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I am shopping for a good daily driver car(40 miles round trip)...
03 April 2013 | US Navy Vet

Posted on 04/03/2013 7:28:28 AM PDT by US Navy Vet

...that gets decent gas milage and is reliable. Any Suggestions?


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And any to DEFINATLY stay away from and why.
1 posted on 04/03/2013 7:28:28 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: US Navy Vet

Hyundai Elantra
Honda Civic
Toyota Corolla


2 posted on 04/03/2013 7:29:42 AM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Hyundai Elantra.

Cheap, quiet, comfortable.


3 posted on 04/03/2013 7:31:31 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: US Navy Vet
Friends who have (the newer) Hyundai's are very happy with...excellent mpg and warranty.

Seems like (used) Honda's are for sale much more than Toyota's -- not as reliable?

4 posted on 04/03/2013 7:32:39 AM PDT by Jane Long (Background checks? Dandy idea, Mr. President. Shoulda started with yours. - Sarah Palin)
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To: US Navy Vet

Toyota is what I have. Best cars on the market and they get great gas mileage and last forever. That is my recommendation.


5 posted on 04/03/2013 7:32:44 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: US Navy Vet

Let me just jump on this list to say “Buy American”.


6 posted on 04/03/2013 7:34:25 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: US Navy Vet
I love my Chevy S-10! But you want the 4 cyl with manual trans. (If you can find one.)

Mine has 180,000 on it, and gets nice milage if I keep my foot out of it, coast to stop lights, etc...

7 posted on 04/03/2013 7:34:28 AM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: US Navy Vet

used Camry the best


8 posted on 04/03/2013 7:34:54 AM PDT by steve8714 (Any homosexual man can marry any woman he wants. Just like any normal man.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Most cars are pretty reliable nowadays. I’m kind of doing the same search, but I have a 122 mile round trip commute. The Kia apparently has a fairly frequent timing belt change cycle. Meanwhile, the Toyota 1500CC (In my older Scion xB) uses a chain. It should last as long as the cylinders, theoretically.


9 posted on 04/03/2013 7:35:23 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

The boogar-eaters in the unions love you.


10 posted on 04/03/2013 7:36:19 AM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: US Navy Vet

Audi A 4 6-speed 2.0T S series. Incredible gas milage and a blast to drive. I basically fill up up once a month and only if I drive a lot. I live in Atlanta which is mostly stop and go but it beats the heck out of the Avalon I was driving.

Also a Navy vet (65-69) Proud member of the Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club (BB62)


11 posted on 04/03/2013 7:36:44 AM PDT by rhubarbk (BHO = FUBAR)
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To: US Navy Vet

The previous Taurus model. My brother, sold his last one 260,000 miles and still running. Bought another used one, over 200k on that one now.


12 posted on 04/03/2013 7:36:51 AM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: Slump Tester

Lol.

Yeah, but I got the flag.


13 posted on 04/03/2013 7:36:59 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: US Navy Vet

I drive a very hungry gas guzzler, whom I LOVE. He gets me to and from in any weather condition safely.

I know, no help to you, but I just LOVE my gas guzzler! =)


14 posted on 04/03/2013 7:37:06 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: steve8714

+1 on that. Best 4-cylinder drivetrain in the world IMO. I have one that’s passed 200k with no serious repair issues. Big enough to be comfortable but still get decent gas mileage with the 2.3 liter 4 cylinder, and it’s quick enough for me.


15 posted on 04/03/2013 7:38:55 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: US Navy Vet

I recommend the late-model Honda Civic. 40+ mpg, most of the amenities we used to associated with luxury cars, and a price roughly in the 20k range for a new one.


16 posted on 04/03/2013 7:41:17 AM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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MY son has a newer Ford Focus and he absolutely loves the car. Has had no problems, drives nice and smooth, peppy when it needs to be and 40+ MPG.

Beyond that the Hyundai Elantra is one of the best and most reliable.

Honda Civic is another very good vehicle, and if you are looking slightly bigger you can’t go wrong with a Honda Accord. We have had 5 Accord’s over the years and all have run excellently, have lasted well into the 200,000 mile range, and get good gas mileage.

Also have heard very good things from people I know that swear by the Toyota Camry. I have driven a couple as rental vehicles when traveling for work, and was nicely impressed with the vehicles.

The biggest ones to stay away from in my Opinion - GOVT Motors and Dodge.


17 posted on 04/03/2013 7:41:23 AM PDT by commish (The takers rule. Time to implement the triple G plan - GOD, GUNS, & GOLD)
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We’ve got an ‘08 Ford Focus. About 35 MPG and haven’t had any real issues except changing the battery once and tires once.

It was pretty cheap new and still does great. Supposedly the new focuses are higher MPG but haven’t really checked them out. It’s also AMERICAN.


18 posted on 04/03/2013 7:42:37 AM PDT by Jammz ("The only thing needed for evil to prevail, is for good men to do nothing.")
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Stay away from Honda Fit. My mother wanted to sell hers to us two weeks after getting it - no thanks.

