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Jogger Shoots Two Dogs to Defend Himself, His Own Pet
http://www.kolotv.com. ^ | Posted: Sun 2:27 PM, Apr 14, 2013 A | kolo

Posted on 04/14/2013 2:35:22 PM PDT by redreno

RENO, Nev. -- Shots rang out in a Stead neighborhood early Sunday afternoon after two pit bulls attacked a jogger and his dog.

It happened on Rising Sun Drive. Police say the man lives in the area and was jogging in a residential area when the pit bulls attacked.

"Two loose, unrestrained pit bulls attacked his dog and when he tried to separate the pit bulls and his dog, the pit bulls attacked him," said Sgt. Joe Lever of the Reno Police Department. "He was jogging with a concealed firearm which he has a permit for. He discharged the firearm twice, striking one dog who died instantly. We followed a blood trail and found the other in a backyard with a through-and-through wound."

Police say the dog was standing when they found it and was rushed to a nearby animal hospital.

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1 posted on 04/14/2013 2:35:22 PM PDT by redreno
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To: redreno

So much for the old gun-grabber screed: “those guns are only good for one thing—killing people.”


2 posted on 04/14/2013 2:38:38 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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3 posted on 04/14/2013 2:38:53 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: redreno

Why did the cops waste taxpayer money by rushing the shot dog to a hospital? Not their money I guess.


4 posted on 04/14/2013 2:39:47 PM PDT by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: redreno

People left on vacation and left the dogs out in the yard?

What’s wrong with this picture.

BTW most pit bulls raised by “human beings” are sweet and adorible.


5 posted on 04/14/2013 2:43:56 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: redreno
"..."Two loose, unrestrained..."
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6 posted on 04/14/2013 2:45:59 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

if only you wooda posted the offishul usmultiangencyid list you wooda all known meeee....running away....they never got me face shot...just running away...the asshole...


7 posted on 04/14/2013 2:46:29 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: Vaquero

“BTW most pit bulls raised by “human beings” are sweet and adorible.”

Until they stop being sweet and adorable, then they tend to cause a lot of damage.


8 posted on 04/14/2013 2:46:45 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Vaquero

“...sweet and adorable???????”

I call BS on that one.


9 posted on 04/14/2013 2:48:42 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare berry bear formerly known as Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: Vaquero

That’s good to know, but if one or more approaches me unattended or unleashed or both, it’s getting maced in the face until it goes away.

And if that fails, I will use other more potent measures.


10 posted on 04/14/2013 2:49:51 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: redreno

Two loose, unrestrained pit bulls attacking a jogger and his dog.... And the jogger took care of business. No reason for anyone to have a problem with this.


11 posted on 04/14/2013 2:55:07 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: redreno
"It is illegal to discharge a firearm in a congested area but in the protection of your life it is legal," (Sgt)Lever said.

In New York, it would still be illegal!

12 posted on 04/14/2013 2:55:55 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: Vaquero

This pit bull was sweet and adorable until she sicced it on a man and his daughter and also an animal control officer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWL58zzoim4


13 posted on 04/14/2013 2:57:14 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Vaquero

All too often, “sweet and adorable” pit bills go into attack mode for not reason.


14 posted on 04/14/2013 2:58:51 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: bigheadfred

wow, time for you to sign off and sober up


16 posted on 04/14/2013 3:02:45 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: redreno

Fair enough

And I like and have owned pits

They be loose and attack then they got it coming

Get a Caucasian Mountain dog for jogging

You’ll be pit bull worry free.


17 posted on 04/14/2013 3:03:18 PM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

That kid in the team jersey needed a machete, not a stick.


18 posted on 04/14/2013 3:11:03 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: driftdiver

It is simply an affected writing style. LOLOL

But I guess you know all about shettin on the flore.

LOLOLOL


19 posted on 04/14/2013 3:12:50 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: Vaquero

I don’t understand irresponsible dog owners who care so little about their dogs that they just let them run free. I told my neighbor just last week that his dogs are either going to get stolen, poisoned, hit by a car or shot. These aren’t just mutts, but expensive dogs. Just laziness, I guess.


20 posted on 04/14/2013 3:12:51 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Kirkwood

Laziness? Do you know how man government agencies are working to stop that?


21 posted on 04/14/2013 3:15:08 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: Admin Moderator

remind me


22 posted on 04/14/2013 3:17:37 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: bigheadfred

I don’t know where you live, but wherever it is the sun is definitely over the yardarm.


23 posted on 04/14/2013 3:21:54 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: redreno

“He discharged the firearm twice, striking one dog who died instantly”.. Sad. Oh wait, it was a Pit Bull. GOOD.


