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Auburn Man Facing Charges After Killing Bear In His Backyard
CBS Local (Boston) ^ | April 7, 2013 | Auburn CBS

Posted on 04/09/2013 1:33:39 PM PDT by Altariel

Richard Ahlstrand told WBZ-TV he was stocking his bird feeder Friday night when a bear about seven feet tall and 300-to-400 pounds started chasing him.

That’s when he turned his shotgun on the bear.

“I didn’t have time to aim through the sights, but I aimed in the direction of the head on this thing and I pulled the trigger before it got to me. It just dropped,” he said.

Ahlstrand said he was carrying the shotgun Friday night because he thought he saw the bear in his yard Thursday.

“If that ever jumped on me, I wouldn’t even be here right know, I don’t think. I know it was going to seriously maul me,” he said.

Ahlstrand is now charged with illegally killing a bear, illegally baiting a bear, illegal possession of a firearm and failing to secure a weapon.

Authorities believed the female bear had cubs. Ahlstrand says he feels bad about that, but he believes he being unfairly labeled.

“They got me set up now like I’m some kind of murderer. And then the environmental guy told me ‘You should have called me instead of shooting it.’ What was I going to do, say ‘Mister Bear would excuse me please while I go make a phone call?’”

Police don’t believe the bear was a threat to people.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: banglist; bear; boston; guncontrol; massachusetts; secondamendment; selfdefense; shootingbear; wildlife; yesterday

1 posted on 04/09/2013 1:33:39 PM PDT by Altariel
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To: Altariel
Richard Ahlstrand told WBZ-TV he was stocking his bird feeder Friday night when a bear about seven feet tall and 300-to-400 pounds started chasing him.

Now, if police don't seem to think a momma bear with cubs chasing someone might be a threat, then why in the hell do they shoot all those nice loveable little puppy dogs?

Heck, the biggest pit bull I have seen couldn't have been a third as tall as that cuddly momma bear, and would weigh in waay lighter to boot.

2 posted on 04/09/2013 1:42:15 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Altariel

I’m hearing conflicting reports. The first said he had a shotgun with him when he went out to the bird feeder. The second suggests he saw the bear when he went out, went back to the house and returned to his backyard with a shotgun and shot the bear.

If he was surprised by the bear and had a shotgun in his hands, I certainly don’t blame him for shooting. If saw the bear, went inside to get his shotgun and then went back out, that’s hunting out of season without a license or poaching.


3 posted on 04/09/2013 1:43:59 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Shoot the golden retrievers and the dachshunds and the chihuahuas, for the goal of a cowed, quiet populace.

Let the Peasants imagine themselves in Fido’s place, and remember they serve The State!


4 posted on 04/09/2013 1:44:32 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

I live in a neighborhood of 6 acre lots in woods; way out of town. My neighbor lady came over and, in her southern accent said, “I hit a turkey with my car. Brought him home and fried him right up. And, somebody kilt a dear up thar at the front. Sweet little thing. Backed up and put it in my trunk. You want some hamburger...Oh, no! It’re good. Weren’t no flies on it or nothin’.” So, if I shot a bear in my backyard, I’d walk over to Vivian’s and says, “Want a bear?” She’d say, “I hert you firin’. Was just commin’ to see. Drag his ass over here.”


5 posted on 04/09/2013 1:44:39 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Altariel
Auburn Man Facing Charges After Killing Bear In His Backyard

I thought he died in 1983.

6 posted on 04/09/2013 1:45:14 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Gen.Blather

“dear=deer” Twenty lashes...


7 posted on 04/09/2013 1:46:13 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Altariel
"If I had a son........"


8 posted on 04/09/2013 1:46:45 PM PDT by massmike (At least no one is wearing a "Ron Paul - 2016" tee shirt........yet!)
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To: Gen.Blather

Stocking a Bird Feeder is “Bear Baiting”?


9 posted on 04/09/2013 1:47:10 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Altariel
Auburn Man Facing Charges After Killing Bear In His Backyard

I knew the Bama-Auburn rivalry was intense, but man I had no idea.

10 posted on 04/09/2013 1:48:58 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Altariel

The State is incredibly, hopelessly stupid (and indifferent).


11 posted on 04/09/2013 1:50:45 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: muir_redwoods

Shooting a bear on your property isn’t hunting. It’s self-defense.


12 posted on 04/09/2013 1:51:41 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: massgopguy
Police don’t believe the bear was a threat to people.

And, the bear was only a threat to this guy, not "people."

This guy doesn't count.

-PJ

13 posted on 04/09/2013 1:52:31 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Altariel

“Police don’t believe the bear was a threat to people.”

When Americans need for a policeman to have an opinion, they will give him one. Until such time, police are public servants, NOT issuers of mandatory advice/opinions to the public.

“Ahlstrand is now charged with illegally killing a bear, illegally baiting a bear, illegal possession of a firearm and failing to secure a weapon.”

