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Don't Drop the Ball Augusta [Is Tiger about to be disqualified?]
John Lynch's Dad ^ | 4-12-13 | Blog

Posted on 04/12/2013 10:01:38 PM PDT by FlJoePa

Don't Drop the Ball, Augusta

On a day that so much attention was given to a rules infraction, it’s another rules infraction that everyone should be talking about.

We all know that 14 year old Guan Tianlang, competing at a level far beyond his age, was assessed a 1-stroke penalty for slow play. While basically nobody liked this ruling or agreed with it, it was technically correct.

USGA Rule 26 governs drops when a ball is in a water hazard. Per this rule, a player can replay the shot from “as nearly as possible from the spot from which the original ball was last played.” A player can also go back as far as he’d like keeping the flag and the point where the ball last crossed the margin of the hazard in line.

When Tiger Woods hit his approach into hole 15, his ball caromed off the flagstick and went into the water hazard near the front-left portion of the green. Per Tiger’s post-round comments, he then went back to where he played from, but went 2 yards farther back. When he did this, I tweeted “Whe did TW's ball last cross the margin of the hazard? Near the bleachers. Shouldn't he have dropped on that line, not the line he did?”

Clearly, Tiger could have dropped from his original spot, but admitting that he dropped 2 yards farther back eliminates the “re-hit” drop option from consideration. The only other option he had was to keep the point where the ball last crossed the margin in line with the flag.

As I stated above, the ball bounced off the stick and rolled off the front-left portion of the green and into the hazard. That is the point the ball last crossed the margin of the hazard, and that is the controlling point for the line Tiger needed to take his drop from.

It’s absolutely within the realm of possibility Tiger just assumed his ball crossed the hazard on the line he originally hit it (it did, at first), but that line does not control where you take your drop. Check out the last paragraph of this Rules Decision:

“If a ball last crossed the margin of a water hazard as described in the situation above, it appears that the ball crossed the margin of the hazard three times (e.g., first, the initial time it crossed; second, when it crossed over the hazard onto land; and third, when the ball rolled back into the hazard). So when the Rule states that the ball must be dropped “keeping the point where the ball last crossed the margin of the water hazard directly between the hole and the spot on which the ball is to be dropped,” it is referring to the third (final) time. It is the reference point for the 26-1b option only.”

On a day that rules were being enforced, the Officials might want to go have a look at this one.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Sports
KEYWORDS: cheat; cheater; golf; hgh; humangrowthhormones; masters; tiger
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Now that I understand exactly what he did, I think he should be disqualified. Like the blogger says, he proceeded as if the ball crossed the hazard right in front of him, when it didn't.
1 posted on 04/12/2013 10:01:38 PM PDT by FlJoePa
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To: FlJoePa

Do you really think that they are going to disqualify the so-called ‘king’ of golf?

Not in this lifetime! They may award him a couple of strokes. That I would believe.


2 posted on 04/12/2013 10:07:59 PM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: FlJoePa

Did he gain an advantage from this?


3 posted on 04/12/2013 10:17:17 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise
so-called ‘king’ of golf?

Why the cynicism? Has Tiger done something to offend you? He may not be the "king" of golf, but surly the "prince". And if his career stays on course, he will eventually be the "king" of golf.

4 posted on 04/12/2013 10:17:57 PM PDT by doc1019 (There is absolutely no difference between pro-choice and pro-abortion.)
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To: Williams

Yes. He even spoke about it on camera. About getting a few yards behind his original location.

If he wanted to take that option (keeping entry point between him and the hole), he’d be in the woods to his left - because the ricochet sent the ball to 8 O’Clock, not 6 O’Clock where he hit it from.

The more I think about this, there isn’t any way out. He’s gotta be DQ’d.


5 posted on 04/12/2013 10:22:25 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: doc1019

I am not a Tiger fan, BUT I will say that I do not believe he would purposely cheat his competitors, because that is what breaking the rules in a torunament means, cheating the fellow competitors. ... And don’t anyone bother bringing up his cheating on his wife. I won’t discuss that vulgarity.


