Skip to comments.Worst PC sales drop in history
Posted on 04/10/2013 5:45:14 PM PDT by Olog-hai
PC sales certainly havent been good over the past year or so, but this past quarter was record-setting bad.
Shipments of PCs fell 14% worldwide last quarter, according to IDC. It was the worst yearly decline since IDC began tracking the data in 1994.
Bob ODonnell, a vice president at IDC, said in the companys report that the Windows 8 launch not only failed to provide a positive boost to the PC market, but appears to have slowed the market.
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Approaching market saturation. Its the way things work.
Windows 8 is MS’s way of telling the consumer to buy a Mac. My wife’s laptop died last month and I had to buy her a new one (with Win 8). Win 8 is the kludgiest piece of crap ever!
Win8 is not bad if you set it up right. Defaulting to the tiles instead of the desktop was a huge mistake.
I guess that means klunky and ugly.
Countdown until the Microsoft vendors/salesmen find this thread and claim Windows 8 is really great but we are just stupid to realize how brilliant it and Bill Gates are
In 3, 2, 1.....
A kludge is a program that works by accident, IOW the programmer made it work but doesn’t know why or how it works. Usually the result of making up the code as you go along instead of having a plan.
The irony is that the piece of hardware designed to showcase Win8, the Surface Pro, is a fine piece of machinery whose sales, at least in my personal case, are being hurt by the OS it’s trying to flog. A Surface Pro running iOS, now, that’d be cool, especially with the Microsoft logo on the bottom of the screen...of course, that would probably cause a black hole and suck the earth into it...
Biggest problem with Windows 8 is that the interface that’s optimized for phones and tablets is also the default for desktop and laptop PCs. I got mine to work like Windows 7 with no help from MS. The only reason I upgraded from 7 was to test my code in the Win8 environment.
As a developer I avoid iOS because of the up-front cost of entry into the market. There are a lot of very robust development tools for Windows and Android that are free.
Three weeks ago I bought a new Sony Vaio laptop. It’s a dream, with Windows 8 and all its bells and whistles and bang for the buck. I brought it home, installed Office, Adobe Suite and such, and zoom. It would not boot up.
I went back to Fry’s and they confirmed it was kludge.
So, I decided on a 15” MacBook Pro. It works like a computer should. It cost more, but I can now rely on my computer.
Buy best; cry once.
I was hoping I would be able to squeeze a few more years out of this PC thing, that started in the 90’s for me. It has been a great ride, and for the most part I enjoyed it.
And now something else has reared it's head that may provide me a few more years of compensation-Old people (half of my customer base) don't want to use (LEARN) Tablets, readers, smart phones etc...they just want to be left alone with their ol Dell Dimension running Win XP, Well I can fix that and make them happy and my solution does not involve Win 8. Yes I'm probably talking about your Auntie, admit it, you cringe when you see the Caller ID!
>>Win8 is not bad if you set it up right. Defaulting to the tiles instead of the desktop was a huge mistake.
Exactly. Win 8 is NOT BAD...IF you set it up right. IMO, version 8 of anything should be better than version 7. I’m an IT guy so trust me when I say that I know a little bit about computers. I have her computer set up now to make it productive, but the OS should not default out to a GUI that turns it into a tablet—especially when my tablet is an iPad that is infinitely better than the Win 8 tiles!
My client base (small business owners) don’t care about the bells & whistles or the OS, they just want something that works. That’s why all my apps are 32-bit and will run on anything XP or later.
>>A kludge is a program that works by accident, IOW the programmer made it work but doesnt know why or how it works. Usually the result of making up the code as you go along instead of having a plan.
Not necessarily. A kludgy program is also one that is just a collection of disjointed features that gives it the look and feel of something created by committee. As you said, a program without a plan.
I would surely buy a Mac before getting a Win8 machine.
Win8 is just a sick knockoff of a Mac computer. Love Mac, or hate’em; why not just get the real thing?
Quite to my surprise my 76 year old sister in law bought a desktop with windows 8 and likes it. She had an older machine using 7 that died. I had suggested she buy a replacement direct from dell and have it set up with Windows 7 so if she had a problem I could help out.
I have 2 laptops and 2 tablets. I will be replacing the older XP laptop at the end of the year and will consider 8.
Who offers Desktops with Linux?
I’m only 59, and I’m already at that point. I have an eMachine running Vista with every bell and whistle turned off. I don’t want a tablet or a smartphone. I use Chrome, Firefox, Diamond Cut Audio Restoration Tools, OpenOffice, and VLC Media Player, Replay AV for podcatching and converting stuff, and that’s it.
Once your hardware is 1080P capable, there’s no real need for faster hardware.
>Not necessarily. A kludgy program is also one that is just a collection of disjointed features that gives it the look and feel of something created by committee. As you said, a program without a plan.
Not necessarily. A kludge is also a quick and dirty code fix to a bug, or a weird, non-standard (code wise), inelegant addition of a feature demanded by the user(s.) Because that may be the only way to do it.
>>Not necessarily. A kludge is also a quick and dirty code fix to a bug, or a weird, non-standard (code wise), inelegant addition of a feature demanded by the user(s.) Because that may be the only way to do it.
That’s what I meant by a program created by a committee.
I miss the ol’ Packard Bells, man I made allot of money back then in Retail Tech Support....
“Countdown until the Microsoft vendors/salesmen find this thread and claim Windows 8 is really great but we are just stupid to realize how brilliant it and Bill Gates are”
Sounds like the democrats talking about obamacare
So true. I learned to be proficient with my computer and mouse. Why change something that isn't broke?
Also boomers have already done "spluge"; now they are into "frugile" MS would be wise to come out with a Senior version of Windows 8 that resembled Windows 7... with a Senior discount, of course.
Word is they were inundated with complaints from potential customers who were refusing to buy their new computers if they sold with Windows 8
Is this about hardware and software, or the Obama Depression?
If you hate it, you should just buy it anyway?
What happened to the "buy what you like" mantra?
Independent vendors do, or you can by a barebones kit and install it yourself.
I have Windows 7 on my desktop PC and love it. I made the mistake of mentioning to my brother last year that I was looking at getting a lap top for trips out of town and he bought one as a gift for me last Christmas. It has Windows 8. Horrible, horrible! I never would have bought a computer with Windows 8 if I had a choice, but now I'm stuck.
“Adequacy is sufficient”
In the end, you're probably still saving money. I got six years out of my iMac before my toddler knocked it off the desk and broke the screen. I could probably fix it if I really wanted to but it is so old I can't upload the latest version of iOS so I'm holding off for a Mac Mini. It was still running strong and virus-free though. MacBooks are the same way. You'll probably have replaced a Windows laptop twice before you need to replace your MacBook.
I do not think the problem is W/8 or MS, but that too many people had PCs that do not really need them, or need a better one, as most all they do is surf and email. To write you could even use MS 3.1 with MS Office or 9X with OpenOffice.
Agree, Win 8 sucks big time. I much prefer a mac.
If you don’t like the UI, just install Server Core.
My MacBook Pro 15 inch was manufactured the 18th week of 2008 (May). Still running strong. Had a very small dim spot on the LCD panel that was replaced under warranty the week before the extended warranty expired. We’ve got a house full of Apple products and they all just work and work and work. Plus everything just works seamlessly as a system...the computers, the tablets, the Apple TV, the Time Machine, the iTunes store, the iPhones, the iPods, etc. If you like your stuff to just plain work the way it should and not crap out, you can’t go wrong with their products.
Just install Classic Shell for almost (but not quite) the same effect. It's free even without a Senior Discount.
Everybody’s got three of ‘em already....