop it, so he shot him rather than risk the chance that the kid would suddenly lift it up and use it. Yeah the governor shooting his people while every stood around and watched is another example how stupid this season was. This show seems to be turning into another Lost, just getting uber ridiculous.


15 posted on 04/01/2013 6:58:04 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: bmwcyle
The Gov will find that other group that was in town when Doc was getting drunk. He will make friends with them and be back.....Ha -that would be a terrible development. I was hoping to see Daryl ride in to Woodbury at the controls of that 50 cal........in a victory parade .....!!!
16 posted on 04/01/2013 7:01:05 AM PDT by virgil283 ( ... Mama say : if'n you can't say someting good don't say nutting...)
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To: virgil283

They are a group the writer has in reserve. He can bring them into the story anytime now.


17 posted on 04/01/2013 7:05:03 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
The Talking Dead had the evening poll of whether Carl should have killed the kid or taken him in. The poll was split 50-50.
18 posted on 04/01/2013 7:08:39 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: cripplecreek

Totally agree...
And it leads to the question: surviving this way, what kind of life do they lead in the long run? Do they face constant challenges from other survivors who come across the prison? Or do they live happily in their compound until natural death? For the sake of the show, I think it may be the former....


19 posted on 04/01/2013 7:21:37 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: virgil283

I’m actually fine with the way they ended the season. Even though we can’t wait to see the governor get his, David Morrissey plays the most excellent bad guy I have EVER seen. It’s like I told my husband: the only time I’ve seen more heinous villainy was the vampires in “30 Days of Night”, and not by much, either. So we still have him going forward, and meanwhile he continues to rack up debt that ensures the eventual payoff will be enormously satisfying.

I believe Carl did the right thing. The kid refused to drop his gun, and it looked to me like he was leaning in to grab Carl’s. But Carl’s attitude needs to be nipped in the bud.

Andrea....meh. I was much more upset for Milton.

The only nit I have to pick is about the bus full of Woodburians/Woodburyites. I really don’t want to see our group start a combination daycare/old folks’ home.


20 posted on 04/01/2013 7:25:36 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: virgil283

I think it was left purposely ambiguous whether the Woodbury kid was going to drop his gun or not, but there is no doubt Carl shot him because he was pissed that his own father hadn’t done enough to keep the group safe, and he wasn’t going to make the same mistake. I have quibbles with other parts of the finale—instead of using flash bangs to confuse the attackers, why didn’t the prison defenders just blow the hell out of them with real grenades—but the Carl situation sets up great conflict for next season.


21 posted on 04/01/2013 7:33:00 AM PDT by drjimmy
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To: drjimmy

Carl was angry that he was not part of the assault team - his commentary later had the feel of an after-the-fact justification for acting like a sulky 12-year-old.


22 posted on 04/01/2013 7:37:13 AM PDT by AzSteven ("War is less costly than servitude, the choice is always between Verdun and Dachau." Jean Dutourd)
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To: virgil283

Where’d the governor get a Steyr AUG? Have any of y’all ever handled one? I’ve only seen one once, and didn’t get a chance to hold it.


23 posted on 04/01/2013 7:37:25 AM PDT by real saxophonist ("Always Progressing and Not Fitting Neatly in a Box" - Tosin Abasi)
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To: matginzac

I would look at the prison as a place to begin rebuilding. I wouldn’t totally walk away from Woodbury either. Woodbury is already fortified and makes a natural place to expand to as the population grows.


24 posted on 04/01/2013 7:46:58 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: CatherineofAragon

My wife hated the Andrea character because her hair was always too perfect, her roots were not gray like all the other women, she was always wearing clean new clothes and she even had a pedicure last night.

Also, too much talking with Milton when she should have been picking up the pliers.

The bus load of Woodbury folks will be killed off one at a time probably over the course of next season.


25 posted on 04/01/2013 7:53:29 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: woodbutcher1963
Also, too much talking with Milton when she should have been picking up the pliers.

LOL I thought the same thing.
26 posted on 04/01/2013 8:10:57 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

The whole scene silly. Like a pair of pliers could break through the hardened steel of the chain on handcuffs.

It would have been much more interesting if he had left a hack saw.


27 posted on 04/01/2013 8:28:41 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: woodbutcher1963
When Andrea fired her revolver behind that closed door, did I hear a shell casing bounce across the floor?
28 posted on 04/01/2013 8:40:07 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: MileHi
"When Andrea fired her revolver behind that closed door, did I hear a shell casing bounce across the floor?"

You did, which raises interesting questions. Was that a technical error? Or was another gun involved and why?

29 posted on 04/01/2013 9:18:21 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: TomGuy
It was as if the writers didn’t know where they wanted to go with the story line.

I know some people who know some people on the show. Apparently the actors didn't like the way the finale was originally written and basically staged a revolt that got the show runner fired. They more or less dictated what this episode was going to be. Also, a great deal of "who lives and who dies" is dictated by AMC corporate.

30 posted on 04/01/2013 9:35:16 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: virgil283; Valpal1; APatientMan; CatherineofAragon; LibertarianLiz; Radagast the Fool; shotgun; ...

Walking Dead ping!

Please let me know if you would like on or off The Walking Dead ping list. Thanks for the ping, virgil283.


31 posted on 04/01/2013 9:36:03 AM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: MileHi
When Andrea fired her revolver behind that closed door, did I hear a shell casing bounce across the floor?

