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TSA Calls it “Voluntarily Abandoned Property”
Cybercast News Service ^ | April 5, 2013 | Bob Parks

Posted on 04/05/2013 8:55:13 PM PDT by Olog-hai

It’s almost a cruel play on words.

You go to the airport and bring that which you know you’ll need for the trip. Transportation Security Administration employees rifle though your bags and find that bottle of shampoo that was a little too big or the can of deodorant that had a few too many ounces. They tell you that certain items in your possession cannot be taken on board the flight and you have to leave them behind.

The name they have for those goods is a hoot: “Voluntarily Abandoned Property.” …

It was my “property”, but after I “voluntarily abandon” it, where exactly does it go? Well, according to TSA Management Directive No. 200.52:

VAP deposited in collection bins shall not be recovered by, and will not be returned to, passengers. Upon voluntary abandonment of the prohibited item, the item immediately becomes the property of the Federal Government.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Society; Travel
KEYWORDS: bush; legaltheft; obama; socialism; tsa

1 posted on 04/05/2013 8:55:13 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai; shibumi

Much like the earthly goods of those who were accused of witchcraft.


2 posted on 04/05/2013 8:57:47 PM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.....)
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To: Olog-hai

Stockpiling doomsday bunkers for the elite.


3 posted on 04/05/2013 8:57:49 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Olog-hai

That which the gods of government want to destroy the first make a privilege.


4 posted on 04/05/2013 8:58:02 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Olog-hai

             


T otalitarian
S tate
A pparatchik

5 posted on 04/05/2013 9:04:44 PM PDT by tomkat ( if FReepers start goin' quiet, it's finally ON . . no gulags for me, whatever the cost)
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To: Olog-hai

They took my daughter’s insulin without her knowledge before a trans-Atlantic flight. Pilot had to radio NY to get permission to use the emergency supply on board.


6 posted on 04/05/2013 9:06:33 PM PDT by alpo (What would Selco do?)
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To: alpo
My lawyer and I would still be fishing in the Gulf of Mexico if they did that to my daughter.

They need to feel the pain when they risk lives.

/johnny

7 posted on 04/05/2013 9:12:54 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Olog-hai
I would open that too-large bottle of shampoo and spray it all over those benighted bastards! And God help them if they tried to pat down my wife or daughter!



"Riamh nár dhruid ó sbairn lann!"

Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

8 posted on 04/05/2013 9:13:43 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: Olog-hai

The last time I flew, and it was the last time, my wife brought some very expensive hand lotion. It was an 8 oz bottle but she made sure it was less than half full. We made to our destination. But on the return flight she was told she couldn’t bring it on board because it was in a bottle that was too big.

But, to show how stupid they are, they sell little packages of 4 4-oz bottles. So, you can take 16 oz on board but not all in the same bottle.


9 posted on 04/05/2013 9:14:26 PM PDT by Terry Mross (This country will fail to exist in my lifetime. And I'm gettin' up there in age.)
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To: Olog-hai

My daughter’s first ever boyfriend bought her some expensive (for a teen) lotion and perfume in a cute little carrying case. It was, maybe,1 oz to big. The women wanted to take it but my daughter took both containers and threw them in the garbage and walked off teary eyed. Not a big deal but I think the TSA chick just wanted to steal it. She probably took it out of the garbage after we left.


10 posted on 04/05/2013 9:25:42 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: Olog-hai
I had a business trip I couldn't get out of. I have a colostomy and a massive hernia at the site, so it's very obvious. I was escorted into a private room where a TSA agent tried to get me to remove my colostomy pouch. Since I use a 2 piece pouch, I "burped" it for him and that convinced him he didn't want me to empty it for him then and there. I didn't mention that I had deodorant spray with me, so I left that room REALLY stinking.

I found out later that there's a TSA regulation that PROHIBITS TSA agents from demanding the removal of a medical appliance (like a colostomy pouch) or an prosthetic, and if I ever fly again, I'll be printing it out and carrying it with me to present to the agents.

Mark

11 posted on 04/05/2013 10:02:49 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Olog-hai

Pull out your heater and blast ‘em.


12 posted on 04/05/2013 10:05:43 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: MacMattico

Re: TSA goons trying to steal property using their authority.

The late General Joe Foss was flying to a US Marine function. He had his Congressional Medal of Honor with him, and one of the TSA goons told him he would have to surrender it. Well, there were other marines waiting in line to go through security, and they nearly caused a riot!

Eventually, they decided that the General’s medal wasn’t that big a threat and allowed him to board the plane.

Mark


13 posted on 04/05/2013 10:08:15 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Olog-hai

Where’s the “just compensation”?

Where are the banks of coin-op lockers, like bus & train stations used to have?


14 posted on 04/05/2013 11:54:01 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Too easy to plant bombs in them.


15 posted on 04/05/2013 11:56:53 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Not for post-security check.


16 posted on 04/05/2013 11:57:32 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: ApplegateRanch
Wait are you talking about Post Security check by TSA Goobers? You know the ones who have failed several times in the last few months when Fake Bombs were purposely planted in Carry-ons to see if the TSA Goobers could detect such.

Like I said, too easy to plant bombs in them. And in there they would harm the Union TSA workers so they aren't gonna allow that. hehehe

17 posted on 04/06/2013 12:01:49 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Olog-hai

The TSA is the biggest money-sucking boondoggle in the US government, far ahead of the BATFE - and that’s saying something.


