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Boyscouts outfits and camping supplies needed
04/01/13 | trussell

Posted on 04/01/2013 10:30:23 AM PDT by trussell

My 13 year old son just joined boy scouts. He would like to go to the camping trip next weekend and only has one outfit that is loaned to him.

He needs shorts (at least 3 pair needed), shirts (they would like him to have 3 or 4 more), pants (same as shirts, 3 or 4 more, boy scout approved socks (several pair).

He wears an 18 husky pant or 36/29 through 36/32. Shirts are XL youth to Medium adult. The troop will allow either the green BOA socks or black socks.

Also, any camping items that he will need. He has the toiletries. a sleeping pad and a canteen...but no sleeping bag or any of the other items on the camping list.

I'm not rich by any means, I've recently had back surgery and am unemployed. If you have it, and it's taking up space you want to clear out, please...consider helping my son.


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He is so excited to be a part of this organization. He went to a meeting with a friend and they told him if he wants to join but money is a factor, don't let that stop him as he can participate in fundraisers to earn money. Unfortunately, that is for the dues and camping trip fees, not for the clothing he needs to comply with org rules.

Also, please keep in mind that the homosexual stuff about the boyscouts isn't about the boys...my son is being brought up to be a good Christian follower. He knows that is wrong and would report any instance immediately! There are NO homosexual people involved in his troop!

1 posted on 04/01/2013 10:30:23 AM PDT by trussell
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To: All

I guess I should add that we are in Georgia, very near Savannah. Please, if you are aware of anyone who could help, please ping them...or ping your lists if you feel this is worthy of a ping.

God bless!


2 posted on 04/01/2013 10:31:52 AM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: trussell

Do you have freecycle in your area? It is an online group where you can ask for or give stuff away.


3 posted on 04/01/2013 10:38:22 AM PDT by call meVeronica
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Did you talk to the scoutmaster of the troop? He would know where you could find some used stuff.

There are past Eagles who are no longer using their stuff, and he would know who to call.

Offer to pay what you can for them.

4 posted on 04/01/2013 10:38:29 AM PDT by Slyfox (The Key to Marxism is Medicine ~ Vladimir Lenin)
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To: trussell

I know that the scout uniforms are not cheap, and you don’t just need an item or two but multiple items. I suggest you contact your area council and see if they can help you.


5 posted on 04/01/2013 10:38:30 AM PDT by Nevadan
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To: trussell

In my son’s troop, older/larger boys are the best source for clothing. They outgrow things and pass them along to the smaller kids.


6 posted on 04/01/2013 10:39:09 AM PDT by Rio (Tempis Fugit.)
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7 posted on 04/01/2013 10:42:32 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: trussell

Contact his scoutmaster and explain your situation. The scoutmaster should be able to put you in touch with resources to help you out.


8 posted on 04/01/2013 10:44:11 AM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: trussell

9 posted on 04/01/2013 10:44:25 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: ConjunctionJunction

Note that sometimes the chartering organization will help out. The original poster should mention that to the SM when you call him for ideas. HTH.

FRegards,
PrairieDawg (former SM)


10 posted on 04/01/2013 11:11:39 AM PDT by PrairieDawg
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To: trussell

Hint:
Buy 2 pair of whatever and learn how to do laundry.

They grow fast during those years.


11 posted on 04/01/2013 11:12:01 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: trussell

I’m nowhere near you, nor do I have boys, but I have a grandson that is a Webelo now so I understand how pricy it can get!

I would suggest Craigslist - just the Community tab. There are plenty of good people that use Craigslist that I bet would be willing to help out. If they want to arrange a pick up of stuff, I’d suggest meeting them in a public location, but I’ve never had a problem using CL.

The other thing I’d try is the scoutmaster. I bet he could help or put you in touch with help. Good luck to you and your son!


12 posted on 04/01/2013 11:19:42 AM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: trussell

This is boy scouts we’re talking about not a fashion show. One uni is more than enough for a weekend trip. My son has been on more than a few week long outings and always brought home more unworn stuff than worn. An extra shirt, socks and skivvies is plenty for a weekend. Check ebay for your future needs but don’t a bunch as they don’t stay in one size too long at that age.


13 posted on 04/01/2013 11:21:17 AM PDT by WinMod70
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To: call meVeronica

I’ve not heard of it. I will search it and see if anything comes up.


14 posted on 04/01/2013 11:27:13 AM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: Slyfox

The scoutmaster has given him the one loaned uniform. It’s the only one they had in his size. They said to check the thrift stores, but they charge 4 or 5 dollars minimum for clothing, and that’s steeper than I can do.

They said they would put out a plea for used items again, but that will not go out in time for him to go to this campout.


