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'The Third Bullet' Review: Stephen Hunter Unwraps Savvy New Theory on JFK's Death
breitbart ^ | 1 Apr 2013 | Zachary Leeman

Posted on 04/04/2013 11:15:40 AM PDT by virgil283

Retired Marine Sniper Bob Lee Swagger and former Washington Post film critic Stephen Hunter are back with The Third Bullet .....

In a move that is rather genius in its simplicity, Hunter has taken his old protagonist and thrown him a mystery that has haunted America for 50 years: who killed President John F. Kennedy? ......

However, Hunter has no time for foolish conspiracies. In his novel he presents a theory that is ridiculously plausible that is supported and sustained by the one thing most readers love about Hunter: his substantial knowledge about firearms......

Besides the central mystery, The Third Bullet still has a lot to offer. It's not one book, but two. We get Swagger's story and we also get the first-person account of the main conspirator in the JFK assassination (his identity is a nice surprise for longtime Hunter readers). Hunter weaves these two books together, so we get a thrilling account of not just Swagger's adventures, but an account of the day of Nov. 22nd, 1963 as well.

From its brilliantly amusing opening to its powerful final moments, it's easy to sense that The Third Bullet is the novel Hunter and Swagger were always meant to create. It's the culmination of years of writing, shooting and learning. It's the novel that sets in stone the fact that Hunter is a damn good writer and Bob Lee Swagger is a damn fine hero. And if the final moments of The Third Bullet are to be believed: these two old birds ain't done yet. "

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Books/Literature; Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: jfk; kennedyassassination; stephenhunterjfk; thethirdbullet
Dirty White Boys by Stephen Hunter is one of my favorite novels... Always read his books....
1 posted on 04/04/2013 11:15:40 AM PDT by virgil283
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To: virgil283

ON the same subject, I had not heard about this before:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfU9tqbA_hY

The “sewer system shooter”.


2 posted on 04/04/2013 11:31:25 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: virgil283

In the video, go to 7:00 for that tidbit.


3 posted on 04/04/2013 11:31:54 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: virgil283
I have been trying to get through this book since shortly after Christmas. I love Hunter and Swagger, but this one is a bit dry for me.
4 posted on 04/04/2013 11:34:14 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in thee shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadows of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: verga

bump


5 posted on 04/04/2013 11:35:49 AM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: cuban leaf

The sewer shooter theory has been around for a long time, and pardon the pun, but it doesn’t hold water. It’s impossible for someone shooting from that vantage point to aim a trajectory to make the shots possible.


6 posted on 04/04/2013 11:38:39 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: virgil283

The 3rd Bullet was an awesome book.


7 posted on 04/04/2013 11:42:05 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: Boogieman

I dunno. That video is very interesting. ;-)


8 posted on 04/04/2013 11:43:46 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: virgil283

“...present a theory that many others haven’t touched over the years. I won’t give away the details, but it’s damn good.”

Well, I’m not going to go buy the book with no clue as to what the theory is. If it’s really a good theory, I’m sure I’ll here about it soon enough from sources that won’t squeeze my wallet.


9 posted on 04/04/2013 11:44:16 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: cuban leaf

Anyone can make an “interesting” video or book about the JFK assassination, which is why there are hundreds and hundreds of them out there, and most of them contradict each other. Making a theory that stands up to critical review is another matter entirely.


10 posted on 04/04/2013 11:45:26 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Go to 23:57 in this video. I think this is the most plausible *reason* Kennedy was assasinated:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mII9NZ8MMVM

Especially looking at where we are now.


11 posted on 04/04/2013 11:50:08 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Boogieman

Years ago I read an article in National Lampoon, supported with a picture, that Kennedy’s driver shot him.


12 posted on 04/04/2013 12:09:49 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/)
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To: virgil283

A lady in our office is a big Hunter fan, but had never read Dirty White Boys. I loaned her a copy with the warning, “Don’t trip over the opening paragraph.” ;)


13 posted on 04/04/2013 12:15:45 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: backwoods-engineer
The 3rd Bullet was an awesome book.

Haven't read it yet, but I've got a sneaking suspicion that Frenchy Short is in there somewhere.

14 posted on 04/04/2013 12:16:48 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Unless the Man hole cover was replace with another one, it could not happen. Manhole covers weigh 200+lbs.
I have to laugh every time I see some one in a movie rasing a manhole cover and looking up the street!
Oh yea! Don’t drop one on your toe!