I'm not even a "gun nut," and I knew that was just wrong.
32 posted on 04/01/2013 9:39:20 AM PDT by drjimmy
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To: Truth29
Was that a technical error?

That was my guess.

33 posted on 04/01/2013 9:39:30 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: cripplecreek; woodbutcher1963
Also, too much talking with Milton when she should have been picking up the pliers.

"I can talk my way out of anything!" Typical lawyer. Good riddance, Andrea.

34 posted on 04/01/2013 9:41:28 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: Truth29
The sudden and weak retreat from the prison and the Governor's massacre on the highway were just not believable, too quick, and the camera work was not as shocking as in other episodes.

HALF Agreed. While the Governor's 'troops' were not, as he even observed, 'battle tested', a rout of this magnitude wasn't realistic. Plus, from the tombs to the outside in one easy door? I thought the tombs were DIFFICULT to get to.

I will take issue with the problem with the speed of the Governor snapping and killing pretty much everyone. That is in keeping with the TV Governors mercurial and unbalanced nature. My only complaint is that they left the shots showing the massacre largely unseen. All this money and NOW they skimp on squibs and bloodbags???

35 posted on 04/01/2013 9:41:33 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: Old Sarge

Well Andrea was a civil rights attorney.

I like Carol, she started weak but became strong.


36 posted on 04/01/2013 9:44:20 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: CatherineofAragon
I’m actually fine with the way they ended the season...Although this article asks some good questions, I'm not disappointed in this last episode. May be I'm slow but I didn't understand Andrea's carapace. First I was sorry for her, then aggravated, then I thought she was coming around, then disappointment again. So I thought the writing was uneven but the idea was to show her struggle with her dearly held ideology in the face of real world evil. Most shows like this by now turn into emotional dramas, so It looks like these writers are avoiding that and in the upcoming season will answer our second guessing.--- cheers...
37 posted on 04/01/2013 9:45:42 AM PDT by virgil283 ( ... Mama say : if'n you can't say someting good don't say nutting...)
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To: cripplecreek

I’m with you about Carol. I also like how Maggie became a badass, too. Even Beth got in a kill shot last night.

The ladies are coming into their own.


38 posted on 04/01/2013 9:49:08 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: drjimmy
LOL. My wheel gun never kicks out empties.
39 posted on 04/01/2013 9:50:25 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Old Sarge

I love the walking dead chicks, and I would hit each and every one of them (waiting for a year or so on Beth so she can be of-age).


40 posted on 04/01/2013 9:50:57 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: drjimmy; MileHi
When Andrea fired her revolver behind that closed door, did I hear a shell casing bounce across the floor?

I'm assuming that Andrea had only one bullet in the wheel, and had the presence of mind to empty that one casing, by snapping the wheel open, after she got done blowing her brains out.

You know, just a courtesy thing, so Rick didn't have to.

41 posted on 04/01/2013 9:52:41 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: virgil283

I don’t think he’s right. Merle’s attack definitely paid off, he took out the Governor’s seasoned fighters who wouldn’t have turned tail to run during the ambush, the prison defense would have failed if not for Merle.

And I think it’s good to not kill the Governor and bringing in the Woodbury people. I was actually thinking this season was going too fast, in the comics the Governor plot lasted 2 years, it had enough time for them to start growing crops in the prison yard, they actually looked like they were going to get a place to live. For the TV show the Governor conflict started right away, it didn’t have a lot of what made the prison interesting in the books. Now they’re setup to jump right into the good stuff of the prison AND the Governor is still a threat.


42 posted on 04/01/2013 9:53:54 AM PDT by discostu (Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
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To: virgil283
but I didn't understand Andrea's carapace... Andrea's 'CHARACTER'.........Dang spell check.....
43 posted on 04/01/2013 9:54:54 AM PDT by virgil283 ( ... Mama say : if'n you can't say someting good don't say nutting...)
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To: Lazamataz
I love the walking dead chicks, and I would hit each and every one of them (waiting for a year or so on Beth so she can be of-age).

Why wait? Time is short in the zombie apocalypse. BTW, the actress Emily Kinney, is over 21...

44 posted on 04/01/2013 9:56:53 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron. No, they are both.)
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To: bmwcyle

I hadn’t thought about that group. He’s definitely turned into a leader for a group of marauders now. I think you’ve got a good guess there.


45 posted on 04/01/2013 9:59:17 AM PDT by discostu (Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
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To: Lazamataz
You know, just a courtesy thing, so Rick didn't have to.

Thinkin' of the collective to the bitter end...

46 posted on 04/01/2013 10:01:13 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: virgil283
but I didn't understand Andrea's carapace... Andrea's 'CHARACTER'.........Dang spell check..... MAYBE THE COMPUTER IS RIGHT AFTER ALL... Definition of CARAPACE. 1: a bony or chitinous case or shield covering the back or part of the back of an animal (as a turtle or crab) 2: a protective, decorative
47 posted on 04/01/2013 10:01:29 AM PDT by virgil283 ( ... Mama say : if'n you can't say someting good don't say nutting...)
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To: MileHi

She just couldn’t shake her liberalism, and in the end, it killed her.


48 posted on 04/01/2013 10:02:13 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: virgil283

49 posted on 04/01/2013 10:04:10 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: virgil283

glad andrea is gone. thought it was a good ironic touch that he used Milton to do it. though she had her feet free, she could have kicked milton back a few times to finish freeing her other hand. if her legs worked wel enough to get the pliers they could have kicked a less than agile walker back a few times.


50 posted on 04/01/2013 10:25:10 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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