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(Hmmmmmm ...) The Walking Dead Is All About Blood, Gore & Gun Control
The Guardian ^ | Monday 1 April 2013 | Alan Yuhas

Posted on 04/01/2013 2:33:47 PM PDT by DogByte6RER

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The Walking Dead is all about blood, gore – and gun control

• Despite its violence, The Walking Dead mirrors moderate US attitudes on gun ownership and background checks

The Walking Dead finished its third season in a flourish of gunfire and guts, sticking to the pillars of its ratings dominance. While nobody's much surprised by the extreme bloodiness of a show that merges two violent genres – post-apocalyptic horror and the classic western, – what is surprising is that The Walking Dead actually reflects moderate, popular US views on gun control.

That might seem like a ridiculous statement for a show this steeped in gore, but if we trace its use of guns, it becomes clear that the show emphasizes an odd, very American mix of conservative pragmatism and liberal concern about restraints and leadership. (No major spoilers follow.)

The first season of The Walking Dead is almost purely survival thriller. The stragglers, led by a sheriff named Rick, only care about guns as a matter of self-defense. They use plenty of them, but also whatever's at hand. In fact, after two and a half seasons, guns only account for slightly more than half of the show's violence. Characters have killed zombies with a car door, an internet cable, a sword and a chair leg, not to mention the crossbow preferred by the show's most popular character. What's to learn from all this? A clear and present need for self-defense justifies violence, and you can use just about anything to kill a zombie.

Season two slows things down. Amid a lot of hand wringing and hammy conversations, the characters sort out how to live when survival isn't a constant concern.

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KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; gunsandammo; secondamendment; selfdefense; thewalkingdead; undead; walkingdead; zday; zombie; zombieapocalypse; zombies
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1 posted on 04/01/2013 2:33:47 PM PDT by DogByte6RER
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The Colt Python's capabilities

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2 posted on 04/01/2013 2:35:08 PM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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3 posted on 04/01/2013 2:36:02 PM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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4 posted on 04/01/2013 2:36:30 PM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

Fact is right now most murders in the US are not by guns.


5 posted on 04/01/2013 2:37:17 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: DogByte6RER; ConjunctionJunction

My favorite comment:

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@alexito - I think if zobies rise up, you’ll be able to forgo background checks....
I think we’ll be buggered in england, though, we’ll have to use spud guns


6 posted on 04/01/2013 2:38:51 PM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron. No, they are both.)
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To: DogByte6RER

I’ve always been saddened by any picture or mention of the Colt Python. I owned a beautiful one, which I worked and saved for back in the early 70’s, but I got desperately broke once in the late 70’s and pawned it for $150. It hurts me to this day.


7 posted on 04/01/2013 2:46:45 PM PDT by VR-21 (I'm weary of being lorded over by criminals and gilded degenerates.)
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To: DogByte6RER
They use plenty of them, but also whatever's at hand. In fact, after two and a half seasons, guns only account for slightly more than half of the show's violence. Characters have killed zombies with a car door, an internet cable, a sword and a chair leg, not to mention the crossbow preferred by the show's most popular character. What's to learn from all this? A clear and present need for self-defense justifies violence, and you can use just about anything to kill a zombie.

Actually, the show is clear that a gun is a last resort because the noise attracts zombies. Carl has a homemade silencer on his.
8 posted on 04/01/2013 2:52:03 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: DogByte6RER

No matter what a viewer’s politics are, this show certainly reinforces the desire to be well armed and prepared. I don’t know anyone who would watch this show and think, “Gee, I don’t want to have a gun if zombies rise or something much more likely, social breakdown, were to happen.”


9 posted on 04/01/2013 2:52:17 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: VR-21

The Civil rights lawyer probalby got more people killed than any other charter. By both action and inaction. For the best of reasons to be sure but... still there it is.


10 posted on 04/01/2013 2:54:08 PM PDT by Bidimus1
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To: cripplecreek
Carl has a homemade silencer on his.