15 posted on 04/01/2013 11:31:31 AM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: trussell

The other thing that may help is to post this on the GA FReepers board. Hopefully someone nearby may have some equipment or clothing.


16 posted on 04/01/2013 11:31:45 AM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: Nevadan

They are trying, but they don’t have more in his size...they are the ones who gave him the one loaned uniform he has now.


17 posted on 04/01/2013 11:32:31 AM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: trussell

His pack should have everything he needs. If they are unwilling to help you, find anoter pack. Boy Scouts always help each other out- and don’t turn boys away because of money.


18 posted on 04/01/2013 11:33:51 AM PDT by Truth2012
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To: Yosemitest

They are sold out in his size and the next size up is $25 per pair...I’m afraid that is out of my range. :(


19 posted on 04/01/2013 11:34:50 AM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: trussell

My boy’s scout troop here in Michigan maintains a “Troop Closet” of used scout clothing. Parents make requests and the closet is searched for matching items. Scouts are encouraged to give items they have outgrown to the “closet” so that others may benefit.

Bring this idea up at your next committee meeting.

Also, virtually all the parents in our troop troll yard sales and flea markets, and routinely grab any scout related items that are cheap, to shove into the closet.


20 posted on 04/01/2013 11:34:51 AM PDT by Rebel_Ace (Tags?!? Tags?!? We don' neeeed no stinkin' Tags!)
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To: trussell

The scouts need to wear the uniform when they travel in order to be insured on the trip.

My son was in a fairly large troop, and some of the mom’s organized a annual uniform shop - outgrown uniforms were donated and sold for a small amount that went to the troop.

Check with the scoutmaster.


21 posted on 04/01/2013 11:38:06 AM PDT by calico_thompson
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I see most answers saying to talk to the Scout master and search the troop closet. That has already been done and they had (1) one uniform in his size. They are going to try to find more by putting out a plea in the next newsletter...though that will not help for this trip.

I will try to answer the other suggestions individually


22 posted on 04/01/2013 11:41:07 AM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: Yosemitest

again, did you see the price? I am unemployed and have no income...I may be able to scrounge up a couple dollars, but that isn’t even guaranteed!


23 posted on 04/01/2013 11:42:37 AM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: trussell

Should the national organization allow gay leaders, I’m sure there will be a whole lot of used Boy Scout gear hitting the market.


24 posted on 04/01/2013 11:45:53 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: G Larry

I was told by the scout leader yesterday that he would need to have 3 pair of shorts, 3 to 5 scout t-shirts, 3 formal B.S. shirts, and 3 to 5 pair of B.S. approved socks. If laundry facilities were available, my son would be happy to do it that way as he knows how to do laundry...but that’s not an option available to him.


25 posted on 04/01/2013 11:46:24 AM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: leapfrog0202

Thank you for the suggestion. I have posted on C.L the same as I have here...no replies as of yet.


26 posted on 04/01/2013 11:47:19 AM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: WinMod70

The troop leader made it clear yesterday that if he wanted to go, he would have to have more than the one outfit. If he could get by with one “uni”, believe me...I would truly be appreciative, but that is not an option. They said he couldn’t go unless he had the proper wear and gear.


27 posted on 04/01/2013 11:49:35 AM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: trussell

Comment 9 takes you to a list that you have to click on the item to view details.


28 posted on 04/01/2013 11:51:39 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Truth2012

They are trying to help, but they have provided the only uniform in his size they had, and he can’t “find another troop” as I rely on the mother of the boy who got him interested in the first place to get him to meetings and outings as I don’t have a job, and no job means no gas in the car. :(


29 posted on 04/01/2013 11:52:17 AM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: trussell
Comment #7 takes you to $19.99 with free shipping.
But keep looking on e-bay. Every day people are adding new items to the list.
30 posted on 04/01/2013 11:54:03 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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I think this may be the time to have a talk with your son and tell him that he can not go on this trip, but the two of you need to come up with some ideas to earn the money to pay for some used uniforms. He is a 13 yr old “young man” and I am sure there are jobs that he can do to raise some cash for his activities.


31 posted on 04/01/2013 11:56:03 AM PDT by happyhomemaker (Rejoice in hope, be patient in tribulation, be constant in prayer. Rom 12:12)
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To: Rebel_Ace

I will surely join the ranks of the people who troll yard sales for uniforms when I get a job...at this point, I have no job and am in therapy for a back surgery that has all but put in in a chair. The pain increases, the doc has cut my pain management, and the stand-in therapist had me doing exercises that are way beyond my abilities. I am laid up now, and hoping my true therapist can fix this on Wednesday.

Anyway, as I said up-thread...the troop closet had one uniform that fit him, they are going to put out a plea for more donations of used and outgrown uniforms...but that won’t happen in time for this camping trip.