Quite a collection of Taxachussetts violations, and deserving of a closer look.
1. Accused of illegally killing a bear. Basic charge, and the filing of it violates the man’s right to armed self defense. If the bear exhibited aggressive behavior, and such was the acused’s description of what happened, then the Masshole officials are violating this man’s Constitution guarantee to self defense and are so doing under color of law.
2. Since when is having a bird feeder “baiting a bear”??????
3. How possession of a long gun in ones home/home property can be defined as illegal escapes me. Obviously, I didn’t live in Taxachussetts long enough to understand the “Masshole Way”.
4.”Failing to secure a firearm?” He used it to shoot the bear! How can a ‘secured’ weapon be used to defend oneself?
Answer up, Massholes! Inquiring minds want to know.


14 posted on 04/09/2013 1:52:36 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."..)
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To: Altariel
Police don’t believe the bear was a threat to people.

Dogs, on the other hand...

15 posted on 04/09/2013 2:00:37 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: Altariel
The following is excerpted from Officer Friendly's Handy-Dandy Threat Matrix:

PERPETRATOR QUALIFIER THREAT STATUS PERMISSIBLE RESPONSE
Dog family pet threat (to police) shoot (police only)
Bear mother of cubs? NOT a threat (to non-police) DO NOT shoot (non-police only)

Source


16 posted on 04/09/2013 2:07:32 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: muir_redwoods

If someone can’t shoot a BEAR on his own property, there is something seriously wrong.


17 posted on 04/09/2013 2:11:27 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: PghBaldy

Don’t you know?

Bears are cute and cuddly and only want to have a small smackerel of honey before toddling off to visit piglets and rabbits...


18 posted on 04/09/2013 2:31:51 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

This just in from the ASSociated Presstitutes:

It wasn’t a bear. It was an “undocumented omnivorous ursid”, and the shooter violated its civil rights.


19 posted on 04/09/2013 2:35:50 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Arguing with a marxist is like playing Chess with a Pigeon.)
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To: Altariel

I don’t think the auburn police or the MA EPA will see it that way if he had a chance to stay indoors after he saw it and went indoors to get his shotgun. I just drove through Auburn and I believe it’s homes with 1/4 acre lots, not a prudent place to be discharging a shotgun in a panic.


20 posted on 04/09/2013 2:50:00 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: muir_redwoods

Ahhh, so what matters is whether government employees believe you have a right to defend yourself and your loved ones?

Do you typically take the “hide in your home” stance when an American is faced with a dangerous threat and must retrieve a means of self-defense?


21 posted on 04/09/2013 2:55:27 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

I Don’t but I don’t live in MA. In MA he’s in trouble just for having a loaded shotgun within reach. I’m just reporting the facts; he’s screwed, it’s a question of how much.


22 posted on 04/09/2013 2:58:08 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Gen.Blather

LOL


23 posted on 04/09/2013 2:59:28 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: muir_redwoods

He may be in trouble with The State, but that doesn’t mean that he acted inappropriately.

It is the State, not the man, who is in the wrong.


24 posted on 04/09/2013 2:59:38 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

Well if you want to live on a quarter acre lot with a panicy guy next door shooting a shotgun he didn’t, by his own admission, aim, my advice would be to not spend a lot on windows.


25 posted on 04/09/2013 3:04:29 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: muir_redwoods; kanawa
Ahh, so now he's a panicy guy liable to shoot off a shotgun at any time without warning. How fastening that you continue to try to paint him as in the wrong. Unlike you, I don't blame a man for panicking when a fully grown bear is charging at him (or on his property). I remind you that one of our own took down an attacking bear with a knife. (Hello, Kanawa: for any noobs or lurkers reading this: Man (Freeper Kanawa) stabs bear to death) I expect his sensible, conservative neighbors are grateful there is one fewer aggressive bear which could have easily have tried to attack one of their children playing outside. You seem determined to cast the blame on the victim of a bear attack, and not cast the blame on government employees who dare to place the value of a bear above the value of a man.
26 posted on 04/09/2013 3:16:15 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

Okay, like a dog with a bone, you want to keep playing with this one. Go ahead, leave me out if it. But do get back to me if you find a skeet range with 1/4 acre zoning


27 posted on 04/09/2013 3:34:32 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Altariel; kanawa

Your pardon, I should have said “a knife and a wonderful dog”.

:-)


28 posted on 04/09/2013 4:18:20 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel
Police don’t believe the bear was a threat to people.

The same police who claim to have no obligation to actually "protect?" But they will collect your body in their spiffy SWAT outfits and deliver it to the coroner, whether the result of a human criminal or a bear. That police?

Ask for a jury trial, and then sue these megalomaniacs for malicious prosecution, pain and suffering.No fair impartial jury would convict. If I am dispensing "benefit of doubt," human or bear would be a no-brainer. Specially if the humans are paying my salary.

29 posted on 04/09/2013 5:37:39 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: massgopguy

Judging from your screen name, you must consider the State. Once you marry men with men, its all downhill.


30 posted on 04/09/2013 8:03:48 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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