24 posted on 04/14/2013 3:24:42 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: Slings and Arrows

post 19

not that there is anyone around with the wherewithal to get it


25 posted on 04/14/2013 3:24:47 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: driftdiver

The most horrid death I could imagine is getting torn limb from limb by dogs. Give me a nice clean bullet over that any day. The dead dog was treated more humanely than what it would have done to the man who shot him.


26 posted on 04/14/2013 3:37:43 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: Vaquero

Okay, I will bite. They may be cute and adorable, but their physiology makes them dangerous. It’s akin to taming a lion or tiger. You might think they are docile, but once they strike, they do a lot of damage.

These dogs are dangerous animals, because they ARE STRONG.


27 posted on 04/14/2013 3:40:19 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028
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To: rawhide

“Congested Area” is nebulous on purpose.

probably means within city limits.

we used to have silencers abounding for this very reason.


28 posted on 04/14/2013 3:43:24 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Vaquero
BTW most pit bulls raised by “human beings” are sweet and adorible.

Maybe. Maybe not. Not sure about that. In any event a lot of them sure make the news. As you say the owners are often the blame. The combination of a careless owner and a Pit bull can result in a vicious animal

29 posted on 04/14/2013 3:56:41 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: redreno

What caliber was the firearm he used? He probably used a .380 or 9mm.


30 posted on 04/14/2013 3:58:49 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: Forty-Niner

Agree 100%.


31 posted on 04/14/2013 4:10:01 PM PDT by Lumper20 (`)
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To: ogen hal

So they can nurse it back to health so they can shoot it themselves.


32 posted on 04/14/2013 4:14:30 PM PDT by libertybell
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To: ScottinVA

I carry when i work in my lower back yard because in the subdivision behind us some renters keep three ‘pit bulls’, and one day last summer they got loose and i had to retreat behind the deer fence in my vegetable garden. I used a spare metal fence post to nail the.leader on the side of the head. I made my way to my own back deck where they followed me up.

To not carry is to choose to be defenseless. I am no longer defenseless in my own back yard.


33 posted on 04/14/2013 4:21:24 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Ah, the “LITTLE TEAPOT!”

And no, I won’t say why the prostitutes of Paris called him that!


34 posted on 04/14/2013 4:21:27 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The murals in OKC are destroyed. The director and actors wept.)
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To: Vaquero

I never trust em, particularly when I see more than one on the loose. They are descendents of dogs used in war. I had a large Doberman that took a discernable disliking to pit bull type dogs and I’ve never seen a dog smarter than my Old Doby.


35 posted on 04/14/2013 4:28:00 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: plain talk

It’s not malicious, they’re descendents of war dogs. No matter what the temperament you think they have, when there’s more than one of them they become very unpredictable as they’ll revert to pack mentality.

There is no reason to own them. They don’t even make good guard dogs.


36 posted on 04/14/2013 4:33:05 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: plain talk

Hubby and I were walking our two leashed dogs last weekend when this friggin’ pitbull comes streaking across a yard, dragging her leash. She immediately goes for the smaller dog, my 42-pound setter-mix, not the 65-pound Australian shepherd-mix my husband was walking. I always carry a cane which works very well for keeping dogs at bay, if not, I can start smashing the errant dog over the head with it. Thank goodness, my dog is pretty submissive, and didn’t respond to the other dog’s aggression so I only had to worry about keeping my pup from getting bit, not keeping her from wanting to fight, too.

We’re screaming at the dog to go home, when the owner comes out and grabs the dog. Oops. Turns out the dog is a rescued “junkyard” dog she is trying to rehabilitate, she’s only had her a couple of months, blah, blah, blah.

Well, dang it, our dogs are rescues, too. One is an elderly gentleman that was “too old” to attract any interest, and the little setter-mix was just broke, too much trauma too early in her life (she’s fine now, thank you very much).

This constant push to adopt a pitbull just irks me because
as “sweet and adorable” as they may be, there are thousands of good dogs waiting to be adopted that would be ten times as sweet and adorable without wrecking havoc on the neighborhood.


37 posted on 04/14/2013 4:34:36 PM PDT by LSAggie
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To: LSAggie

I carry protection every morning when I walk my dog for this reason.


38 posted on 04/14/2013 4:37:50 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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To: FreedomStar3028

They are dangerous for several reasons not just because they are strong.

A ridgeback is probably stronger but is a much safer dog to have around. Because they are controllable.

Once a pit bull goes into kill mode there is very little you can do to controll it. It will keep killing until it is sated or until something kills it. Their strength of course is a major factor in people being unable to physically control them.


39 posted on 04/14/2013 4:47:21 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: AuntB

We have pit bulls in our neighborhood. I carry whenever I walk around the block and have pepper spray for the boys to carry.


40 posted on 04/14/2013 4:49:01 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

I agree with you, I was just using this argument.