Uncomfortable, cramped, loud, tin box feel.


19 posted on 04/03/2013 7:42:39 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: US Navy Vet

Ford Focus, good fuel economy, dependable. We have had six in our family and no issues. Mine is an ‘10 and is loaded with Sync and power everything. Very nice for driving. I really like the Focus. And they cost less than the imports.


20 posted on 04/03/2013 7:42:48 AM PDT by discipler (How's that 'hope and change' working for 'ya? - RL)
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To: US Navy Vet

We’ve got an ‘08 Ford Focus. About 35 MPG and haven’t had any real issues except changing the battery once and tires once.

It was pretty cheap new and still does great. Supposedly the new focuses are higher MPG but haven’t really checked them out. It’s also AMERICAN.


21 posted on 04/03/2013 7:46:01 AM PDT by Jammz ("The only thing needed for evil to prevail, is for good men to do nothing.")
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To: napscoordinator

Toyota is what I have. Best cars on the market and they get great gas mileage and last forever.


That’s my impression as well.

That being said, our 2001 Chrysler 300m just turned over 180k and my wife just got back to central KY from a drive to northern Minnesota and it did great, except we had to replace the “radiator cap”.

Oh, and I have to reglue the foam surrounds on the speakers in the doors every year or so now.


22 posted on 04/03/2013 7:46:50 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Toyota Camry, Honda Civic. I can’t recommend any Chrysler or GM product and don’t know about Fords.


23 posted on 04/03/2013 7:47:05 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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Get a 1980 to 1985 used Mercedes Benz diesel sedan. Good mileage, runs great should be inexpensive (44,000 to $6,000) and if in good condition, looks great. And if you have the will, you can make your own bio-diesel for less than a dollar a gallon.


24 posted on 04/03/2013 7:47:34 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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A friend of mine used to sell several different brands of german cars. His line was this: Audi’s are amazing cars but don’t buy one with over 70k miles on it without a really good warranty because it will cost a fortune to fix.


25 posted on 04/03/2013 7:50:31 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: taxcontrol
My ‘02 Porsche Carerra can get to 25 miles per gallon if I keep my foot out of it. Unfortunately, it must have premium gas...
26 posted on 04/03/2013 7:51:24 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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Honda Civic - safe, well-made, reliable, low operating costs and 40+ mpg. on the highway. You can lease one for 3 years/12,000 mi. per year for under $100 a month. At 40 miles round trip per day, that’s about 880 miles a month based on 22 working days, which will keep you under the limit. Or, you can buy one for short money down and about $18K total.


27 posted on 04/03/2013 7:51:55 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Cogito, ergo armatum sum.)
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I love Toyota zombies.

They’ll have a $1500 repair and come home from the shop and say “yeah it’s an extremely reliable car, it just has high mileage.” Heck they’ll even say it in their mechanic’s accent.

Get yourself a nice well-maintained inline 6 Jaguar near 100,000 miles for the same price. When you get that $1500 bill you’ll say “ahhh, but it’s a small price to pay...”


28 posted on 04/03/2013 7:52:21 AM PDT by golux
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I did some research on the newer Ford Focus becuse it is one of the ones I’m seriously looking at. Apparently the technology behind the transaxle is so sophisticated that BMW owners are buying the same basic design as an after market performance enhancer. It’s considered the next best thing to all wheel drive.


29 posted on 04/03/2013 7:53:27 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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You cannot go wrong with a Corolla or a Civic. My personal preference is Corolla because there are more of them on the road than any other single model of vehicle. You should be able to get one of either that is less than ten years old with less than 100,000 miles for well under $10,000. They’re 200,000 mile vehicles, at least, if they are cared for properly. Garaging helps a lot. Only buy one that has been garaged all its life.


30 posted on 04/03/2013 7:53:51 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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We buy used Ford Taurus for our techs. We have several that are close to 4000,000. That get regular oil chgs, standard maintenance, tires etc., but that’s it. My partner loves Toyotas, but he is impressed at the service we get from the Taurus. I drive a Ford Ranger with more than 200,000 on it. Only time it has been in the shop is for a radiator problem (and it was kind enough to give me ample warning).


31 posted on 04/03/2013 7:54:01 AM PDT by Roses0508
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When people say buy American, what do they mean? Many Honda and Toyota's have more American content and built than the "American" brands. p>If you have any desire of combining fun and want a reasonable price, check out Toyota's FRS. Essentially this is the exact same care as the Subaru BRZ, but without the price jack. It is a two seater for anyone with legs (but its has four). The car is an absolute blast to drive when you are outside of traffic. Since it is under the Scion badge, the price is fixed.

If you have any mechanical desires left, check out under the hood. You can actually work on this car. Oil change, breeze.

32 posted on 04/03/2013 7:54:04 AM PDT by jwsea55
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I remember a guy that had to replace the transmission in his Mercedes three times and he STILL claimed it was a great car.


33 posted on 04/03/2013 7:55:03 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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I live in central Kentucky. They have major offices and factories located in the Georgetown area and a Toyotami plant near my home (where they manufacture spare parts for out of production models).

