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Vanity - Question about Newtown

Posted on 04/02/2013 1:56:00 PM PDT by Perdogg

Not a conspiracy theory - If Lanza fired 154 rounds from his bushmaster and they found 3 empty 30-round magazines, so that is 3 X 30 = 90.

The magazine he had when he killed himself had 15 rounds, so assuming he shot an additional 15 rounds that would be 90 + 15 = 105 rounds.

Where did the other 49 (154-105) rounds come from?


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1 posted on 04/02/2013 1:56:00 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

A Math witch!! You will cause a panic with your dark cyphering arts. They told us all we need to know.


2 posted on 04/02/2013 1:58:02 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Perdogg

I recently read an article indicating the same thing; that Lanza had three 30 round magazines for the Bushmaster, and that was the only weapon used against those he killed. That article stated an amount of rounds being fired that was far above the 90 held by the three magazines. I also have questions on how Lanza could have fired more rounds than he had capacity for?


3 posted on 04/02/2013 2:02:16 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: Perdogg

Finally, someone said it. I notice this days ago.


4 posted on 04/02/2013 2:06:38 PM PDT by Selene
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To: Perdogg

You assume the media was accurate in how many magazines were found. This is the same media that first said they found an AR in his trunk when the video obviously showed a shotgun. Also the gun he killed himself with was a handgun with the 15 round mag. It could be they found 3 30 round AR mags separate from the gun and a 60 or drum mag in the gun for all we know.


5 posted on 04/02/2013 2:08:56 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Perdogg
I've read different reports, and the discrepancy may be simply a matter of semantics.

From one source: Lanza had 10 30-round magazines. Some of those magazines were found to be only partially empty. Maybe there were only three empty ones?

Lanza was an avid FPS (first person shooter) gamer. He would have quickly learned to reload at every opportunity, and not wait until a magazine was empty.

However, in many FPS's, reloading a partially empty magazine doesn't discard the remaining rounds. For instance, if you have 10 rounds remaining in a 30-round magazine and 60 rounds in reserve, reloading would "top off" the magazine to 30 rounds and only subtract 20 from the reserve. The animation depicts simply swapping magazines, but the effect is the more time consuming task of filling the existing magazine with more rounds.

6 posted on 04/02/2013 2:09:48 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: Perdogg

What difference does it make???


7 posted on 04/02/2013 2:10:57 PM PDT by Third Person (Welcome to Gaymerica.)
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To: Perdogg

The entire thing smells worse than moldy socks, imo.


8 posted on 04/02/2013 2:11:41 PM PDT by tomkat ( .. shall NOT be infringed)
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To: justlurking

“a matter of semantics”

LOL!


9 posted on 04/02/2013 2:13:44 PM PDT by Selene
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To: Perdogg

They came from the same place that the train from Yonkers when it arrived after going 40.5 MPH and passed the train from Chicago going 32 MPH...


10 posted on 04/02/2013 2:24:02 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (LBJ declared war on poverty and lost. Barack Obama declared war on prosperity and won. /csmusaret)
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To: Perdogg

They said, “keep walking. There is nothing to see here. Now shut up and get back in line.”


11 posted on 04/02/2013 2:26:07 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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To: Perdogg

Good question. According to the last that I read about it, though, he was changing magazines before they were empty. That would present even more of a problem with what we’ve been presented.


12 posted on 04/02/2013 2:28:06 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Perdogg
What baffles me is that Lanza supposedly discharged these 154 rounds in five minutes. My math says that would be one round every two seconds not allowing any time for changing magazines let along moving around the school, picking targets and taking his own life. Obviously the school was not in an effective lock down as Lanza would have needed more time to breech locked doors. This timeline doesn't make any sense.
13 posted on 04/02/2013 2:29:32 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Perdogg

Trigger happy law enforcement shooting at eachother?


14 posted on 04/02/2013 2:29:50 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Slaving away so obama supporting deadbeats can play)
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To: Perdogg
Did the Bullet Go Back and to the Left?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nmGS8rVuIM


15 posted on 04/02/2013 2:47:00 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: Perdogg

Here’s a good one. From the article, investigators found certificates of NRA membership with Adam and Nancy’s names on them in their house, but the NRA says that it makes no such certificates. And the NRA said that neither were members.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2302880/Adam-Lanza-Never-seen-photo-Newtown-killer-college-records-refused-identify-gender.html


16 posted on 04/02/2013 3:15:21 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: The Great RJ

There is a lot about it that doesn’t make any sense. His accuracy is at about 94%, at that rate (from what I have read). Even someone good at video games would be hard pressed to deliver that kind of accuracy with the real thing. Yes, the poor little kids were caught unawares, etc. but they would be small, no doubt darting targets. (Yes, in a confined area, but still...) Something stinks.