Any zombies who are former BATFE probably have Carl at the top of their dinner menu for that. Homemade silencers are a felony.

11 posted on 04/01/2013 2:56:43 PM PDT by Pollster1
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To: cripplecreek

The sooner you attract them, the sooner you clean them out.

Have a high, secure perch, and boxes and boxes of ammo.

Or set a trap, perhaps with pits full of gasoline.

Free men are the hunters, not the hunted - a paradigm not appreciated by Hollywood.


12 posted on 04/01/2013 3:01:22 PM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: LucianOfSamasota
Have a high, secure perch, and boxes and boxes of ammo.

Unfortunately the world of zombies is an imperfect one. In fact when they found the prison they were very low on ammo and had to clear the place without guns.
13 posted on 04/01/2013 3:04:37 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

DIY crossbows made from auto leaf springs should become pretty popular as ammo runs dry (in 40 years or so) in the show


14 posted on 04/01/2013 3:06:21 PM PDT by Bidimus1
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To: Pollster1

Carl has a homemade silencer on his.

Any zombies who are former BATFE probably have Carl at the top of their dinner menu for that. Homemade silencers are a felony.


Carl would take them out first.

And he doesn’t care if his silencer is a “felony”.
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15 posted on 04/01/2013 3:06:42 PM PDT by laplata (The Answer To 1984 Is 1776)
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To: LucianOfSamasota
Have a high, secure perch, and boxes and boxes of ammo.

The problem on the show is that the amount of ammo is finite and in demand.

You keep shooting, the zombies keep coming, and sooner or later, you're screwed.

One on one, they are very easy to kill with lawn care or home repair equipment. But you don't want a lot of them around.

Oh, and there really isn't any gun control message in the show, other than maybe, "guns good."

16 posted on 04/01/2013 3:06:52 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: DogByte6RER

A zombie apocalypse is the exact opposite of a pro gun-control message ;P


17 posted on 04/01/2013 3:14:54 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Problem is when you attract them they show up at their pace. Maybe they’re a mile away. That was the lesson of the end of season 2, the herd was missing the farm then Rick shot Shane and the herd changed directions. Shoot one zombie now, put of with three zombies later; stab a zombie now maybe maybe none later.


18 posted on 04/01/2013 3:18:36 PM PDT by discostu (Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
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To: VR-21
Colt Python 6 Barrel 3 My father has a nickel-plated .357 with a 3" barrel. It feels and handles like a Cadillac in your hand.
19 posted on 04/01/2013 3:30:20 PM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: discostu

Rick stabbed him, Carl shot him.


20 posted on 04/01/2013 3:42:43 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: DogByte6RER
"It feels and handles like a Cadillac in your hand."

At the very least. I don't think it's possible to describe how silky smooth their actions were to someone who never handled one.

21 posted on 04/01/2013 3:53:09 PM PDT by VR-21 (I'm weary of being lorded over by criminals and gilded degenerates.)
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To: DogByte6RER

As much as I enjoy the show, I could never understand why no one would don body armor. If you’re out of ammo they can’t bite thruogh it.


22 posted on 04/01/2013 3:57:36 PM PDT by Sparky21555
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To: Sparky21555

thruogh=through


23 posted on 04/01/2013 3:59:48 PM PDT by Sparky21555
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To: DogByte6RER

They use clubs, swords and knives because they are short on ammo. Evidently Obama got his way before the Apocalypse hit town.


24 posted on 04/01/2013 4:03:57 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: DogByte6RER

The articles is a mess. It jumps all over the place.

The title says its all about “gun control”...but the article does not make it clear that WD depicts that as a good thing or a bad thing.

I think the purpose of the article is to allow author Alan Yuhas to meet a deadline, even though he stayed up to watch television.


