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The Second Cooing: Raising Passenger Pigeons from the Dead
Der Spiegel ^ | April 12, 2013 11:13 AM | Philip Bethge

Posted on 04/12/2013 8:05:13 PM PDT by Olog-hai

The world has been without passenger pigeons since 1914. Now, scientists want to bring them back. Geneticist Ben Novak has embarked on the project and has begun collecting passenger pigeon DNA from natural history museums. His “de-extinction” efforts are not without critics. …

Novak, a researcher with the Long Now Foundation, a California think tank, wants to give the species a second chance. At the Museum of Vertebrate Zoology in Berkeley, Novak used a scalpel to slice small tissue samples from the red-painted toes of the passenger pigeons kept there. He hopes to isolate tiny bits of DNA from the samples and use them to assemble an entire genotype. His ultimate goal is the resurrection of the passenger pigeon. …

The art of breathing new life into long-extinct species is in vogue among biologists. The Tasmanian devil, the wooly rhinoceros, the mammoth, the dodo and the gastric-breeding frog are all on the list of candidates for revival. To recover the genetic makeup of species, experts cut pieces of tissue from stuffed zoological rarities, pulverize pieces of bone or search in the freezers of their institutions for samples of extinct animals. …

(Excerpt) Read more at spiegel.de ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Outdoors; Pets/Animals; Science
KEYWORDS: extinctanimals; extinctbirds; jurassicpark; passengerpigeon
Tasmanian devil is not extinct. Maybe they meant the thylacine?
1 posted on 04/12/2013 8:05:14 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
I have valid, if historic, recipes for passenger pigeon. They work ok with rock pigeons, but I would love a chance to try authentic passenger pigeon to see if there is a difference.

/johnny

2 posted on 04/12/2013 8:13:43 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Olog-hai

“Tasmanian devil is not extinct. Maybe they meant the thylacine?”

Beat me to it. (You’re forgiven this once. ;) )


3 posted on 04/12/2013 8:18:58 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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Sure you would ~ every piece I've read about them has been decidedly negative.

Do you have any idea how nasty their roosting areas get, and if it's the trees in your neighborhood you just lost your property for the next several decades.

Yeah, you could catch them with a net, but who would really want to do that for long ~ the ammonia would kill you.

4 posted on 04/12/2013 8:23:52 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: JRandomFreeper

This research must be stopped ~ he’s out of his mind!


5 posted on 04/12/2013 8:24:27 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Olog-hai

how about raising a few honest politicians from the dead, instead?


6 posted on 04/12/2013 8:24:28 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (()
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To: faithhopecharity
how about raising a few honest politicians from the dead,

They tried. There weren't any.

/johnny

7 posted on 04/12/2013 8:30:21 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Olog-hai

We need to bring back something that will eat liberals.


8 posted on 04/12/2013 8:35:39 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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Well if there aren’t any honest politicians, then that explains why they’re giving us full-of-sh#t birds that coo sweet nothings at you while crapping on our heads. (Hum... Quite like politicians anyway, eh?)


9 posted on 04/12/2013 8:40:08 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (()
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To: Olog-hai

He’s a witch! Burn him!


10 posted on 04/12/2013 8:41:50 PM PDT by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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Politicians are certainly full of fertilizer.

/johnny

11 posted on 04/12/2013 9:02:40 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: fidelis
Does he float like a duck or sink?

/johnny

12 posted on 04/12/2013 9:03:17 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: fidelis
"Ve had better confeerm the fect that he is, indeed, vollowing in his grandfather's vootshtops!"


13 posted on 04/12/2013 9:07:10 PM PDT by dfwgator
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What could possibly go wrong.


14 posted on 04/12/2013 9:47:11 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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I heard Passenger pigeons really tasted good—that’s why they went extinct—too many humans eating them. I say, bring em back, raise them on farms and serve them at the best restaurants!


15 posted on 04/12/2013 11:00:48 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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'sweet' is a relative value sort of thing. In an age when most people's idea of fresh meat was walking around out in the chicken yard the passenger pigeon was a break from the monotony. They were also very stupid and easily captured.

The packing methodology was simple ~ take a bird, put in barrel, take another bird, put in barrel, get a good layer, then cover with salt. Start over. Do that until you fill the barrel.

I think they took the feathers off much later.

Your alternative was my Great Great Grandfather and his meat wagon ~ they'd slaughter a steer. Chop it into various cuts. Sell off what they could of the ofal, et al, in town, then pack it in salt in boxes inside the wagon and go off on their regular rounds ~ which I believe took 3 days out, then 3 days back.

You didn't want to be the last customer on that route ~

16 posted on 04/13/2013 4:02:45 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

From what I understand, it was because they were simply cheap meat that could be hunted with ease, as they migrated in flocks that were miles wide and literally hundreds of miles long.

Even with that many birds, when they’re being trapped by the score with nets or blasted with veritable antiaircraft guns, over and over again, year after year...it adds up. (Or, in this case, takes away...until there weren’t enough left to survive predators and other natural attrition.)


17 posted on 04/13/2013 6:33:51 AM PDT by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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