17 posted on 04/02/2013 3:17:07 PM PDT by cld51860 (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: Perdogg

Good questions P-dog....prepare for condescension.


18 posted on 04/02/2013 3:21:12 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: Perdogg
Where did the other 49 (154-105) rounds come from?

There were a total of 7 magazines -- the one on his AR15, and 6 others.

3 of the magazines were emptied [90] but 3 others he changed out before they were empty and about half the rounds were still left in the magazines of those three. That's where your missing 49 other rounds came from.

19 posted on 04/02/2013 3:56:46 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: familyop

RE: NRA certificate, not membership card.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3001869/posts

“Emily Miller of the Washington Times noted today in a piece responding to Morgan’s egregious and misleading tweets that:

In the search warrants of the Lanza’s mother’s house, it showed a receipt for a shooting range along with a NRA certificates for both Adam and Nancy Lanza. These are given when a person takes a course in gun safety or training by an NRA-certified instructor.

The police also list a handbook published by the NRA. The book covers topics include safely using a pistol safely, shooting fundamentals, cleaning, storage and transportation.

[…]

The certificate was made out to Nancy Lanza, according to LaPierre explain what checks they made on Adam Lanza before sending him a @NRA certificate. #Newtown

The NRA was forced to put out a statement clarifying for those in the media that people NRA certificates don’t indicate membership in the organization: “There is no record of a member relationship between Newtown killer Adam Lanza, nor between Nancy Lanza, A. Lanza or N. Lanza with the National Rifle Association. Reporting to the contrary is reckless, false and defamatory.”


20 posted on 04/02/2013 3:57:34 PM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: Perdogg

not of it happened the way they say it did. period. i know what i heard. i know what i saw. i know what the initial reports were. i know what the evolving official stories are.
something stinks!!!!


21 posted on 04/02/2013 4:15:35 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: Perdogg

How dare you suggest the government lies!/sarc

Seriously, I expect the GOP-E shills will come along to flame you soon, although you are ultimately correct- this whole matter has the stink of falsehood about it.


22 posted on 04/02/2013 4:15:47 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: Perdogg

This is what CNN reported. Maybe someone who’s good at math can figure it out. . .


When police found Lanza’s body — killed by a single, self-inflicted shot from a Glock 10 mm handgun — they also discovered that the Bushmaster rifle was loaded with 14 bullets in its 30-round capacity magazine, plus one round in a chamber.

This was one of 10 of this firearm’s 30-round capacity magazines at the scene, Sedensky explained. More ammunition for the Glock and a Sig Sauer P226 9 mm handgun was also found. Three such magazines still contained 30 rounds. There were six more magazines nearby — three of them were empty, while the others had 10, 11 or 13 live rounds in them.

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/03/28/us/connecticut-shooting-documents/index.html


23 posted on 04/02/2013 5:17:29 PM PDT by deks ("...the battle...liberty against the overreach of the federal government" Ken Cuccinelli)
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To: dynachrome; TigersEye; AnAmericanMother

You all wrote good information and made good points. Thank you for the replies.

It would seem, though, that many journalists and some police in certain kinds of jurisdictions would sometimes try to imply that a murderer was somehow politically active for, or at least contributing to support our Second Amendment—not a likely activity for murderers or other violent criminals in most cases.


24 posted on 04/02/2013 5:21:29 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: familyop

The guy was nuts. Extremely nuts. It amazes me that anyone would try to figure out the motivations and thought processes of a seriously insane person. Their dissociation from reality, by definition, precludes coming to rational conclusions about their thinking.


25 posted on 04/02/2013 5:38:27 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: deks

Post #19

[7 x 29] = 154 + [15 + 10 + 11 + 13]

[203] = 154 + [49]


26 posted on 04/02/2013 7:11:45 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Perdogg

We haven’t seen the official crime scene reports from the CT state bureaucracy and probably never will. All numbers are conjectured and meaningless media speculation. The crime scene doesn’t fit the lone white male right wing militia template, so you will never hear the truth. It’s the gun grabbing that counts. Lanza was aided and abetted by left wing policies.


27 posted on 04/02/2013 8:27:02 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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