25 posted on 04/01/2013 4:05:27 PM PDT by kidd
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To: jwalsh07

PS; There’s a lesson there and it’s 180 degrees out from Governor Malloy’s statement that a thousand rounds is outrageous to keep in the home.


26 posted on 04/01/2013 4:06:27 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
They use clubs, swords and knives because they are short on ammo.

I never got that. If you get bit or eaten by a zombie you turn into one.* If you get zombie blood and guts on your open wounds wouldn't that also turn you into one? So wouldn't you be careful about all the splatter?

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* I know they changed that, but for simplicity's sake, that's how I think of it.

27 posted on 04/01/2013 4:10:31 PM PDT by x
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To: DogByte6RER

“The Walking Dead” is a metaphor for Ubama’s economy.


28 posted on 04/01/2013 4:15:41 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: x

In the show, everyone is infected with the “zombie virus” and will turn into a zombie automatically upon death, regardless of cause.


29 posted on 04/01/2013 4:15:53 PM PDT by hsrazorback1 (Seek truth.)
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To: x

Best I can tell you become a zombie when you die. The walker virus is not transmittable by a bite, it is simply inherent to every living human being with air being the vector. The damage from Zombie bites is that they haven’t seen Crest or Ivory Soap in a long time making the bacteria in their mouths virulent. Hence, amputate or die and when you die you Zombie up. At least that is my understanding from watching the show. :-}


30 posted on 04/01/2013 4:22:20 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07

And I do like the show. My wife wonders why a good conservative Catholic like myself only watches two shows, Walking Dead and Sons of Anarchy neither of which she deems has any social redeeming quality. I agree with that and love my wife but I like those shows. And I don’t try to figure out why.


31 posted on 04/01/2013 4:25:53 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07; hsrazorback1

Okay, thanks.


32 posted on 04/01/2013 4:27:31 PM PDT by x
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To: virgil283; Valpal1; APatientMan; CatherineofAragon; LibertarianLiz; Radagast the Fool; shotgun; ...

Walking Dead ping!

Please let me know if you would like on or off The Walking Dead ping list.


33 posted on 04/01/2013 4:35:22 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: VR-21

Still plenty available on the second-hand market, many of them in mint condition with box and papers as they came from the factory.

Of course, nowadays you’ll pay a good deal more than $150.00 bucks for ‘em.


34 posted on 04/01/2013 4:44:42 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: DogByte6RER
About the Colt Python:
Do you know if the name “Python” is on the gun somewhere?

My husband had a Colt revolver when I married him and I don't know how long he had it but I think a long time. The last time I shot it was in 1990 at a range with 38 cartridges in it. After that it was loaded by a friend with buckshot for the first shot and hollow points after that and has stayed in the drawer of my bed side table.

About two months ago, I removed it from the drawer and it's on top of my bed side table for quick access, however, I was shocked how my memory of this gun was wrong when I took it out of the drawer. It is very heavy, no one is going to use this as a carry gun unless it's in a holster around the hip due to the weight, and I just now measured the barrel and measured from the tip of the barrel back to the end of the cylinder and it's four inches. If I stop before I get to the cylinder, it's a little over three inches. This looks like a heavy duty, I will kill you shoot out, western type gun.

There are numbers on the barrel that I can't make out and can't tell if something is spelled out on there but I think it's just numbers but there is a lot of them, so there could be more than numbers.

The grip is in good condition, a tanish/brown color but looks really old. My husband was an ex marine and a true sharp shooter and he would hit anything he aimed at and he definitely knew guns. I also have a revolutionary war or civil war long rifle that uses cap and ball, it's a Springfield in perfect condition. You see what I mean about his knowing guns.

I wonder if this Colt is a Python? There is a large shooting range with store here and I would bet there is a gunsmith there. I need to take this Colt there and have it cleaned and new ammo put in it and find out what the gun actually is. It is just too heavy for a today's carry gun.

I have a new Ruger 38 special revolver, barely has a barrel and it's like a feather compared to this Colt which is why I bought the Ruger and to have one downstairs.