15 posted on 04/04/2013 12:25:44 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: cuban leaf
The “sewer system shooter”.

I have heard that it is now standard procedure for the SS advance team to weld all manhole cover shut in the vicinity of any presidential appearance. I don't know if they do it on long parade routes, but they may.

16 posted on 04/04/2013 12:29:11 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (It's not "GUN CONTROL"! It's "PEOPLE CONTROL"!)
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To: virgil283

The focus should be on the 1.6 sec between the first and second shot.


17 posted on 04/04/2013 12:32:32 PM PDT by Despot of the Delta
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To: InvisibleChurch

Yeah, I’ve seen the photo/video close-up that purports to show that too. You don’t seriously believe it do you?


18 posted on 04/04/2013 12:54:41 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: The Sons of Liberty

They do along the motorcade routes in NYC.


19 posted on 04/04/2013 12:56:31 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: virgil283

LHO was a Marxist street agitator who would’ve been blogging daily on the dailykos if it was around back then. The left could not accept that one of their own killed JFK so they conjured up all these bogus conspiracy theories to take away from the fact that a Castro-fanboy acted alone.


20 posted on 04/04/2013 1:01:05 PM PDT by Lou Budvis
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To: cuban leaf

Don’t believe a shot from the sewer. That would be a truly magical bullet that goes up and over the side of the car to hit Kennedy. Pure crap.


21 posted on 04/04/2013 2:44:16 PM PDT by mfish13 (ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!!!!)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

There is a storm drain on the side of the road at the curb. This is where they say the shot, although impossible in angle, hit Kennedy.


22 posted on 04/04/2013 2:45:46 PM PDT by mfish13 (ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!!!!)
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To: Conserev1

200+ lbs. for a manhole cover?


23 posted on 04/04/2013 3:40:27 PM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a GREAT life!)
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To: cuban leaf

That idea appeared years ago in an episode of “The X-Files”, not sure if it emerged from the body conspiracy material or was original to the show.


24 posted on 04/04/2013 6:02:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Go pull one! and see! if they were light when the sewer floods they would be in the street and your car tire would be toast!
Go pull one Big boy!


25 posted on 04/04/2013 7:25:49 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: Conserev1

I have researched this and have been to Dallas and walked the whole area!
The last shot came from behind the white fence above the grassy Knoll!
Kennedy was led to slaughter! No doubt about it! Whether Mafia Cia or whatever! It was a conspiricy! LHO could not have pulled it off by himself!


26 posted on 04/04/2013 7:33:15 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: Boogieman
The only book that matters.


27 posted on 04/04/2013 7:35:16 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: virgil283

Leftists can’t handle the fact that JFK was killed by a Commie. They were so sure that it had to be some kind of Right-Wing conspiracy.


28 posted on 04/04/2013 7:38:17 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Despot of the Delta
The focus should be on the 1.6 sec between the first and second shot.

There was no 1.6 seconds. That is based on assuming the maximum time availible for Kennedy and Conolly to be hit by separate bullets. But on the Zapruder film Conolly is reacting to the sound of the first shot befor Kennedy is hit. ergo they were both hit by the same (second) shot. The first (miss) was about 3 seconds earlier.

29 posted on 04/04/2013 8:16:08 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (I think, therefore I am what I yam, and that's all I yam - "Popeye" Descartes)
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To: Conserev1

Well, I wasn’t trying to sell anyone on the idea, which should be obvious, so, right back at ya, go pull on yourself.


30 posted on 04/04/2013 8:16:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/kennedyassassination/index


31 posted on 04/04/2013 8:24:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Conserev1; virgil283; cuban leaf; Coldwater Creek; verga; Boogieman; backwoods-engineer; ...

From certain locations, the shots sounded like they came from the grassy knoll. The police ran right up the grassy knoll, looked over the fence, went over the fence -- no one was up there, no one behind the fence, no one running away, no bullet casings, no smell of a discharged firearm. Nothing.

And thanks Conserev1 for the nice FReepmail:
Re: 'The Third Bullet' Review: Stephen Hunter Unwraps Savvy New Theory on JFK's Death
From Conserev1 | 04/04/2013 9:09:29 PM PDT new

Well screw you too dip wad!


32 posted on 04/05/2013 6:07:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I’m reading it now, and it looks to be a nice closing of “loose ends” from the first Swagger book, Point of Impact.