32 posted on 04/01/2013 11:58:47 AM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: calico_thompson

Already have checked with the scoutmaster, that is who loaned him the uniform he has. That was the only one in my son’s size they had.


33 posted on 04/01/2013 12:00:12 PM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: Last Dakotan
Should the national organization allow gay leaders, I’m sure there will be a whole lot of used Boy Scout gear hitting the market.

As I said in the first comment

Also, please keep in mind that the homosexual stuff about the boyscouts isn't about the boys...my son is being brought up to be a good Christian follower. He knows that is wrong and would report any instance immediately! There are NO homosexual people involved in his troop!

34 posted on 04/01/2013 12:03:19 PM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: trussell

You need a sewing machine


35 posted on 04/01/2013 12:06:47 PM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: Yosemitest

It also shows the prices of the items before you click...those are very much out of my range. But I truly appreciate the attempt to help me find what he needs to participate.


36 posted on 04/01/2013 12:06:55 PM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: Yosemitest

19.99 is for the smaller sizes...for his size they were sold out, and for the next size up the price was 24.99


37 posted on 04/01/2013 12:08:09 PM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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Maybe not in time for this trip but spring is the time lots of people like to clear out their “stuff”. Help your son make up a flyer and post on craigslist thathe is willing to pick up stuff to do a garage sale to raise money for his Boy Scout activities. You can post the garage sale on craigslist for free. I am sure there is a neighbor with a truck or car that can help him pick up the donated items. The truth is that most people are turned off by begging so if they see a kid who is actually working for his money they will probably be more than willing to help.


38 posted on 04/01/2013 12:09:08 PM PDT by happyhomemaker (Rejoice in hope, be patient in tribulation, be constant in prayer. Rom 12:12)
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Unfortunately, we live in a more “country” style area...our very small community in the subdivision we live in has professional mowers that take care of most of the lots and he is not allowed to go inside the homes of strangers to do other tasks. If there were a way for him to raise more funds for used uniforms (that don’t seem to exist in the area) he would be doing all possible to earn it...and I’m trying to find former scouts that might have uniform parts that would fit him by posting this. Should I break his heart again, or should I try like I am to help him get what he needs to make the camp trip?


39 posted on 04/01/2013 12:15:16 PM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: stuartcr

I have one, but unfortunately all the uniforms in the troop closet are too small, not too big...therefore, they don’t have the extra yardage to make them where they will fit him. Also, the scouts are very picky about the boys and their uniforms...making a uniform out of a bolt of cloth is not usually acceptable, since I don’t have the pattern to make it correctly, nor the ability to purchase the bolt of cloth in the first place.


40 posted on 04/01/2013 12:18:49 PM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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Truthfully you seem to be making excuses. I am sure there are some members of your church that are not strangers who have some jobs he can do to raise his own money. As far as “breaking his heart” that is just nonsense. It is not like he has been part of Scouting for years and now is forced to miss a trip. Actually he now has a goal to go towards. There is great dignity in paying your own way and 13 is not to early to start


41 posted on 04/01/2013 12:30:50 PM PDT by happyhomemaker (Rejoice in hope, be patient in tribulation, be constant in prayer. Rom 12:12)
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I’ve read through the 38 comments in the forum at the time I started writing this response so I am fully conversant with the various suggestions (all good except for those overlooking your financial circumstances), your responses/requirements, and the stated troop requirements. I will be responding from the point of view of being an adult Scouter for over 15 years in various leadership positions and the father of an Eagle Scout.

First, I find the “clothing requirements” from the troop to be way out of line for a weekend camping activity. Every troop does things a little differently but making sure everybody who could would be able to participate was priority #1 for our troop in central OK. Travelling in uniform was a unit requirement (don’t know about that insurance thing, could be new since I left) but uniform shirts were put away for most of the weekend until it was time to return home. Troop t-shirts were encouraged while official Scout pants/shorts were not a requirement, even when travelling — just wear pants of some kind and be legal in public.

Second, the comments from those about your son earning funds for the uniform are totally in line with Scouting principles that were in place in the 1960s when I became a Cub Scout. He may have to miss this weekend activity but there will be plenty more opportunities.

Our troop was in a suburban community with varying income levels and everybody had an appreciation for the cost of buying uniforms so the unit leadership tried to keep the wear/tear minimized. Just a new short sleeve shirt with the required patches would be nearly $30 and that was in the 90s. Full uniforms, bought new, were rare on most boys except for those that could get some from the unit closet or yard sales. Not even all of the leaders had full uniforms with all official BSA gear.

If this unit’s leadership values looks over participation, I’d say you should search out another unit. Call the local council and ask to speak to the District Executive for that district to discuss options.

This unit has every right to run as they see fit under their chartering organization and troop committee. I just believe they’ve misplaced their priorities. JMO, YMMV...