Having seen the pictures of the Python, I don't know what kind of Colt I have.

35 posted on 04/01/2013 4:46:04 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: DogByte6RER

OK, I see a picture of one now on the thread and Python IS on the barrel.


36 posted on 04/01/2013 4:54:25 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Sparky21555

Glenn and Maggie FINALLY did in last night’s finale, although I think it was the prison guards’ riot gear. I have been thinking the same thing.


37 posted on 04/01/2013 5:05:14 PM PDT by cld51860 (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: DogByte6RER

they are trying to conserve ammo... in case you know the ammo supply starts drying up due to some Evil government trying to buy up all the production.....oh wait!


38 posted on 04/01/2013 5:11:15 PM PDT by Daryl Dixson (7.62 x 51 Diplomacy)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I met someone at a trade show in January who was embarrassed to admit living down the road from where Waking Dead is filmed. I told her I see it as an allegory about the collapse of the urban welfare state, which seemed to brighten her spirits a bit. Next thing she’s talking about getting her concealed carry permit, not that it would be a concern if conditions deteriorated to that extent.
39 posted on 04/01/2013 5:18:30 PM PDT by kitchen (Due to the increased price of ammo, do not expect a warning shot.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Fact is right now most murders in the US are not by guns.

Well, no. About 2/3 of US murders are with guns.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004888.html

40 posted on 04/01/2013 5:24:21 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: dead

I like the show but I agree with you on the ridiculousness of low ammo and the scarcity of guns. Maybe if the story was taking place in England then maybe that story line would fly, but not in the US and definately not in the South.

When most of the population is zombies guns would be easy to find.


41 posted on 04/01/2013 5:24:34 PM PDT by ScubieNuc (When there is no justice in the laws, justice is left to the outlaws.)
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To: ScubieNuc

The trouble is getting out and finding it. People don’t have the luxury of window shopping. And after a year or two when people have raided all of the stores and not used their ammo wisely - it’s going to get harder and harder.


42 posted on 04/01/2013 5:37:14 PM PDT by TightyRighty (I enjoy well-mannered frivolity.)
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To: DogByte6RER

This is why I love this show because it is so 2nd Amendment for self defense. However the show does show what happens to abuse of power like the governor.

The zombies represents society when it falls and the rules of law are out.

Maybe I maybe wrong here but the Walking Dead, Sons of Anarchy, and even Revolution TV show is a metaphor of fighting back Tyranny from those that wish to oppress.

Also what is cool, looks like CROSSBOWS are making a comeback because not just Darryl (TWD) but folks in Revolution are using them.


43 posted on 04/01/2013 5:47:31 PM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: kitchen
I see it as an allegory about the collapse of the urban welfare state...

...and the official end of affirmative action.

44 posted on 04/01/2013 6:20:52 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: TightyRighty; All
“The trouble is getting out and finding it. People don’t have the luxury of window shopping. And after a year or two when people have raided all of the stores and not used their ammo wisely - it’s going to get harder and harder.”

I guess the question would be “what is the ratio of zombies to healthy humans?

One box of Walmart .22 is 500 rounds. Zombies seem to move slowly. With a .22 rifle and scope, you can easily make headshots at 50 yards, and .22 silencers are easy to make.

I would think a zombie hunting party could take down thousands relatively easily, and once you clear off a fair sized island, where are more zombies going to come from?

It also seems that there would be lots of boats available that you could live on safely.

I have never heard of zombies swimming.

I agree, it is a fantasy about warfare where the enemy is numerous but stupid and armed with primitive weapons. Kind of a gamer Valhalla.

45 posted on 04/01/2013 8:06:59 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
...and the official end of affirmative action.

If that's what it takes, bring it on.

46 posted on 04/02/2013 3:22:12 PM PDT by kitchen (Due to the increased price of ammo, do not expect a warning shot.)
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