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Smoking Ban for Popular Beaches in Honolulu Likely to Become Law
The Maui News ^ | April 2, 2013

Posted on 04/02/2013 8:38:53 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Honolulu Mayor Kirk Caldwell says he will sign a bill into law that bans smoking at some of Oahu's most popular beaches, but it first must pass legal review.

KITV-TV reports that Honolulu City Councilman Stanley Chang wants to outlaw smoking at some of the island's most popular beach parks.

(Excerpt) Read more at mauinews.com ...


TOPICS: Local News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: antitobaccoscam; hawaii; scam

1 posted on 04/02/2013 8:38:53 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Joy!


2 posted on 04/02/2013 8:43:31 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: nickcarraway

Obama isn’t going to be happy about this.


3 posted on 04/02/2013 8:44:05 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: nickcarraway

This reminds me of the absurdity of the no-smoking laws here in San Diego. Smoking is not allowed on the beaches but fires in fire pits is perfectly legal.


4 posted on 04/02/2013 8:44:10 PM PDT by South40 (I Love The "New & Improved" Free Republic!)
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To: South40
And they have beaches for dogs to poop on!


5 posted on 04/02/2013 8:46:13 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: nickcarraway

Smokers at the beach are THE worst. Leave their butts all over even if a special receptical (taxpayer paid of course) is 1 foot away.

Disgusting.

Plus if you’re going to allow tobacco combustion, why not other substances as well? Why can’t people combust charcoal or wood or even trash?


6 posted on 04/02/2013 8:47:32 PM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: South40

Do they allow smoking by scuba divers or skin divers under water?


7 posted on 04/02/2013 8:52:59 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Lorianne

I know. The beach is just one giant ash tray for them.


8 posted on 04/02/2013 8:53:55 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: mylife
And they have beaches for dogs to poop on!

Yes they do; Dog Beach. I always thought it was where ugly women went.

9 posted on 04/02/2013 8:56:22 PM PDT by South40 (I Love The "New & Improved" Free Republic!)
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To: nickcarraway

They probably do. But give it time.


10 posted on 04/02/2013 8:56:54 PM PDT by South40 (I Love The "New & Improved" Free Republic!)
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To: nickcarraway

if they’re banning smoking due to it being a public health hazard, then why aren’t they banning homosexuality?


11 posted on 04/02/2013 8:59:26 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: South40

They are encouraged to “pick” up after pets.
Why not just encourage smokers to curb their butts?

I always do.

Naw, it is easier to treat smokers like vermin.
I HATE SMOKE NAZI’S!!!


12 posted on 04/02/2013 8:59:54 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: South40
I really wish the smoking police would leave us alone. Smoking is not an illegal activity and the argument of saying beaches are ashtrays is a joke.

I've been on some beautiful beaches that are soiled by dog poop, cans, litter etc. If smoke bothers you in the outdoors there is something wrong with you.

13 posted on 04/02/2013 9:00:27 PM PDT by estrogen (voter fraud was huge)
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To: sten

Good point.
Black’s beach is a haven for it.


14 posted on 04/02/2013 9:00:55 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: South40

It probably has changed over the years.
I used to have good looking friends that lived up there.


15 posted on 04/02/2013 9:03:45 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: nickcarraway

Chip Chip Chipping away at American freedom. These low tier politicans are some real “heroes”.


16 posted on 04/02/2013 9:03:53 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Bill of Rights?)
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To: nickcarraway

I just wish politicians would have the gonads to outlaw smoke products altogether.

Of course that means they’d have to give up taxes, but stop the hypocrisy for pete’s sake.

That is not a slam on smokers but on the principles politicians should have.


17 posted on 04/02/2013 9:08:26 PM PDT by llevrok (Keep your arms out. It makes it harder for them to throw a net over you.)
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To: South40

Doh!


18 posted on 04/02/2013 9:12:29 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: llevrok

I have said that for years, stop doing this death of a thousand cuts thing.