42 posted on 04/01/2013 12:35:58 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: trussell

That’s unfortunate


43 posted on 04/01/2013 12:44:17 PM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: T-Bird45
Many years with Scouts and still involved.
Uniform list sounds like for a summer camp of a week.
Weekend list would be uniform for travel and change to appropriate gear T-shirt or foul/cold weather gear.
Have to agree with T-Bird45 - if this is uniform for weekend then perhaps a less high dress troop would be more fitting and for that check with Scouting HQ for suggestions.
There are all levels of Troops. Find the one that fits you best. Going from Webelos they have to visit at least 3 Troops to see the difference before choosing.
Interesting handle T-bird45.
44 posted on 04/01/2013 1:01:38 PM PDT by tbird-james
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He has participated in EVERY sales event held by the troop since he joined about 6 or 7 weeks ago. They have done something nearly every weekend with exception of the last camp outing he had to miss. That is how they are expected to raise money for the camp trips. Still held as they have been for decades.

As for “breaking his heart”, this is something he has wanted since he was about 5 years old...and this was the first time he was told he could join even if money was an issue. He is a hard worker and does MUCH MORE than he should considering he has Juvenile Rheumatoid Arthritis and Lymes disease that the doctors tell him is permanent. He works hard around the house as well as for the troop and for the church. He is an A/B honor roll student and is involved in Advanced Placement (AP) classes in the 6th grade.

So, HHM...I’m not making excuses, he has a full plate, and I’m just trying to help him get uniforms so he can attend a camp outing and get some benefit for his hard work.

And T-bird, I appreciate your comments also, especially coming from someone with experience in the topic. I am not sure how other troops in the area conduct themselves in regards to clothing requirements for campouts, but this is the only troop I am aware of in our area as it was another scout that invited my son to attend a meeting where we found out he could go without it costing me for his dues and fees. They thought they might have more uniforms in the troop closet that would fit him, they were wrong. The lady who told me I would have to have 3 pair of troop approved shorts as well as the t-shirts and formal troop shirts and approved socks is the mother of another scout. She is quite bossy and very strict...but I guess her word is “gospel” in RE: the campouts.


45 posted on 04/01/2013 1:03:22 PM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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That is a week long camping pack list, not a weekend trip
Do not succumb weakly to a “bossy” Mom
Talk to other parents about what the boys actually wear on a weekender camp trip
My bet is 2 outfits max, and that is if someone makes them change clothes

Also send a letter to the District about how your boy missed a WEEKEND camping trip because he didn't have 3 uniforms and uniforms socks and as an unemployed parent, you need a more inclusive and thrifty troop

Meanwhile your kid needs to get a JOB to pay for his supplies - pet sitting, plant sitting, light spring clean up yard work, making and selling rope woggles to sell at craft fairs or .....

46 posted on 04/01/2013 1:18:09 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: silverleaf

Thank you for the advice about the “bossy” mom. She is exactly that! She says she has uniforms for EVERY DAY of the trip and she expects the others to also. I will have to find out who the district contact is and make friends with them so maybe they can help with what he needs. Thank you so much again!


47 posted on 04/01/2013 2:13:14 PM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: trussell

If you are so new to the troop I would be careful about narking on the “bossy mom” You have already made it clear that you are unable to help the troop. In most cases the “bossy mom” is actually the one who steps up and pulls things together and covers for all the other parents who can’t help or just plain don’t want to. If it wasn’t for bossy moms most of these programs would fall apart. Personally I think you should figure out a way to offer something on your end... like maybe altering uniforms or sewing on patches before you alienate your kid.


48 posted on 04/01/2013 3:41:16 PM PDT by happyhomemaker (Rejoice in hope, be patient in tribulation, be constant in prayer. Rom 12:12)
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To: trussell

Would the SM let you have a phone or email list so you could send out your own plea before the camping trip? The newsletter is a pretty out of date concept these days.


49 posted on 04/01/2013 3:49:27 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: happyhomemaker

You sound like you could probably be the “bossy mom” figure in your hometown...as your posts sound very judgemental. I help when I can, I have gone with my son while he walks the neighborhood trying to sell camp cards, even though the walking hurts like crazy due to a botched back surgery. I have been in constant pain since the surgery in November and for the prior 2 1/2 years waiting for something to be done.

I sat for over 5 hours in front of a store this weekend while my son participated in selling camp cards. I have helped when able, I just dont have reliable transportation to get far or to go every time.

I’m not a seamstress, I can work a sewing machine...but I don’t believe I am good enough that I could alter clothing for the troop. So, are you done judging me and willing to offer suggestions that will help or can you find the door?


50 posted on 04/01/2013 4:01:19 PM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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