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Huge building complex unearthed in Iraq near ancient civilisation of Ur
ukmail ^ | UPDATED: 11:17 EST, 4 April 2013 | Hugo Gye

Posted on 04/05/2013 3:10:43 PM PDT by BenLurkin

British archaeologists have unearthed a giant complex near the ancient city of Ur in southern Iraq.

The area is believed to have been home to Abraham, father of Judaism, Christianity and Islam.

As the find is 4,000 years old, roughly the same age as Abraham himself, it raises the tantalising possibility of a direct link with one of history's most significant religious figures.

Complexes of that size from 2,000BC are extremely rare, according to Dr Campbell.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; ur

1 posted on 04/05/2013 3:10:43 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: SunkenCiv

ping


2 posted on 04/05/2013 3:11:00 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: BenLurkin

Abraham was not the father of Islam. The Muslims have rewritten history to make him one of their own. There was no Islam before Mohammed.


3 posted on 04/05/2013 3:18:37 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: beethovenfan

Actually Islam came from Ishmaels descendants, who was the son of Abraham and Hagar.


4 posted on 04/05/2013 3:23:17 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: beethovenfan

“Abraham was not the father of Islam. The Muslims have rewritten history to make him one of their own. There was no Islam before Mohammed.”

Ironically, Muslims are probably the direct descendants of Abraham than most Jews and almost all Christians.


5 posted on 04/05/2013 3:28:25 PM PDT by sagar
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To: sagar

Well Christians don’t claim to be descendants of Abraham unless they are both Jewish and Christian.

I have no idea how one could know what percentage of Jews or Muslims are descendants of Abraham.


6 posted on 04/05/2013 3:35:12 PM PDT by yarddog (Truth, Justice, and what was once the American Way.)
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To: BenLurkin

I wonder how many people will see the significance of Abraham being both father to Islam and Christianity. The story/revelation needs to note that Christianity stays with Abraham, Isach, David to Jesus. Islam today comes from Mohammed 500-600 years after Jesus and springs from a son born to Rachael who was put out of the tent of Abraham. I believe Mohammad created modern Islam as payback for people accepting Jesus as Christ. Islam continues to this day It’s payback in forms of subterfuge and hatred of Christians. Islam has no honest intent to have the USA be anything but under Koran law.


7 posted on 04/05/2013 3:36:45 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: BenLurkin
The area is believed to have been home to Abraham, father of Judaism, Christianity and Islam.

Abraham is the father of the Judaism, which in turn by extension to Christians as well since Judaism is the root of Christianity...

Abraham is the father of Arabs...which did not embrace the filthy dog vomit death cult of Islam until millennial later...

Pretty big stretch...

8 posted on 04/05/2013 4:08:38 PM PDT by Popman (Godlessness is always the first step to the concentration camp.)
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To: noinfringers2

“son born to Rachel” where do you get that?


9 posted on 04/05/2013 4:15:12 PM PDT by rusureitflies? (A person becomes lost when they reject the Holy Spirit.)
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To: BenLurkin

Foundation of the Tower of Babel.


10 posted on 04/05/2013 4:19:09 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: rusureitflies?

I think he meant Hagar.


11 posted on 04/05/2013 4:21:08 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: BenLurkin
Abraham, father of Judaism, Christianity and Islam

Sorry but Abraham is not the father of Islam. That right is reserved for Satan himself!
12 posted on 04/05/2013 5:08:59 PM PDT by glaseatr (Father of a Marine, Uncle of SGT Adam Estep. A Co. 2/5 Cav. KIA Thurs April 29, 2004 Baghdad Iraq)
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To: yarddog

“I have no idea how one could know what percentage of Jews or Muslims are descendants of Abraham.”

I don’t think Abraham’s DNA has been sequenced yet, so percent wise it is kind of hard at the moment. However, given the geographic proximity and ancient stories and scripts, people in the Middle East have higher changes of being descendants of Abraham.


13 posted on 04/05/2013 6:46:13 PM PDT by sagar
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To: BenLurkin; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks BenLurkin. related posts.

Just adding to the catalog, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


14 posted on 04/05/2013 9:02:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Popman

Stop insulting dogs.

:P


15 posted on 04/05/2013 9:10:04 PM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.....)
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To: rusureitflies?

Wrong woman. I should have said Hagar who was the mother of Ishmael and who was removed from Abraham’s house.


16 posted on 04/05/2013 10:03:59 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: noinfringers2

thanks... we need each other in this complex world.. keep the Faith.


17 posted on 04/06/2013 4:33:23 AM PDT by rusureitflies? (A person becomes lost when they reject the Holy Spirit.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Great stuff...thanks!


18 posted on 04/06/2013 6:06:51 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Pharmboy

It is great stuff but I notice how they refer to “western invasion” rather than “western liberation.”


19 posted on 04/06/2013 12:43:24 PM PDT by ZULU (See: http://gatesofvienna.net/)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Actually Islam came from Ishmaels descendants, who was the son of Abraham and Hagar.

Actually this is immaterial to the fact that Abraham did not father the religion of Islam. He may have fathered some of those who practice this religion, but he most assuredly did not father a religion based upon pure lies.

If a child of yours came up with a new religion that centered upon worshiping Satan, that would not mean that you fathered that religion.

20 posted on 04/06/2013 5:01:50 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: Bellflower

I never said Abraham fathered the Islam. I said he fathered Ishmael.


21 posted on 04/06/2013 5:09:34 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: noinfringers2
The story/revelation needs to note that Christianity stays with Abraham, Isaach, David to Jesus. Islam today comes from Mohammed 500-600 years after Jesus and springs from a son born to Rachael who was put out of the tent of Abraham.

Oh dear!!! I am sure you accidently miswrote Rachel down, instead of Hagar, who was the maid of Sarah, who mothered the child Ishmael. Ishmael was not the child of promise from God, but rather a child of unbelief. Isaac was the son of promise, who was mothered by Sarah.

Rachel was the beloved wife of Jacob, who was the mother of Joseph and Benjamin.

22 posted on 04/06/2013 5:11:22 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

OK, great! I guess it was the word “actually” that confused me. Glad you know that Abraham is not the father of Islam.


23 posted on 04/06/2013 5:13:14 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: noinfringers2

I see that you caught this mistake before my post. Sorry for the redundancy. Love my Rachel and wanted to set her wonderful record straight. God bless!


24 posted on 04/06/2013 5:16:12 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: Bellflower
Islam grew out of this.

Genesis 16: 11-12

The angel of the Lord also said to her (Hagar):

“You are now pregnant
and you will give birth to a son.
You shall name him Ishmael,
for the Lord has heard of your misery.
He will be a wild donkey of a man;
his hand will be against everyone
and everyone’s hand against him,
and he will live in hostility
toward all his brothers.”

25 posted on 04/06/2013 5:22:00 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: ZULU

Hey...we were lucky they didn’t blame the Christians and the Jews for destroying Ur.


26 posted on 04/06/2013 9:09:05 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Pharmboy

:)


27 posted on 04/07/2013 5:16:50 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://gatesofvienna.net/)
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