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Do you agree with Rubio that the "immigration" plan isn't amnesty?
4/15/2013 | Laissez-Faire Capitalist

Posted on 04/15/2013 7:04:37 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

This "immigration bill" (why not call it what it is a so-called attempt to deal with ILLEGAL immigration) not just an immigration plan - why do they leave the WORD illegal out - supposedly has some key components:

1.) Penalties. 2.) Back to the end of the line. 3.) Illegals cannot get gov't handouts (food stamps, etc). I thought that for all these years they weren't eligible, weren't receiving them an/or they never did in the first place... 4.) An E-Verify system.

Big Problem though...where is the simultaneously offered strong border control component(s), with many more border control agents, strong National Guard assistance, more fences in channel areas that illegals flood into far more often and in larger numbers than in other areas along the border?

Where is that at?

RINO Rubio...


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1 posted on 04/15/2013 7:04:37 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; All

What say you?


2 posted on 04/15/2013 7:05:00 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I may not agree with this plan and all of the details, but Rubio is no RINO. Please, I am sick and tired of people who throw out the term RINO when they don’t agree with some one.

Susan Collins is a RINO, not Rubio.


3 posted on 04/15/2013 7:07:50 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz, Sen Mike Lee, and Sen Rand Paul are my adoptive Senators)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Rubio wants AMNESTY for the 30,000,000 illegal aliens


4 posted on 04/15/2013 7:09:04 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Liz; AuntB; La Lydia; sickoflibs

PING


5 posted on 04/15/2013 7:10:05 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

The Ministry of Border Security reminds us that “Open Borders are Secure Borders”


6 posted on 04/15/2013 7:10:46 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I say he’s selling the country down the river.


7 posted on 04/15/2013 7:12:49 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Tennessee Nana; Liz; AuntB; La Lydia
RE :”Do you agree with Rubio that the “immigration” plan isn't amnesty?”

My tagline gives the answer.
Any law that allows them to stay here and get citizenship (voting ) after illegally living here is a huge jump ahead in line to those others respecting our laws.

All that Rubio 10 year crap doesnt impress me, remove citizenship(voting) and Dems bail.

8 posted on 04/15/2013 7:15:13 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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Please.

He was a Tea Party favorite, but if he isn’t lurching more and more to the GOP-e than who isn’t?

Just more big-tent bull. Big tent always leads to the GOP-e taking over and conservatives/Tea Partiers get a few bones tossed to them every now and then.


9 posted on 04/15/2013 7:15:28 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I don’t trust Rubio.


10 posted on 04/15/2013 7:16:00 AM PDT by carriage_hill (The most insidious power the news media has, is the power to ignore.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I’ll beleive the enforcement parts of the proposal will be enforced right after current immigration laws are enforced.


11 posted on 04/15/2013 7:17:29 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

You keep throwing out terms like GOP-e, but you haven’t said what policies he is in favor of to make him a RINO.

I am skeptical of this plan, but this doesn’t make him a RINO. He voted against cloture in the gun debate, he is opposed to 0bamacare, and he is in favor of border security.

He is also in favor of less government, and he is pro-life.

I am also tired of people who anointed themselves the one who determines who is conservative and who isn’t.


12 posted on 04/15/2013 7:20:59 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz, Sen Mike Lee, and Sen Rand Paul are my adoptive Senators)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Why not call it what it is a so-called attempt to deal with ILLEGAL immigration.
And the show goes on.


13 posted on 04/15/2013 7:24:36 AM PDT by Vaduz
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and he is pro-life.
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yeah well thats got several different meanings too...


14 posted on 04/15/2013 7:25:37 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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How about somebody shutting the damn gate!!

Where in Rubio's plan is the much-promised border fence?

Where are the tranquillizer and net-throwing drones?

15 posted on 04/15/2013 7:26:56 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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but this doesn’t make him a RINO
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Supporting his illegal aliens for AMNESTY doesnt make him pro-America...

or Conservative...


16 posted on 04/15/2013 7:27:55 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana
Rubio wants AMNESTY for the 30,000,000 illegal aliens

And those 30 million aren't even the worst of the problem. The worst part is the billion or so south of the border who will have observed this and the previous efforts at comprehensive immigration 'reform' and sussed out that they too should get here quick to cash in on the next amnesty. Instead of erecting disincentives to illegally enter, Rubio et. al. are further motivating millions more to try their luck crossing the border, turning the US into the biggest piñata of all time.

17 posted on 04/15/2013 7:29:00 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: Perdogg

There are several meanings for “pro-life” and him supporting illegal aliens for amnesty hardly makes him a Tea partier.

I am tired of those who are enablers of the GOP-e.


18 posted on 04/15/2013 7:34:11 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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When the penalties specified by law are waived for a large group of people, that’s an amnesty. Rubio is playing the same word games - telling LIES - with the American people as W and a long list of others. To pretend that substituting small fines and granting a path to citizenship in lieu of deportation somehow makes it not an amnesty is deliberate deceit and outright lying,, not to mention insulting to the American people.

Rubio continues to play the same role for Amnesty as Bart Stupach played for Obamacare. He’s pretending to stand up for a critical issue (border security) while moving things toward the ultimate leftist goal of amnesty for illegal aliens.


19 posted on 04/15/2013 7:36:15 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Perdogg

BTW, read #14, 15, 16 and 19 on this thread and then say to all here at FR that Rubio isn’t a RINO.


20 posted on 04/15/2013 7:37:53 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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