I use it with people all the time that say it’s the owner’s fault. It isn’t, the best trained pit bulls will go into aggro mode and tear %&$# up.

I don’t disagree that pit bulls can be sweet/adorable/good dogs. It’s just the random chaotic element that makes them dangerous + their strength and super aggressiveness when they feel threatened, or want to kill.


41 posted on 04/14/2013 4:55:31 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028
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To: Vaquero
So you are saying most pit bulls are OK. Most rattle snakes never bite a person either but I don't think it is a good thing if my neighbors have some and let them slither all over the neighborhood. Sooner or later one of the snattle rakes is going to find himself in a situation where his instincts kick in and is going to bite somebody.

Stock have been bred for hundreds of years to herd. Now it is bred into them and called, "instinct." They sort border collie pups when they are six weeks old on flocks of ducks to see if they will work or not. These pups have had very little human contact so human contact and treatment has nothing to do with the herding instinct. Either they work or they don't, but almost all do work the ducks. It, that instinct, is always there.

Pitt Bulls have been bred for hundreds of years to bite and fight. It can be enhanced by an owner or controlled by an owner but it is always there. In other words just because you are a good owner does not make the dog safe around other people or other animals. That instinct is always there and there still can be a trigger that unleashes it.

The people who need to know and understand this the most are the owners of Pitt Bulls but they seem to be the first to deny that their dogs could or would ever harm anyone, until they do. Then all we hear is how sweet and nice the dog has always been. Until it wasn't and another person is ripped up or another child killed. I'm a professional trainer and handler. Not all pitt bulls are bad but every one of them has within it the instinct to fight and bite.

Every time I see a Pitt Bull leading/pulling/dragging the owner/handler down the street I want to pull my truck over and ask the owner if the dog is so dumb that it can not be trained to heel and act properly on a leash. Or maybe it the owners who are so dumb that they do not feel like the dog needs to be trained or controlled. I have trained a few pits and after some work they all learned leash manners. The vote is still out on the owners.

42 posted on 04/14/2013 4:58:29 PM PDT by oldenuff2no
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To: FreedomStar3028

They require an expert to handle properly.

Probably 50% of the dogs at the shelter are pit or pit mix.


43 posted on 04/14/2013 4:59:46 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: oldenuff2no

Most owners don’t seem to leash train their dogs. Kinda sad when you realize the dog is the boss.


44 posted on 04/14/2013 5:01:48 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: redreno

Sigh, and so another Pitty thread begins again.

We have these threads over and over, in which the results never change. Does that make the people who (repeatedly) disagree with me insane? Or am I insane for trying (repeatedly) to change minds which cannot be changed?

Sigh. The agony of this conundrum can only be eased with the consumption of another beer...the sanest action of all.


45 posted on 04/14/2013 5:06:19 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Usagi_yo

I’ve never had a dog, let alone a big dog, but Dobermans are always one breed that appealed to me. Are they as intelligent as they look? Sorry, but most pit bulls look about as smart as a sack of walnuts.


46 posted on 04/14/2013 5:09:31 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Vaquero

“BTW most pit bulls raised by “human beings” are sweet and adorible.”

It’s the ones raised by cats that give the others a bad name.

Damn cats.


47 posted on 04/14/2013 5:13:14 PM PDT by Rebelbase (1929-1950's, 20+years for full recovery. How long this time?)
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To: redreno

Good shooting, so the pit’s owner should only get five years,.... for each pit.


48 posted on 04/14/2013 5:14:18 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
“Congested Area” is nebulous on purpose. probably means within city limits.
Stead is a former Air Force base outside of Reno. I don't think Stead is a city or in the Reno city limits.

It's been many yrs since I've been there but it used to be (large) mobile home lots and military style housing.

Stead is where the Reno Air Races are/were held. It was also the home of Lear Jet.

49 posted on 04/14/2013 5:25:20 PM PDT by lewislynn ( What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in commom? Misinformation)
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To: LSAggie; Vaquero; Usagi_yo
Ala "sweet and adorable becasue they're raised by human beings," it's doggy racism is what it is. Bottom line. To discriminate so blindly by mere breeding!

Dogs are people, too!

*rolls eyes*

It's insulting to the dignity of a dog bred to be a lethal force, to be assigned the job of "little buddy" in the family. No wonder they go nuts.

Leave that kind of work to a dog better bred to it. Like a shreiking little yappy chihuahua you can pick up and cuddle. They are awfully cute, once you get to know them.

Pit bulls shouldn't be banned, but they should be allowed to be dispatched at the pound more easily. How many dozens are cranked out daily in the neighborhoods where you see dumb-chit boys with their pants hallfway down their ass, being walked by a dog who could rip them to shreds?

50 posted on 04/14/2013 5:32:43 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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