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Woman, 32, Shot To Death With BB Rifle In Santa Ana
CBSLA.com) ^ | April 18, 2013 5:16 PM

Posted on 04/18/2013 7:11:22 PM PDT by BenLurkin

SANTA ANA (CBSLA.com) — A 32-year-old woman was shot to death with a BB rifle Thursday morning at a Santa Ana home.

Police responded to reports of a shooting around 11 a.m. in the 1000 block of S. Austin Street, according to Cpl. Anthony Bertagna of the Santa Ana Police Department.

Martha Socorro Marin was discovered unconscious with a small puncture wound in her upper chest.

The victim was taken to UC Irvine Medical Center in Orange, where she was pronounced dead.

A 34-year-old man at the scene, reportedly Marin’s live-in boyfriend, said he accidentally shot the victim.

Bertagna said police are still investigating.

“At this point, we’re trying to find out if this was an accident or an intentional act,” he said.

Marin and her boyfriend have two children.


TOPICS: Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: guncontrol; secondamendment

1 posted on 04/18/2013 7:11:22 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Back in the day, a couple who had two children together were called “married.”


2 posted on 04/18/2013 7:12:41 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: BenLurkin

Only use ONE pump!


3 posted on 04/18/2013 7:12:53 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: 2banana

I have a sneaking suspicion it was not a BB gun, but rather a pellet firing air rifle.


4 posted on 04/18/2013 7:14:10 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: BenLurkin

5 posted on 04/18/2013 7:14:25 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: BenLurkin
Lewis and Clark almost killed a native woman with their Girandoni air rifle.

It was .46 cal.

/johnny

6 posted on 04/18/2013 7:14:27 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: BenLurkin

Is it one of those Air-soft guns? Those are BB guns are steroids from what I heard.


7 posted on 04/18/2013 7:14:44 PM PDT by Roger_Wildcat
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To: BenLurkin

Agreed. No way a BB gun has that kind of velocity.


8 posted on 04/18/2013 7:15:36 PM PDT by TheRhinelander
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To: BenLurkin

Holy cow, that’s some real powerful BB gun.


9 posted on 04/18/2013 7:16:51 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: BenLurkin

Bizarre. RIP.


10 posted on 04/18/2013 7:19:41 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

I’m curious about this BB gun, I think most BB guns max out at about 640 fps so how did he get that much penetration? Was he holding it right against her chest? If so, some accident huh? I wonder if maybe the gun wasn’t actually a higher powered pellet gun or rifle, they can get up to 1200fps.


11 posted on 04/18/2013 7:20:23 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: BenLurkin

Shot placement.


12 posted on 04/18/2013 7:20:33 PM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Lewis and Clark almost killed a native woman with their Girandoni air rifle.
It was .46 cal.


What a neat rifle, too.


13 posted on 04/18/2013 7:20:42 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals will never get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: BenLurkin

Wow. It takes a good 8 or 10 pumps for me to take a rabbit out in my yard. I remember as a kid when we would shoot each other or try to do so with BB guns at distance. That was way before paintball and this airsoft stuff.


14 posted on 04/18/2013 7:22:34 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: Roger_Wildcat

Just plastic pellets.

But a good .22 air rifle can give plenty enough velocity and weight to kill with.


15 posted on 04/18/2013 7:22:52 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: BenLurkin
I have a sneaking suspicion it was not a BB gun, but rather a pellet firing air rifle.

Well... it does say BB "rifle", so at least we are sure it was a rifle.

My question is, did they ask him why he had a bayonet on it ?

16 posted on 04/18/2013 7:23:11 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Contemporary air rifles up to .50 caliber.

http://www.pyramydair.com/air-rifles


17 posted on 04/18/2013 7:25:18 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: BenLurkin; carriage_hill

BB or Pellet gun it would have to be one of those high velocity “relatively” new air guns that are over 4 digit fps I suspect.


18 posted on 04/18/2013 7:26:33 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (The amount of ammo you need is determined after the gunfight.)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
Back in the day, a couple who had two children together were called “married.”

Single motherhood is the "norm" these days (most having them in their 20s).