19 posted on 04/02/2013 9:14:11 PM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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To: nickcarraway

Once they realize they just banned smoking pot they will realize the Coumo moment they had.


20 posted on 04/02/2013 9:29:43 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I predict the exact same Freepers will hate the GOP Candidate for: 2016,2020,2024,2028, 2032.)
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To: estrogen

Come to any public Galveston beach area late on any warm Sunday afternoon and see all the litter left by the Mexicans. And the trash cans will be practically empty.

Cigarette smokers are the least of their problems. Everyone that I know that smokes on the beach as well as the rest of the families that used to go there always took their trash with them.


21 posted on 04/02/2013 9:32:09 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: nickcarraway
Dang!


22 posted on 04/02/2013 9:44:22 PM PDT by Slyfox (The Key to Marxism is Medicine ~ Vladimir Lenin)
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To: mylife

No dog shiite on beaches in Hawaii........


23 posted on 04/02/2013 10:15:01 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: doorgunner69

I’ve never seen ciggie butts on the beaches in Hawaii either.


24 posted on 04/02/2013 10:26:32 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: llevrok
I just wish politicians would have the gonads to outlaw smoke products altogether.

A lot of people died on the beaches of Normandy to protect us from people like you. I guess they died in vain.
25 posted on 04/02/2013 11:18:40 PM PDT by microgood
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To: nickcarraway

Good lord

But you can still smoke meth and kona right


26 posted on 04/02/2013 11:27:14 PM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: estrogen

[[If smoke bothers you in the outdoors there is something wrong with you.]]

There isn’t one iota of evidence that stray smoke particles that might waft their way towards a person out in the open causes cancer or breathign problems because the amount is so miniscule and so diluted and broken apart by air currents by the time it reaches a person as to be effectively harmless- Yet these smoking nazis in their self righteous ‘shove it down everyone’s throats’ mentality just make crap up claiming it’s a ‘danger to society’ and smokers just rolled right over and took it- They SHOULD HAVE taken this to court and demanded that the people tryign to ram through the asinine law PROVE that smoking on a beach was directly responsbile for ANY cancers or breathign problems- they hsoudl have been made to provide the SCIENTIFIC PROOF that is was such a danger as to warrent imediate passage of said laws- Infact, IF smokers rights groups were to launch a lawsuit they probably still coudl get a judge to halt all outdoor bans UNTIL such proof is provided- but I’m not seeign smoker’s rights groups launchign many lawsuits for some reason


27 posted on 04/02/2013 11:37:41 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

[[Chip Chip Chipping away at American freedom. These low tier politicans are some real “heroes”.]]

They aren’t just chipping away nymore0- they are throwing hteir unconsitutional crap smack dab in our faces and darign anyone to do somethign about it- which of course noone iwll- so they just keep brazenly throwing their self sanctimonious crap in our faces-


28 posted on 04/02/2013 11:40:17 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Slyfox

Is that a Monicanudo?


29 posted on 04/02/2013 11:48:48 PM PDT by rottndog ('Live Free Or Die' Ain't just words on a bumber sticker...or a tagline.)
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To: nickcarraway

You smokers have brought this on yourself. You are PIGS with the ashes and butts dropped or flung everywhere. Be it out of your car windows or on your neighbors driveway. Smoke if you want but keep your trash to yourselves.


30 posted on 04/03/2013 12:39:26 AM PDT by FreedomGuru (Without Life nothing else matters.)
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To: estrogen
If smoke bothers you in the outdoors there is something wrong with you.

So, if someone has a bad case of nasty flatulence from a heavy dinner of bean burritos, you have no issue with them being up-wind of you, because it is outdoors?

You need to understand that the smell of smoldering tobacco is as noxious as bean farts to many people, no matter how much you may enjoy inhaling one or the other.

It comes down to not befouling the air of others. No one gives a damn what you you to your lungs, just do it elsewhere.

