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Alabama Set To Pardon ‘Scottsboro Boys’ Over Racist Rape Convictions
News One ^ | Apr 5, 2013

Posted on 04/07/2013 6:43:10 PM PDT by nickcarraway

The legacy of the “Scottsboro Boys” is secure: The nine black teens were wrongly convicted more than 80 years ago in one of America’s most infamous racial tragedies. Alabama is now moving to repair its own legacy, and correct past injustices, with a bill to allow posthumous pardons for the group.

On Thursday, the state House voted 103-0 in favor of legislation setting up a procedure to pardon the teens, who were falsely accused of rape by two white women in 1931. The Senate had passed the bill earlier, 29-0. Gov. Robert Bentley has indicated he will sign it. “This is great for Alabama. It was long overdue,” said Democratic state Rep. Laura Hall of Huntsville, who sponsored the bill in the House.

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TOPICS: History; Local News
KEYWORDS: scottsboro; scottsboroboys

1 posted on 04/07/2013 6:43:10 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Because God knows that the Alabama legislature has nothing more important to do than to pass meaningless gestures.


2 posted on 04/07/2013 6:45:08 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: 0.E.O

And now we do the flip side with the Zimmerman case!


3 posted on 04/07/2013 6:47:40 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Go Galt!)
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To: 0.E.O

It might be meaningless to you, but its not meaningless to their families. Why is righting a past wrong (or at least attempting to) a bad thing?


4 posted on 04/07/2013 6:49:29 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: 0.E.O
Because God knows that the Alabama legislature has nothing more important to do than to pass meaningless gestures.

It costs nothing and it's not as if they're splitting the atom there. And if this gesture helps sustain Alabama's challenge to the Voting Rights Act before the Supreme Court, so much the better...

5 posted on 04/07/2013 6:52:08 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: bigdaddy45

I agree. It doesn’t have to be expensive or time consuming but give the families some peace.

Justice delayed is justice denied.


6 posted on 04/07/2013 6:52:52 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: bigdaddy45
It might be meaningless to you, but its not meaningless to their families. Why is righting a past wrong (or at least attempting to) a bad thing?

I didn't say it was a bad thing. I said it was a meaningless gesture. The last one died thirty-odd years ago. What good does this do him now?

7 posted on 04/07/2013 6:56:02 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: Zhang Fei
It costs nothing and it's not as if they're splitting the atom there. And if this gesture helps sustain Alabama's challenge to the Voting Rights Act before the Supreme Court, so much the better...

And if that's their purpose then the gesture becomes even more meaningless.

8 posted on 04/07/2013 6:58:03 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: 0.E.O
I didn't say it was a bad thing. I said it was a meaningless gesture. The last one died thirty-odd years ago. What good does this do him now?

Their descendants presumably have a stake in this.

9 posted on 04/07/2013 6:59:17 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: nickcarraway

They should have been pardoned long ago. Now, can we draw some attention to the actual rapes going on as we speak?


10 posted on 04/07/2013 7:01:28 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: 0.E.O
I don't think I've seen you here before.

Welcome to Free Republic.

/johnny

11 posted on 04/07/2013 7:01:40 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: nickcarraway
A pardon for an offense they did not commit?

I would prefer to see the case reopened and a "Not Guilty" judgment entered nunc pro tunc notwithstanding the original verdict, which was unjust from the outset.



"Riamh nár dhruid ó sbairn lann!"

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12 posted on 04/07/2013 7:01:47 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: nickcarraway

TV movie made about it back in 1976. The script was written to show they were innocent.

Victoria Price, one of the women who claimed to be raped, sued the producers for libel and invasion of privacy.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074723/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/scottsboro/SB_BPric.html

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/scottsboro/peopleevents/p_price.html


13 posted on 04/07/2013 7:01:52 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The murals in OKC are destroyed.)
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To: 0.E.O

There was a story about a Korean War Chaplain who was awarded the Medal of Honor yesterday. He died over 60 years ago. What good did that do him now?


14 posted on 04/07/2013 7:02:01 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: bigdaddy45
There was a story about a Korean War Chaplain who was awarded the Medal of Honor yesterday. He died over 60 years ago. What good did that do him now?

You don't see any difference between the two?

15 posted on 04/07/2013 7:05:18 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: nickcarraway

women don’t lie about being raped. ever ever ever.


16 posted on 04/07/2013 7:05:32 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: ConorMacNessa

Kinda like Ramos and Compean.

I’m sure they were happy to get out of prison but the convictions never should have happened in the first place.


17 posted on 04/07/2013 7:06:57 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: nickcarraway

Just how do they know they were innocent?

I would not trust any media investigation made in the last 50 years involving race.