19 posted on 04/18/2013 7:27:46 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: BenLurkin

When I was a kid, I killed some rats with a .20 pump pellet gun. If you pumped it up enough, you could shoot it through a an aluminum shed wall or deeply embed the pellet in a wood fence. Some of the pellet guns can be very lethal.


20 posted on 04/18/2013 7:34:09 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: BenLurkin

Based on the fact that most of these half wit journalists don’t know what a magazine is, we can’t assume they know what a BB gun is.

Or that they would know that all air rifles are not BB guns.

Why even debate this when it is highly unlikely we are even getting decent, factual information?


21 posted on 04/18/2013 7:37:59 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: BenLurkin

They have ones that fire a pellet upwards of 1000 fps.


22 posted on 04/18/2013 7:41:38 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: jjotto

Thanks for that link!


23 posted on 04/18/2013 7:48:52 PM PDT by TheRhinelander
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To: ChildOfThe60s

So that means it was an air-powered AK-47, correct?


24 posted on 04/18/2013 7:57:42 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: BenLurkin

I have to wonder if this was not really an “air rifle” as opposed to a “BB Gun”. Look it up on You Tube, there are some pretty impressive hog kills using an air rifle. I have no doubt that the same weapon could take down a human. Thanks.


25 posted on 04/18/2013 8:08:00 PM PDT by jttpwalsh
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To: Clint N. Suhks

My new handgun pellet gun will kill a squirrel.


26 posted on 04/18/2013 8:14:50 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: BenLurkin

When my cousin was a kid he was running with his BB gun, tripped and accidentally shot himself through his temple. The BB bounced around several time and ended up in his speech center. They did brain surgery and got the BB. He couldn’t speak for about 3 days but made a complete recovery.

For about 6 months they kept a chunk of his skull in a bone bank in case there was swelling. A chunk of skin went over the void. He would run up to his mom and grunt and his scalp would bubble out about 3 inches.

I don’t know how that woman survived that kid.


27 posted on 04/18/2013 8:19:29 PM PDT by DManA
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To: BenLurkin
I say BS.
Of course "reporters" are not the brightest bulbs on the tree.

Sounds like a planned attempt to register or outlaw air guns, too. Pretty soon "firearms" may include rocks and slingshots...

Give it a rest, retards!

28 posted on 04/18/2013 8:28:08 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: BenLurkin

Most can fire either a bb or a pellet.

You can get higher end ones that fire 1200-1400 fps. Varmit tipped ammo in .177 or .22.

They aren’t a Daisy Red Rider, that’s for damn sure. Price tags aren’t anywhere near that either.


29 posted on 04/18/2013 8:29:44 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: 3Fingas
Some of the pellet guns can be very lethal.

You do realize that's a redundancy, right?
Would that make the victim "very" dead? As opposed to kinda dead?

30 posted on 04/18/2013 8:34:53 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
So that means it was an air-powered AK-47, correct?

I don't get your point

31 posted on 04/18/2013 8:51:37 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: publius911

Good point.

Lethal can also mean gravely destructive, but I get where you are coming from.


32 posted on 04/18/2013 9:45:32 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

The media thinks every gun is an AK-47. Just making a subtle funny.


33 posted on 04/18/2013 9:58:24 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

There is a very fascinating story about the Lewis & Clark expedition using those air guns to impress the Indians not to try any ideas endangering the expedition.


34 posted on 04/18/2013 11:22:19 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: BenLurkin

Likely not a BB gun; more likely a pellet pistol or rifle. The pellet arms can approach the .22 for penetration. Pellet arms are no toys.


35 posted on 04/19/2013 12:06:10 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Ouch. Beats the crap out of the Daisy “Red Rider” BB Gun I had as a little kid. I suspect it might be a HV pellet, as you suggested, rather than a BB. Might have nicked the aorta, and she bled-out.


36 posted on 04/19/2013 4:55:05 AM PDT by carriage_hill (The most insidious power the news media has, is the power to ignore.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

37 posted on 04/19/2013 5:45:15 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
You forgot a few:

AK-47 Glock

38 posted on 04/19/2013 10:54:02 AM PDT by N-R-T (dang...another gun fell off the boat.)
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