Posted on 04/04/2013 10:05:37 AM PDT by traumer
No flaming, just rational discourse here.
IMO, the way to "make a little more", is through hard work....not - as this article put it - by going on strike and demanding more.
I've worked in a lot of different jobs (no McDonald's, though) from lousy menial work, through retail, through white-collar, corner-office gigs. In very nearly all of them, the way to advancement was hard work, and advancing the company's interests.
In the few positions where there *wasn't* any advancement or opportunity - for instance, if management/ownership changed for the worse, or my position was being set up to be outsourced - then I worked hard to move within the organization, or to jump to another workplace. These situations were never easy, either. Sometimes it took a year or more to make the change. And meanwhile, I worked my butt off so that I was valuable enough not to get dumped.
Going on strike, would never cross my mind. After all, I agreed to a salary when I took the job. If, after training and experience, I feel that I am more valuable than my original negotiation, then a raise should be in order. If no raise is forthcoming, then I look elsewhere - did my training, experience, etc really make me worth more? If that's the case, then there will (eventually) be someone who will pay me for it. If not (as in the case of these striking workers....min wage is about it for their job) then the question should be "What do I need to do to make more money? School? Training? More hard work? Move to another state?"
The striking workers seem incredibly arrogant to me. Their argument, approximately, is "I want more money because....I want it." No mention of whether or not they'd earned it, whether they deserve it, or whether the market even would *bear* it.
The problem IMO arises from government suffocating the free market. Government suffocating our minds with government schools. Nanny state run wild.
If what you propose is the problem of more productivity with fewer people, if you were king your options would be
Fewer people
Mandated work quotas so there is enough work to go around.
Getting rid of technological advances that resulted in productivity gains
I was told on the very first job I had. “Don’t work so hard you will make the others look bad. We want this job to last.” Union apprentice work. How did you guess?
Just imagine for a moment we hadn’t stopped our space exploration programs and we were colonizing the moon, mining asteroids. There would be endless opportunities, endless space to grow, no boundaries. The universe is the limit.
“The union will hire here as a spokesperson”
Yes, like SEIU. She would need violent tendencies.
She could also work for Obama for $11/hr. I see ads for this. She would need to be able to read english to find the ad.
Yes you are right.
Yes and no to space. Limitless but limited. Terribly expensive proposition and while corporations would be (pharma) happy to do research in zero gee other semi plausible projects like mining asteroids would be difficult and probably not cost effective.
As to the kings/options part of your statement only the fewer people statement would actually work.
It was expensive to build ships to cross oceans. Flying through the air wasn’t for the masses as it was too expensive.
We are a very creative people. If we found the need to build systems to get us beyond the limits our earth, we could do so. We could make it economically feasible. I hope that the private sector is allowed to pursue space migration and it isn’t forbidden by the state.
Space exploration doesn’t suit the liberal mindset as it upsets their collective Utopian plans. They could’t stand people getting out of reach of their influence.
Liberals do their best to “educate” the creativity and individualism out of us. Their plans involve us living in allotted cubic, in the cities. Taking the bus to our State provided employment. Stopping after work at state physical centers for mandatory physical exercise. Picking up our food allotments at state run stores that have the right foods chosen for us by the state who knows best how we should feed our bodies.
It’s like they read Orwell’s 1984 and are using it for an instruction manual.
Sorry for the wide range rambling rant.
I grew up during the age of space exploration. I was on a bus in Asbury park waiting to come back to NYC in 1969 with a transistor radio to my ear as that first giant step for mankind was taken.
Ocean liners were expensive to build but you could utilize them economically. Space is a whole ‘nother ballgame.
I try and not look at liberal vs conservative in economic issues but what makes sense and what doesn’t. I either come down on the conservative side or on my own.
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