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Pocket-Pistol Lessons
http://www.americanrifleman.org/ ^ | 04/23/2013 | Adam Heggenstaller

Posted on 04/24/2013 11:28:11 AM PDT by BO Stinkss

Establishing a bond with a pocket pistol is similar to marriage—in one way: You have to be willing to accept compromise. To make any compromise worth the effort, there must be a clear objective. In this case preserving your life is the goal, and pocket pistols, whether diminutive semi-automatics or small-frame revolvers, do their part and offer a solution that is easy to carry concealed. Merely slipping one into the front pocket of your jacket, however, will not prevent a determined threat from causing you bodily harm. To stop a violent attack, you must be prepared to counter with force adequate to end the confrontation. Therein lies the compromise. In exchange for realizing the benefits of a pocket pistol’s small size, light weight and ease of concealment, you trade accuracy, capacity, ease of handling and power. So while a pocket pistol may be the most convenient tool to have at hand, it is often far from ideal. The first step in dealing with its limitations is realizing it will likely be more difficult to defend yourself with a pocket pistol than with any other firearm.

Unfortunately, many citizens who carry pocket pistols are lulled into a false sense of security and don’t recognize and plan for the relative deficiencies of their little handguns. That is particularly true of those who carry a pocket pistol as a backup to their primary sidearm. True, many pocket pistols are simple to fire because their double-action-only triggers or striker-type mechanisms eliminate the need to disengage a frame-mounted safety. It’s also true that most defensive engagements take place at short range. But to assume these factors warrant a nonchalant attitude is foolish, and potentially deadly.

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This is my pocket pistol. It's a P-64 chambered in 9mm Makarov.

What do you carry? Show me your gun porn.

1 posted on 04/24/2013 11:28:11 AM PDT by BO Stinkss
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To: BO Stinkss
My sidearm of choice ...

H&K P30.

SnakeDoc

2 posted on 04/24/2013 11:30:25 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens)
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To: SnakeDoctor

Sexy. Do you carry it concealed?


3 posted on 04/24/2013 11:31:24 AM PDT by BO Stinkss ( I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees)
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To: BO Stinkss

I’ve owned a couple Makarov’s. Mine was of East German manufacture. Very reliable, never jammed, and has a little more pop than a .380, though less than a 9mm.


4 posted on 04/24/2013 11:32:46 AM PDT by sargon
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Pocket Pistol Bookmark


5 posted on 04/24/2013 11:32:47 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: BO Stinkss

Nice article but not completely accurate with regard to power. You can get mouse guns today that hold 8 rounds of 9mm. You don’t have to settle for .32 in a mouse gun today. Amazing.

Otherwise, good article.


6 posted on 04/24/2013 11:33:01 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Free goodies for all -- Freedom for none.)
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To: BO Stinkss

Yeah. IWB holster, small-of-the-back. Conceals fine under a jacket.

I need something smaller for summer carry, though. May just go with a PPK or something.

SnakeDoc


7 posted on 04/24/2013 11:33:15 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens)
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To: BO Stinkss

I have a CZ82. Love it.


8 posted on 04/24/2013 11:34:10 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: BO Stinkss
I just got one of these for my Wife:


Springfield XDs.

I personally carry the XDM 4.5" .45 bitone, and the Kahr CW45.
9 posted on 04/24/2013 11:36:49 AM PDT by RandallFlagg
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To: BO Stinkss

I have one of those. Had to change out the springs to make the trigger pull manageable.


10 posted on 04/24/2013 11:36:58 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: BO Stinkss

BRB ...


11 posted on 04/24/2013 11:38:56 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: BO Stinkss
Even if you manage to align the sights perfectly and keep your entire focus on that little bump near the muzzle, you can still miss.

Fortunately, the vast majority of self defense situations are going to be within 10 feet or so. At that range, you don't aim, you point.

12 posted on 04/24/2013 11:39:36 AM PDT by Hugin
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To: ozzymandus

“I have one of those. Had to change out the springs to make the trigger pull manageable.”

I recently did the same. Stock trigger pull was insane. Changed out the recoil spring too. Much more pleasant to shoot now.