33 posted on 04/05/2013 6:09:25 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: cuban leaf
Want to blow your mind a bit more...
What if the one witness who could disprove all the other shooter theories really want him dead anyway?
How long would Jackie have taken JFK's blatant cheating on her? How cooperative would any of the women you know be with finding the killer of someone who has just rid the world of the man who brought her so much pain?
It worked for her too.
34 posted on 04/05/2013 7:19:07 PM PDT by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS... We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? The Dems care!)
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To: Boogieman
Not if the guy in the sewer had a "around the corner" bullet deflectors like Germans had developed for their tank crews and urban assault troops in WWII.
That conveniently gets rid of the bullet too. The bullet started to break up within a few yards of having gone through the deflector/trajectory changer,,,
It goes through his head and moving up and away from most on the ground and areas it might have landed and been found if whole.

More than convenient for all involved....
35 posted on 04/05/2013 7:28:31 PM PDT by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS... We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? The Dems care!)
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To: cuban leaf
Does not hold water when you remember that those who benefited first from homes they could not qualify for were the huddled masses who that film is says were the ones hurt.
As we saw in 2008-now the one really hurt were the citizens who had money in those institutions.

The ones who made out were the Raines (SP) and Gorelecs, Dodes, and Franks et al from the Dem party....
36 posted on 04/05/2013 7:37:24 PM PDT by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS... We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? The Dems care!)
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To: JSteff

Glad you liked the mail! SunkenCiv I’m sure you loved the second one!


37 posted on 04/05/2013 7:49:15 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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No surprise, Conserev1 can't name the witness, and had he/she/it "read some more" would have discovered that the "eyewitness" accounts shifted dramatically over a period of time, luckily the first versions were written down at the time to show the change.
Re: 'The Third Bullet' Review: Stephen Hunter Unwraps Savvy New Theory on JFK's Death
From Conserev1 | 04/05/2013 7:46:35 PM PDT read

Well la te da you’re one of these whiners that love to air private messages. since you posted the mail now I know your a dip wad! Dip Wad!!!! By the way there is an Eye witness that says he heard a shot from behind him and he was facinc the motorcade. Other winesses did see a puff of smoke from the fence area. So go read some more!




38 posted on 04/05/2013 8:04:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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JimRob really needs to offer a counseling service here on FR


39 posted on 04/05/2013 8:57:28 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Right, the police were on the knoll within seconds of the shooting. That’s probably why a lot of the knoll theories have to claim the shooter was in a police or secret service uniform, because it’s the only imaginable circumstance where the police might not have automatically apprehended a shooter in that location.

Of course, even if a shooter were so disguised, they would also have to, within seconds, dispose of their rifle, ammunition, and casings with such efficiency that none of the police who searched the area for hours and days afterwards ever found them. I’d pay to see that magic trick!


40 posted on 04/05/2013 9:11:21 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: JSteff

“What if the one witness who could disprove all the other shooter theories really want him dead anyway?”

One witness? The First Lady was not the only person in that automobile, and not even the only one who was not wounded by the fire, since that would be an obvious distraction from the scene around them.

Furthermore, if you watch the films, Jackie was in fact completely distracted, paying no attention to events outside of the car, because she was completely consumed by what was happening in the seat next to her. As soon as the President is struck the first time, she turns to him and is focused on him up to the point when the fatal shot strikes him. So, her value as a witness to who fired the shots seems negligible.


41 posted on 04/05/2013 9:19:44 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: JSteff

It’s not simply a matter of being able to point the gun out of the narrow sewer opening in the direction of the motorcade. Even if you could do that, any trajectory emanating from that point couldn’t have struck the President.

Firing towards the car from basically ground level, the bullet would have been traveling upwards, and could only strike the President by passing through the car. Yet, there are no bullet holes in the car, so we know that didn’t happen.

Remember, by the time the fatal shot was fired, Kennedy was leaning forward, with his head down, after being wounded in the throat. Since his seat was elevated, you might have still been able to aim a trajectory from a standing position at ground level. Against a shot from a prone position, which is what a sewer shot essentially would have been, Kennedy had cover.


42 posted on 04/05/2013 9:34:36 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: SunkenCiv
"So go read some more!"


43 posted on 04/05/2013 9:36:56 PM PDT by Boogieman
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