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First Discovery Of A Pre-Columbian Port On The Gulf Coast
Past Horizons ^ | Tuesday, April 16, 2013 | INAH

Posted on 04/20/2013 8:33:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

A retaining pier wall, four shrines and an unusual circular structure dating to over 1000 years old, have recently been found by archaeologists of the National Institute of anthropology and history (INAH) in the pre-Hispanic site of Tabuco in Veracruz...

Tabuco is located on the southern bank of the Tuxpan River 5 km from the sea, on a narrow strip of land between the river and to the south are the mangroves of Tumilco.

This Huastec site was explored in the 1940s by Gordon Ekholm, who carried out some initial investigations and determined the dates for occupation at between the Protoclassic (100BCE-AD250) and the early Postclassic (AD900-1200).

The investigations at this site is part of a larger archaeological project south of the Huasteca Veracruzana, looking at the system of polity in this pre-Columbian border region. The Tuxpan River is considered the boundary between the Huasteco and the Totonacos...

Some scholars have suggested it was an important port, where the marketplace was so large that the 15th century Aztec Triple Alliance made a serious effort to hold it as a tributary province, an area also important for cotton production, a resource that could not be planted in the Highlands.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: ancientnavigation; godsgravesglyphs; huastec; mexico; middleages; navigation; tabuco; thevikings; totonacos; tumilco; tuxpanriver; veracruz; vikings
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To: blam; gleeaikin

Well, to begin with I can say that my views fall on the side of the geneticists rather than with the anthropologists who study morphology. “More math, less art.” I haven’t paid very much attention to Luzia for several years, because it is a genetic dead end, but I seem to remember that the actual morphology put her in the Australian aboriginal column, rather than the African. There have been some findings on the West coast of South America than may indicate a wave of pre-Clovis immigration from Australia via Polynesia. Finally, there is no evidence that the extinct group to which Luzia belonged ever developed an advanced civilization. However, I believe there is at least one existing aboriginal population in Brazil whose morphology resembles pre-Mongoloids.

21 posted on 04/21/2013 5:33:14 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: ckilmer
"Another variation of this relates not to olmecs but rather to the mayans whose temples look strikingly like temples from Indonesia."

Schoch make the comparison in his book:

Voyages Of The Pyramid Builders

There are more pyramids in Mexico than all of the rest of the world combined.

22 posted on 04/21/2013 6:07:15 PM PDT by blam
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To: La Lydia; blam; All

I know I do not have anything like solid evidence. However, speculation, especially in a way no one has stated before is a good way to get people looking for new and different information. Without speculation would people have started digging below Clovis layers and discovering earlier human traces? Be assured, my imagination will not be discouraged. Imaging is too much fun, and I don’t confuse facts with speculation.

23 posted on 04/21/2013 9:47:30 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin

Digging below Clovis layers? Straight down? How did that work?

24 posted on 04/22/2013 3:51:04 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: gleeaikin

I was wondering about that, too. The locals didn’t have any sea-going. I don’t think they they even had anything like the giant whaling canoes used in the Pacific Northwest. Why would they have a seaport?

Also, there are supposedly wreck sites in South America with Greco-Roman type amphora. I think somebody was trading in South America loooooooong before Columbus or even Leif Ericson made it to the western hemisphere.

25 posted on 04/22/2013 5:57:26 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: Little Ray; SunkenCiv; blam; All

Where they Greco-Roman amphora, or were the Phoenecian/Sea People amphora? Around a thousand years difference, and the later puts it around the time of the rise of the Olmecs.

26 posted on 04/22/2013 11:57:29 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: La Lydia; SunkenCiv; All

If you need to ask me that question, then I suggest you research a bit about how archaeology field research is actually conducted. Order a good book on Amazon.

27 posted on 04/23/2013 12:00:56 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin

You’re right. Of course. That’s what I need to do!! :)

28 posted on 04/23/2013 4:12:13 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia; gleeaikin

I’m always amazed at the underlying assumption that the idea of Precolumbian transoceanic contact has anything to do with all your straw man claims of racism, cultural supremacy, etc.

29 posted on 04/23/2013 5:58:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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