I consider Toyota an American brand.


34 posted on 04/03/2013 7:56:33 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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IMHO...

Used MB E320 blutec diesel about 5 years old; you can find these with about 100k miles on them for about $15k to $20k. With that mileage, they’re just broken in.

35mpg highway, 25mpg city, should last 10-20 years (hundreds of thousands of miles) if maintenance is done.


35 posted on 04/03/2013 7:58:08 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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The FRS is exactly the car I’m looking at. Except it is actually a Scion. And I understand the main difference between it and the subaru is that the subaru is all wheel drive.

BTW, my 122 mile commute is mostly all two lane twisties, where I pass maybe one car every three or four miles. It is a motorcyclists paradise as well as a huge blast in any car that handles well. Coupled with the fact that my wife and I are empty nesters, this car may just be it for us.

But I’m worried about owning something that would be a temptation for others to steal, and cops to ticket. In my scion or Chrisler, I do 69 in a 55 ahd have for the 19 months I’ve lived here. I pass cops using moving radar and they never bother with me. I suspect they would with the FRS.


36 posted on 04/03/2013 8:00:34 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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Forty miles isn’t that much. In Iowa, front wheel drive is sufficient. I wouldn’t recommend rear-drive only. Anticipate $5 to $6 per gallon gas.

Higher end new? BMW 328ix; 30+mpg highway, plenty speedy. Lexus ES Hybrid; 40 mpg highway, too smooth!

New middle-of-the-road? Ford Fusion. Any of the best-selling mainstream family sedans are actually great.

Then there’s

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/12/monday-mileage-champion-the-year-in-review/

...approximately two-thirds of the vehicles that reach the 300k+ mark at an auction I attend will usually belong in one of four categories.

Ford truck or SUV. Chevy truck or SUV. Honda car. Toyota everything...


37 posted on 04/03/2013 8:00:43 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Let me just jump on this list to say “Buy American”.

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I agree. My American made Toyota or my American made Nissan is definitely the way to go.


38 posted on 04/03/2013 8:01:46 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: dangerdoc
The previous Taurus model

I had two. Both were crap of crap.

39 posted on 04/03/2013 8:01:57 AM PDT by bgill
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We have several that are close to 4000,000.

4 million? Did you forget a comma or add a zero?

40 posted on 04/03/2013 8:03:38 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: US Navy Vet

Elantra!


41 posted on 04/03/2013 8:06:20 AM PDT by Forrestfire (("To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society." Theodore Roosevelt))
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42 posted on 04/03/2013 8:08:45 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: US Navy Vet

I love my KIA.


43 posted on 04/03/2013 8:08:49 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: US Navy Vet

How much do you want to spend is the main question.


44 posted on 04/03/2013 8:09:41 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Obama's vision - No Job is a Good Job)
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Also, the best source on what car to buy from a maintenance perspective is your neighborhood mechanic. If he is honest, ask which ones he would buy for himself. If he isn't so honest, ask him which ones makes him the happiest.

Almost every honest mechanic I know will say Toyota or Honda.

A couple of people have mentioned the number of cars sold. The car manufacturers are now only stocking replacement parts for most cars for about 8 years...unless they are high volume ones like the civic, camry or corolla. For most of the other cars manufactured, keeping a car after 8 years becomes very expensive.

For any American models you are interested in, ask about a getting a fuel pump or right rear brake line for a 2002 model.

45 posted on 04/03/2013 8:09:59 AM PDT by jwsea55
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I love my Chevy S-10! But you want the 4 cyl with manual trans. (If you can find one.) Mine has 180,000 on it, and gets nice milage if I keep my foot out of it, coast to stop lights, etc...

I would second this choice. Bought a new one in 2000 withthe stated intentions of driving it till he doors fall off.381k later they did on drivers. Very few problems. 4 banger Vortec engine is a sweet machine. Plus utility of pickup. Only options i purchase was rear bumper.Load the back with weight and it got around just ss well as full sized 4X4 in snow

46 posted on 04/03/2013 8:10:16 AM PDT by vikzilla
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Honda Civic

A good used one can be had relatively cheap (5 to 7K)and will STILL be good for years and years.

I have a 2003 with over 250K miles and it still runs like new.

This is the 4th one I owned, because I like them so much

I get about 40 mpg (standard shift and majority thruway driving)


47 posted on 04/03/2013 8:12:01 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: US Navy Vet

My 2012 Honda Civic was assembled in Greensburg, IN from parts manufactured by over 120 local suppliers. It gets 33.5 mpg all around and 42 on the interstates. The three 2002 Civics in my family all get 30 mpg Plus.


48 posted on 04/03/2013 8:12:53 AM PDT by anoldafvet
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To: thackney

Sorry. Added zero. Posting from phone and interruptions.


49 posted on 04/03/2013 8:13:27 AM PDT by Roses0508
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50 posted on 04/03/2013 8:14:05 AM PDT by Fido969
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