13 posted on 04/24/2013 11:40:20 AM PDT by BO Stinkss ( I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees)
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To: BO Stinkss
My favorite carry pistol is my Ruger LC-9 kept in an IWB holster that has a flip-open button strap. It's very comfotable and secure.
I love this pistol. I've carried a S&W .38 Special J-frame revolver for a while but I always go back to the LC-9. It rocks and is very accurate.


14 posted on 04/24/2013 11:40:34 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (For me, I plan to die standing as a free man rather than spend one second on my knees as a slave.)
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15 posted on 04/24/2013 11:42:12 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: RandallFlagg
Springfield XDs

Tried one and loved it. For those wanting a small .45 Auto that is controllable and accurate, the XDs would also be my recommendation.

Mr. niteowl77

16 posted on 04/24/2013 11:42:32 AM PDT by niteowl77 (Oh, crap.)
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To: RandallFlagg

Im so ready to get one of these - how does she like it?


17 posted on 04/24/2013 11:43:26 AM PDT by Revelation 911 (hump scratching n'er do well.....all strung out on chicken wings and venison jerky)
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To: BO Stinkss

I carry(when I carry) a 1990s Colt Mustang 6 shot mag .380 SA...carried in condition 2...I am pretty good at cocking the hammer as I push it forward....very accurate for its size...

my son has a Ruger LCP 6 shot mag also .380 DAO...around a third the weight....much less accurate but for the distance these things are made for...accurate enough...


18 posted on 04/24/2013 11:44:23 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight,, he'll just kill you.)
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To: BO Stinkss
Glock 26 Gen 3


19 posted on 04/24/2013 11:44:41 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: BO Stinkss

Great article. Thanks.

I carry a Glock 27. Heat most of the year make carry a challenge, but best I’ve found for me is IWB.


20 posted on 04/24/2013 11:47:19 AM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: MHGinTN

Bersa - nice gun


21 posted on 04/24/2013 11:47:47 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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To: Yo-Yo
My favorite. Springfield 9mm EMP


22 posted on 04/24/2013 11:48:35 AM PDT by aimhigh ( Guns do not kill people. Abortion kills people.)
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To: Revelation 911
Im so ready to get one of these - how does she like it?

Heh! Good luck finding one.
The guys at the shop JUST walked in the door with the familiar Springfield gun case.
I ask, "XDm?"
He replies, "XDs."
I threw my NRA credit card on the counter and said, "Wife needs a birthday present. Ring me up."
They looked at the wall clock, and at each other and said, "DAMN! Twelve seconds!"

She loves it.
I KNEW I'd make her into a .45ACP gal someday.
23 posted on 04/24/2013 11:49:56 AM PDT by RandallFlagg
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To: aimhigh

Is that Commander sized, or is it more of a 9mm Mustang?


24 posted on 04/24/2013 11:52:11 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: SnakeDoctor
IWB holster, small-of-the-back.

I hope more of a kidney position.
Heard second-hand of a cop who wore a BUG in the small of his back - got pushed to the ground by a suspect and falling on the pistol caused spinal damage.

Be careful out there!

25 posted on 04/24/2013 11:53:30 AM PDT by grobdriver
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To: MHGinTN
Nice Bersa. My wife carries an older version (model 83). Stainless steel, Walnut grips. Very heavy gun but reliable and accurate.
26 posted on 04/24/2013 11:54:26 AM PDT by BO Stinkss ( I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees)
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To: RandallFlagg

I used to have one of those in XD SC 9mm with 16+1 or 12+1.

Sadly, it was lost in a tragic canoeing accident.


27 posted on 04/24/2013 11:55:37 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (All observant Muslims want to kill you. If they don't, they are not really Muslims.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I have altered Mec Gar PT92 Taurus seventeen round mags to use as backup with that UC Pro. Totally reliable. Easy alteration. Carry 115 gr hollow points in the thirteen round gun mag, and 124 gr round nose in the backups.


28 posted on 04/24/2013 11:57:54 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: RandallFlagg

I have this one too. Excellent feel and really handy.


29 posted on 04/24/2013 11:59:24 AM PDT by MarketR
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Good pocket size. I am a Ruger fan. I also own this one’s little brother, the LCP.
I recently purchased a Ruger SR9C. It is quickly becoming one of my favorites. I’ll probably carry the SR9C this winter when the coats come back out.