6 posted on 04/12/2013 10:26:19 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: doc1019
No he is just an individual whose entire carefully constructed public persona has been shown to be completely fraudulent. He is a talented technician and a moral reprobate whose continued presence in professional golfing is mark of shame on the sport. While he did not, so far as we know, violate any laws as did the wretched Pete Rose his character is even more debased than that fatted Pharaoh.
7 posted on 04/12/2013 10:28:08 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: MHGinTN

Competitors get DQ’d all the time. It doesn’t mean they’re cheaters. Just means they effed up.


8 posted on 04/12/2013 10:28:56 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: robowombat

And your favorite football, basketball, baseball player lived a perfect life? I don’t care about his personal life, just his athletic ability. If we could get rid of all athletes that live less then Christian lives ... sports would cease to exist.


9 posted on 04/12/2013 10:30:19 PM PDT by doc1019 (There is absolutely no difference between pro-choice and pro-abortion.)
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To: MHGinTN

Woods lack of integrity and character are the heart of the matter.


10 posted on 04/12/2013 10:31:29 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: MHGinTN

I’m not a Tiger fan either. But he brings attention to the sport.


11 posted on 04/12/2013 10:31:43 PM PDT by berdie
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To: FlJoePa

TV viewers have had players DQ’d before. Contact Masters Tournament officials and register a complaint.


12 posted on 04/12/2013 10:33:35 PM PDT by twister881
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To: twister881

It’s been all over twitter for hours. They know what he did. He took a bad drop and signed a bad scorecard. It’s pretty simple.


13 posted on 04/12/2013 10:36:08 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Perhaps we shall see. If he bows out or takes a two stroke addition to his score, would that tend to persuade you that he holds the game in high regard?


14 posted on 04/12/2013 10:42:32 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: doc1019
Unfortunately the cult of celebrity which is one of the really bad inventions of the 20th century has endowed these stick and ball men or pigskin throwers or whatever with a significance that goes beyond the sensible level of, say watching pool hustlers knock the numbered balls around. Through a propaganda machine Dr G would envy such these people are held up as iconic figures to the nation. I don't like it, I hate all of this organized phony lying ballyho that the ad men and the booster boys have polluted our society with. But it is a plague , like television, that can't be made to go away. So these entertainers, and that is what they are, should at least be held to a public standard commensurate with their grossly inflated images. When their feet of clay are revealed, especially when the revelation is as florid as it was for Mr. Wood the penalty should be being hurled from the tinsel Olympus and sent down to the Hades of the everyday banality. I hate celebrities but they should be made to toe the line in public and if not lose their overblown status.
15 posted on 04/12/2013 10:42:38 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: FlJoePa
Link:

Young golfer disqualifies self, gives up medal

16 posted on 04/12/2013 10:44:45 PM PDT by TaxPayer2000
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To: doc1019

There is a lot of petty Tiger hate on FR. Following his martial infidelity and subsequent troubles, leading to the attrition of hs game (and his fall in golf rankings) there were a good number of surprisingly happy FReepers. I am personally not a fan of Tiger, but I know he is one of golf’s greatest exponents. Moreover, his failings as a husband have nothing to do with my appreciation of golf and his accomplishments in the sport. I also have to admit being very happy with his new wind in the game, and rise to the top AGAIN.


17 posted on 04/12/2013 10:48:05 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: spetznaz

We are of like mind.


18 posted on 04/12/2013 10:49:41 PM PDT by doc1019 (There is absolutely no difference between pro-choice and pro-abortion.)
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To: FlJoePa

Your post is the succinct point that the Green Jackets can’t ignore and seemed clear in the late CBS Master’s wrap-up show with Jim Nance and David Feherty. They did everything but say he would be DQ in the morning. The smart play for Tiger would be to get in front of it and DQ himself. His public perception would go up several notches, IMO.


19 posted on 04/12/2013 10:50:03 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: MHGinTN

If he’s found in violation of rule 26 (which I believe he was), he signed an incorrect scorecard. That means he would be disqualified. There’s no penalty shots at this point.


20 posted on 04/12/2013 10:50:06 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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