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The Hobbit ring that may have inspired Tolkien put on show
The Guardian ^ | April 1, 2013 | Maev Kennedy

Posted on 04/03/2013 9:44:42 AM PDT by Altariel

In what was once the housekeeper's office of a Tudor mansion in Hampshire, a very odd golden ring glitters on a revolving stand in a tall perspex column. In chapter five of The Hobbit, Bilbo Baggins finds a ring in the gloom of Gollum's cave. Not just any ring. "One very beautiful thing, very beautiful, very wonderful. He had a ring, a golden ring, a precious ring."

A new exhibition opening today at The Vyne, now owned by the National Trust, raises the intriguing possibility that the Roman ring in the case, and the ring of power in JRR Tolkien's book The Hobbit, and in his Lord of the Rings trilogy, are one and the same.

As Dave Green, the property manager, explains, there's more to the story than the ring – an iron-age site with ancient mine workings known as "the Dwarf's Hill", a curse on the thief who stole the ring, and a strong link to Tolkien himself.

Tolkien was a professor of Anglo-Saxon at Oxford before he found fame as an author, with the publication of The Hobbit in 1937, and the first of the Rings trilogy in 1954. He certainly knew the story of the curse and the ring, and was researching the subject two years before he began work on The Hobbit.

The ring was in the collection of the Chute family – which for generations was interested in politics, collecting, and antiquarian research – for centuries before the house came to the National Trust in the 1930s.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; The Hobbit Hole
KEYWORDS: hobbit; jrrtolkien; museum; ring; tolkien

1 posted on 04/03/2013 9:44:42 AM PDT by Altariel
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2 posted on 04/03/2013 9:45:55 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Due Process 2013: "Burn the M*****-F***er Down!")
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To: Altariel

Perhaps, but “ring” mythology shows up all over northern European written history, which Tolkein clearly studied and attempted to emulate in part. It’s hard to say what, exactly, was the primary inspiration.


3 posted on 04/03/2013 9:49:11 AM PDT by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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To: Altariel; Zionist Conspirator
Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,

ash nazg thrakatulûk, agh burzum ishi krimpatul.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46j6-5gSZY0


4 posted on 04/03/2013 9:51:12 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: KC_Lion

You know how unlucky it is to say that, much less print it? I hope you don’t live anywhere near me.


5 posted on 04/03/2013 9:55:54 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: stuartcr
Tell that to this guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=4s59oDfDoI8&NR=1


6 posted on 04/03/2013 9:58:37 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: KC_Lion

Fo’shizzle.


7 posted on 04/03/2013 9:59:34 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: KC_Lion

and look what it got him...he’s dead!


8 posted on 04/03/2013 10:01:52 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: KC_Lion

Gesundheit.


9 posted on 04/03/2013 10:01:59 AM PDT by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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To: cripplecreek; stuartcr; kevkrom
Laughing Out Loud!!!


10 posted on 04/03/2013 10:03:57 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: KC_Lion

Never before have the words of that tongue been uttered in this thread.


11 posted on 04/03/2013 10:06:15 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

LOL


12 posted on 04/03/2013 10:07:55 AM PDT by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: Altariel
"One ring to rule them all.
One ring to find them.
One ring to bring them all,
And in the darkness bind them."
13 posted on 04/03/2013 10:08:18 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (For me, I plan to die standing as a free man rather than spend one second on my knees as a slave.)
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To: Altariel; Bloody Sam Roberts

14 posted on 04/03/2013 10:10:00 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: KC_Lion

The change in KC_Lion’s typing was astounding. Suddenly it became menacing, powerful, harsh as stone. A shadow seemed to pass over the forum, and the Freepers for a moment were silent. All trembled, and the Viking Kitties stopped their ears.

“Never before has any poster dared to utter words of that tongue in The Hobbit Hole, KC_Lion.”

(Lookie what YOU’VE done....)


15 posted on 04/03/2013 10:15:27 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel
gollum photo: Gollum gollum.jpg

"Ummm, that's not the precious..."

16 posted on 04/03/2013 10:21:40 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Altariel

It does look a bit similar, but I think it’s the fact that it glows in the dark and takes over people’s souls that really inspired Tolkien.


17 posted on 04/03/2013 10:26:19 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Altariel

I have it on good authority that the ring in question is presently in the possession of the present occupant of the ‘White Hut’.


18 posted on 04/03/2013 10:34:57 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.


19 posted on 04/03/2013 10:38:18 AM PDT by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: Uncle Miltie; Altariel

20 posted on 04/03/2013 10:40:48 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Kartographer
I have it on good authority that the ring in question is presently in the possession of the present occupant of the ‘White Hut’.

Nah. It is in the possession of Dr. Leonard Hofstadter.


21 posted on 04/03/2013 11:17:50 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (For me, I plan to die standing as a free man rather than spend one second on my knees as a slave.)
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To: kevkrom

I think it was Wagner’s ring music and its impact on the nazis which inspired tolkein.


22 posted on 04/03/2013 11:26:45 AM PDT by what's up
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To: Altariel

Did y’all read the story about Senicianus & the tablet? Pretty cool! An ancient Miss Marple mystery unfolds....


23 posted on 04/03/2013 11:42:16 AM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert (FUBO, and the useful idiots you rode in on!)
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To: Altariel
raises the intriguing possibility that the Roman ring in the case, and the ring of power in JRR Tolkien's book The Hobbit, and in his Lord of the Rings trilogy, are one and the same.

A hypothesis easily tested: Put in on and see whther you become invisible and acquire strange powers. How difficult can that be?

24 posted on 04/03/2013 12:02:03 PM PDT by Moltke ("I am Dr. Sonderborg," he said, "and I don't want any nonsense.")
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To: Moltke

...”whether”...


25 posted on 04/03/2013 12:03:22 PM PDT by Moltke ("I am Dr. Sonderborg," he said, "and I don't want any nonsense.")
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To: Moltke
Put in on and see whther you become invisible and acquire strange powers. How difficult can that be?

What if you're already invisible and have strange powers, like me ever since I found this old watch in a cave?

26 posted on 04/03/2013 12:14:34 PM PDT by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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To: kevkrom

It doesn’t count if you’re only invisible to females...just sayin’ ;-)


27 posted on 04/03/2013 12:53:55 PM PDT by Moltke ("I am Dr. Sonderborg," he said, "and I don't want any nonsense.")
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To: Altariel

I actually believe Richard Wagners ring cycle was stolen by Tolkien.


28 posted on 04/03/2013 1:01:42 PM PDT by crazydad (Obamamohamed is a traitor)
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To: BenLurkin

Thank you! Another well cultured Freeper.


29 posted on 04/03/2013 1:02:38 PM PDT by crazydad (Obamamohamed is a traitor)
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To: crazydad

Well, I’m getting plenty ripe...if that counts as well cultured.


30 posted on 04/03/2013 1:06:48 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Altariel
You Mean like THIS!?!?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK-lDXRjS3w


31 posted on 04/04/2013 11:25:07 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: KC_Lion
I mean like this:

Seeing as I was quoting from the book (Yep, even the reference to Viking Kitties. Little known fact: J.R.R. Tolkien was one of the original Freepers...)

32 posted on 04/04/2013 10:07:35 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: what's up

Most of the Nazi brass were bored by Wagner’s operas. Hitler loved them but ideologically they don’t really fit the Nazi agenda.


33 posted on 04/09/2013 1:14:13 PM PDT by Borges
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