18 posted on 04/06/2013 2:13:21 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: DManA
The top airports across the U.S. for TSA employees fired for theft are:

1. Miami International Airport (29)

2. JFK International Airport (27)

3. Los Angeles International Airport (24)

4. Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport

(17) 5. Las Vegas-McCarren International Airport (15)

6. Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport and New York-Laguardia Airport (14 each)

8. Newark Liberty, Philadelphia International, and Seattle-Tacoma International airports (12 each)

11. Orlando International Airport (11)

12. Houston-George Bush Intercontinental Airport and Salt Lake City International Airport (10 each)

14. Washington Dulles International Airport (9)

15. Detroit Metro Airport and Louis Armstrong New Orleans International Airport (7)

17. Boston-Logan International, Denver International and San Diego International airports (6)

20. Chicago O'Hare International Airport (5)

You need to see the video at the news site; a real eye opener!

19 posted on 04/06/2013 4:40:24 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: MarkL
The late General Joe Foss was flying to a US Marine function. He had his Congressional Medal of Honor with him, and one of the TSA goons told him he would have to surrender it. Well, there were other marines waiting in line to go through security, and they nearly caused a riot! Eventually, they decided that the General’s medal wasn’t that big a threat and allowed him to board the plane. Mark

Now that gave me a smile I'll have for the next two days. I would be willing to bet large cash, that those Gyrenes would have pounded the holy crap out of the TSA flunky, field stripped any firearm he was carrying and politely start cramming the parts into pockets. I doubt any of the TSA Gestapo had any idea who Joe Foss is. I knew who he was when I was in the Third Grade.

The stories of the old 1st Marine Division reunions, when Col. Puller would speak and the WWII guys were still around their prime, are legendary. Think utterly destroyed meeting rooms. I had a old time Master Gunny with way more time on the sh*tter than I had in the Corps, shoot Chesty Puller stories all the time. They don't make people like that any more and we are the worse for it.
20 posted on 04/06/2013 4:46:09 AM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: Olog-hai

TSA? Definitely Bush’s fault.


21 posted on 04/06/2013 4:48:52 AM PDT by csvset
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To: Vigilanteman
From Norfolk, VA.

Judge sends TSA agent to jail for Norfolk airport theft

NORFOLK

A former TSA agent was sentenced Friday to six months in jail for stealing $520 from a passenger at Norfolk International Airport.

Circuit Judge Charles Poston sent former Transportation Security Administration supervisor John Irwin to jail for taking money from a screening tray while the passenger was being searched. Irwin, 60, had pleaded guilty to grand larceny.

The victim, a passenger from New York, was flying from Norfolk on Nov. 16, 2011, according to a stipulation of facts filed with the court. The passenger told a TSA agent that he had a medical condition and needed to be patted down, the report says.

The man emptied his pockets and placed a pen and $520 cash in a gray bin. An agent told the passenger he needed additional screening. The passenger objected but followed the agent to a private area, the report states.

Irwin took the pen and money from the bin and put it into a drawer, the report says. When the passenger returned and asked about his money, Irwin said he hadn't seen or heard anything about it. The passenger reported the incident to Norfolk airport police, the report says.

Irwin had recognized the passenger as the man who had given his fellow employees a "hard time," the report says. "I just didn't let on that I had the money," Irwin told police.

In court, defense attorney Michael S. Davis argued Irwin was stressed by family and financial problems and had a rare lapse of judgment. Davis said his client worked at the TSA for several years and had no criminal record. Irwin apologized in court.

But prosecutor Suzanne Richmond told the judge that Irwin was in uniform when he stole the money. She said Irwin told investigators he was mad at the passenger for complaining about the additional screening. "This is not a normal case," she said.

Louis Hansen, 757-446-2341, louis.hansen@pilotonline.com [1]

22 posted on 04/06/2013 4:56:40 AM PDT by csvset
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To: Olog-hai
I used to love hopping on an airliner, flying somewhere I'd never been before, and enjoying a leisurely vacation.

Fly somewhere today? Not a chance.

23 posted on 04/06/2013 5:05:41 AM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: Olog-hai

If you fly you are sponsoring, enabling, and supporting tyranny.

“I have to fly.”

If you pay income tax you are sponsoring, enabling, and supporting tyranny.

“I have to work.”

No, you don’t, and no, you don’t.


24 posted on 04/06/2013 5:16:51 AM PDT by HomeAtLast ( You're either with the Tea Party, or you're with the EBT Party.)
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To: csvset

Its the fault of the taxpayer because we don’t pay these poor TSA folks who couldn’t hold a job at McDonald’s salaries equivalent to postal workers or public school teachers.


25 posted on 04/06/2013 5:37:34 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Olog-hai

Voluntary abandonment? VOLUNTARY? It isn’t voluntary. It’s compliance because the traveler doesn’t have any other frickin’ choice! IF a woman complies with a rapist who threatens her life, is that VOLUNTARY intercourse? Hell no. It’s rape. She didn’t have a choice.


26 posted on 04/06/2013 1:03:33 PM PDT by TSA-Watch (TSA-Watch.com)
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To: Mad Dawgg
Wait are you talking about Post Security check by TSA Goobers?

You got it: they'd be the ones standing in front of the lockers!

27 posted on 04/06/2013 8:05:41 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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