31 posted on 04/03/2013 12:58:53 AM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: nickcarraway

Stupid...about half the people on those beaches are from Asia and heavy smokers...nothing like putting a knife in your chicken that lays the golden egg. Liberals amaze me.


32 posted on 04/03/2013 2:24:31 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ( EVERY DIME Obama Spends is given to him by the Republicans in the House.)
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To: nickcarraway

I wandered a little too far east at Waikiki,(past the old Navitorium)
And found myself surrounded by good-looking amorous men.

The only problem was,
They were being amorous with each other.

I wonder if their “activities” will be banned, along with that nasty, naughty smoking?


33 posted on 04/03/2013 4:57:48 AM PDT by left that other site (Worry is the darkroom that developes negatives.)
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To: Lorianne
When they came for the Jews, I didn't object because I wasn't Jewish . . .
34 posted on 04/03/2013 5:00:56 AM PDT by tomkat ( if FReepers start to vanish, it's begun -/\/\/\-)
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To: Drango

Tobacco addicts are gonna be pissed when obamacare outlaws cigs altogether.


35 posted on 04/03/2013 5:11:35 AM PDT by BO Stinkss ( I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees)
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To: FreedomGuru
You smokers have brought this on yourself.

Yeah, and the gun owners too! And those who use medical care! They all DESERVE it!

Kinda ironic, that screen name of yours.

36 posted on 04/03/2013 5:15:54 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: tomkat

Silly.
No one is jailing the smokers.

They were asked for years to have just a bare minimum of politeness and responsibility and not leave their butts all over the beach. We installed special recepticles all over the beaches (that were unsightly and expensive) and they woudn’t even use those.

Then we spend millions having to take up the recepticles so they beaches can be combed and sifted of the butts.

Smokers could not muster up even the bare minimum of politeness and decency.

I’ve seen it firsthand for years.


37 posted on 04/03/2013 7:28:15 AM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: sten

They are banning it because of the litter problem mostly.


38 posted on 04/03/2013 7:29:18 AM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: Lorianne

Yet


39 posted on 04/03/2013 7:34:31 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: mylife

The vast majority of smokers WILL NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES discard of their butts appropriately.

This has been going on for decades in Hawaii and smokers have been given decades of chances to change their ways. They WILL NOT. Period. They are militant that they don’t have to follow any littering rules.

They had a chance to prove they could be responsible and good citizens. They ARE NOT (again the vast majority).

Sorry that responsible smokers have to be lumped in with them, but enough is enough.

I have witnessed this first hand for decades. Smokers are not going to change. Ever.

Smokers do not own the beaches.

And I resent that I now have to pay for people to go out and enforce a rule that should be common sense and common decency.

I RESENT IT!


40 posted on 04/03/2013 7:40:23 AM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: mylife

Taxpayers spend millions to comb and sift the beaches at night to get rid of the butts


41 posted on 04/03/2013 7:43:32 AM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: rottndog

Touche.


42 posted on 04/03/2013 7:56:40 AM PDT by Slyfox (The Key to Marxism is Medicine ~ Vladimir Lenin)
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To: microgood
You did not understand my comment. It was not about taking away our freedom to smoke (or any other freedom for that matter).

My comment was that politicians are G D hypocrites for making smoking impossible/difficult yet loving the taxes smoking creates.

If they really had convictions, they'd outlaw smokes (or what ever). But they play this game of appearing concerned for our health while yet allowing smoking to keep the taxes it generates.

As for your thousands died at Normandy comment, you could not be farther from the truth of who I am in that holier than thou statement. Who died and made you the arbiter of liberty and freedom?

You know the people in glass houses cliché? If not, you'd better Google it. Get to know me before you come out with public bull sh*t comments like that.

43 posted on 04/03/2013 8:40:07 AM PDT by llevrok (Keep your arms out. It makes it harder for them to throw a net over you.)
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To: FreedomGuru

I see McDonald refuse everywhere, should we punish patrons of McDodo’s?

Fine the SOB that littered!


44 posted on 04/03/2013 4:57:28 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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