18 posted on 04/07/2013 7:07:02 PM PDT by yarddog (Truth, Justice, and what was once the American Way.)
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To: 0.E.O

By your logic, no. One is honored for his past deeds, and one has his name cleared. Regardless, they’re both dead. Why are you so opposed to this?


19 posted on 04/07/2013 7:07:07 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: Zhang Fei
Their descendants presumably have a stake in this.

Nothing in the story indicates the descendants were involved. Just some Democrat.

20 posted on 04/07/2013 7:08:20 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: Secret Agent Man

Yes, and Blacks never never ever rape White women.


21 posted on 04/07/2013 7:08:26 PM PDT by yarddog (Truth, Justice, and what was once the American Way.)
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To: yarddog

Of course they do. But the evidence is pretty strong in this case that these particular guys didn’t.


22 posted on 04/07/2013 7:09:32 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: bigdaddy45
Why are you so opposed to this?

I'm just pointing out that it's meaningless.

23 posted on 04/07/2013 7:09:57 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: 0.E.O

And why is giving a guy the Medal of Honor 60 years after he’s dead not meaningless?


24 posted on 04/07/2013 7:10:59 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: 0.E.O
And if that's their purpose then the gesture becomes even more meaningless.

It's a worthy purpose - the VRA has been interpreted to mean that Southern states cannot impose any ID requirement for voting, thereby opening the door to votes by non-citizens. Showing progress on past racial iniquities is a good way of dispelling the idea that Jim Crow is alive and well in Alabama. I believe it's still being argued in the Supreme Court. We'll see how that goes. It's kind of amusing how long-extinct Jim Crow laws are now being used by liberals as a means to help non-citizens vote.

25 posted on 04/07/2013 7:11:23 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei
It's a worthy purpose - the VRA has been interpreted to mean that Southern states cannot impose any ID requirement for voting, thereby opening the door to votes by non-citizens. Showing progress on past racial iniquities is a good way of dispelling the idea that Jim Crow is alive and well in Alabama. I believe it's still being argued in the Supreme Court. We'll see how that goes. It's kind of amusing how long-extinct Jim Crow laws are now being used by liberals as a means to help non-citizens vote.

I don't have a problem dropping the geographic restrictions on the Voting Rights Act and making all states comply with the same requirements the Southern states have had to. But again, if that's the reason for this bill then that moves it beyond the meaningless gesture to an act of hypocrisy. Didn't do it because it was the right thing to do but because it might get them some benefit.

26 posted on 04/07/2013 7:15:30 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: 0.E.O
You don't see any difference between the two?

I'd say being falsely accused of rape has much more negative consequences for the person involved than not getting a Medal of Honor.

27 posted on 04/07/2013 7:16:19 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: nickcarraway

The irony is that 10 times more such incidents of what today is called “wilding” are happening today. Bands of young black men going on vicious rampages against just about anyone are common.

Instead of arresting them, some citizen will eventually be armed and a good enough shot to execute a whole bunch of them on the spot. And of course, the usual suspects will damn him for defending his life.


28 posted on 04/07/2013 7:19:53 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: 0.E.O
I don't have a problem dropping the geographic restrictions on the Voting Rights Act and making all states comply with the same requirements the Southern states have had to. But again, if that's the reason for this bill then that moves it beyond the meaningless gesture to an act of hypocrisy. Didn't do it because it was the right thing to do but because it might get them some benefit.

Hypocrisy in politics? Why, what a novel idea...

29 posted on 04/07/2013 7:21:43 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

I’d do away with the voting rights act altogether. It may have had its place at one time but that time has long passed. We’ve got a “must ask” ID requirement in Michigan. Its not perfect but it does help.


30 posted on 04/07/2013 7:28:21 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: nickcarraway

Bottom line is; it makes no difference whether they were black, white, yellow, or purple. If there is proof they didn’t commit the crime, they should be exonerated. I’m sure their relatives will find some peace in that.


31 posted on 04/07/2013 8:10:54 PM PDT by deweyfrank
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To: deweyfrank
I’m sure their relatives will find some peace in that.

.....and sue for damages. Mark my words, somebody is going to try to make a buck out of this.

32 posted on 04/07/2013 8:42:15 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: yarddog

“Just how do they know they were innocent?”

Because they only had a few fancy dan lawyers including mobster Mad Dog Cole’s NY lawyer Samuel Leibowitz.

The Scottsboro boys were the most over-represented defendents in history.

PS: They were guilty.


33 posted on 04/07/2013 11:20:13 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Monterrosa-24

Make that Mad Dog Coll (not Cole).


34 posted on 04/07/2013 11:23:28 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Monterrosa-24

No, they weren’t guilty. One of the alleged victims admitted that neither of them had been raped.


35 posted on 11/21/2013 2:20:23 PM PST by Coronal
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