30 posted on 04/24/2013 12:00:49 PM PDT by BO Stinkss ( I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees)
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To: BO Stinkss

I’ve seen commercials recently for the Ruger LC-380. Looks like a baby LC-9. If I didn’t already have a S&W Bodyguard .380 I’d be tempted.


31 posted on 04/24/2013 12:08:21 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (For me, I plan to die standing as a free man rather than spend one second on my knees as a slave.)
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To: BO Stinkss

Keltec PF-9
value priced, works just fine, fits in my pocket, has a rail in case you want/can afford a laser or a light. No, you DO NOT have to settle for a pocket pistol smaller than 9MM.


32 posted on 04/24/2013 12:09:37 PM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: Hugin
A gold star for you! I'm a Seecamp believer too. Besides, parts left off cost nothing and don't cause problems in the future.
33 posted on 04/24/2013 12:09:51 PM PDT by kitchen (Make plans and prepare. You'll never have trouble if you're ready for it. - TR)
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To: MHGinTN

Are you saying you carry both at the same time, one as a backup? Or that you alternate carrying each?

I shot a nice Taurus when I took my handgun classes.


34 posted on 04/24/2013 12:12:13 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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To: BO Stinkss

How about pocket revolvers? I have a Charter Arms Bulldog Pug; five shots of 44 special.


35 posted on 04/24/2013 12:26:47 PM PDT by CPO retired
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

No, because the Bersa mags are so expensive, I have taken Taurus mags made by Mec Gar and made a mage release cut in them to use in the Bersa as backup mags. I carry only the Bersa ... and a five shot 22mag mousegun backup.


36 posted on 04/24/2013 12:31:00 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: BO Stinkss
I prefer to carry my Ruger LCP, tricked out with a Crimson Trace laser and a belt slide, which does away with the need to carry a holster and makes it real easy to carry concealed.

The only living thing I've ever used it on was a snapping turtle who tried to steal my bait when I was fishing.

4 Golden Sabre hollow points into the head and neck, and it was still kicking. They're pretty hard to kill, probably more so than your average feral urban yute...

37 posted on 04/24/2013 12:33:18 PM PDT by Kenton
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To: BO Stinkss
This is not my pistol.

Mine is one of the many others like it.

38 posted on 04/24/2013 12:35:16 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Kenton

I Killed a Rattler with my LCP last September. It took all 6 shots - but I only connected with 3!


39 posted on 04/24/2013 12:40:40 PM PDT by BO Stinkss ( I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees)
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To: BO Stinkss
Most will think it's paractically useless, but I just love the look and feel of my classic 40s Saturday night special

Harrington & Richardson 622
40 posted on 04/24/2013 12:43:28 PM PDT by papineau (Who doesn't jump is a French!!)
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To: papineau

.38?


41 posted on 04/24/2013 12:45:22 PM PDT by BO Stinkss ( I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees)
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To: papineau

OK. It’s a 22LR. I won’t laugh at it. A 22LR will put a hurtin’ on ya.


42 posted on 04/24/2013 12:48:13 PM PDT by BO Stinkss ( I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees)
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To: BO Stinkss
More killings have been done with the .22LR round than any other.

The ONLY person I have ever known who was killed in a street robbery, was killed with a .22LR.

43 posted on 04/24/2013 12:49:58 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: BO Stinkss
This is my pocket pistol.

I have big pockets.

44 posted on 04/24/2013 12:52:17 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: BO Stinkss


45 posted on 04/24/2013 12:54:26 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: Lazamataz

Is that the one that shoots 20 ga shot gun shells?


46 posted on 04/24/2013 12:55:37 PM PDT by BO Stinkss ( I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees)
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To: BO Stinkss
Beretta Nano 9mm

Not pretty, but it's a simple and solid 6+1 X 9mm.


47 posted on 04/24/2013 12:56:15 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: BO Stinkss

12 gge.


48 posted on 04/24/2013 12:58:11 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Love my little Sig 938 Subcompact 9mm. Perfect little pocket pistol and with a little practice, I've gotten pretty accurate with it too..


49 posted on 04/24/2013 12:58:16 PM PDT by Dubya-M-Dees (Little HOPE... No CHANGE)
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To: BO Stinkss
My Kahr PM9 which I carry in a High Noon "Pocket Grabber" holster.
50 posted on 04/24/2013 12:59:05 PM PDT by 12GA
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