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How about starting an exclusive Gay/Lesbian Scouts?
newb2012

Posted on 04/28/2013 7:28:37 AM PDT by newb2012

Have been hearing all the discussions about allowing gays in boy scouts teams. I too am concerned like most of us about seeing gay members in boy scouts teams along side my son's bed. Its as good/bad as allowing a girl to be in a boy scouts team where there is a great chance for the weaker(/sarc) sex to get molested. Instead why not have an exclusive gay scouts team where everyone can feel at home. I'm sure there is no way that can be called discrimination as we already have been discriminating 'boy scouts' and 'girl scouts' for ages.


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1 posted on 04/28/2013 7:28:37 AM PDT by newb2012
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To: newb2012

They can’t allow the real scouts. Too many parents would choose to send their children where they will be safe.

Progressive Facists don’t really want anyone to have choices.


2 posted on 04/28/2013 7:30:36 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse; newb2012

Very well-stated Horseman. Good job, newb2012.


3 posted on 04/28/2013 7:33:07 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: newb2012

Badges to be offered in flower arangement, interpretive dance and fabulousness.


4 posted on 04/28/2013 7:35:31 AM PDT by chrisser (Senseless legislation does nothing to solve senseless violence.)
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To: newb2012

Imagine you are 9, normal, and your lib parents put you in gay scouts.

Imagine you are 15 and your friends find out.

Imagine you are 17 and your girlfriend does.

Imagine you are 21 and the guys you work with do.

Imagine you are 23 and dead from AIDS because all those people couldnt be wrong...you really were gay!

Yup. Gay Scouts. The future.


5 posted on 04/28/2013 7:38:48 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: newb2012

Exactly right, it has nothing about getting their own organization, it’s completely about tearing down the values and principles of the more conservative one, demean it, devalue it.

And because others refuse to see this and claim it’s discrimination makes it all the worse.


6 posted on 04/28/2013 7:39:36 AM PDT by Thorliveshere (Tais deau sá taghdedaul!)
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To: newb2012

Because the numbers wouldn’t justify the expense. There are so few homosexuals, the “gatherings” of these groups wouldn’t draw the money. And it WOULD draw attention to just how few homosexuals there are in the population. That won’t fit the media template.


7 posted on 04/28/2013 7:40:25 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: newb2012

I shudder to think what kind of merit badges would be offered by this group.


8 posted on 04/28/2013 7:41:04 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: newb2012

that is NOT the goal of the gay agenda.

They are not looking for equality or fair treatment.

They are looking for the destruction of ANYTHING that honors God.

Plain and simple.


9 posted on 04/28/2013 7:41:54 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: newb2012

Good idea. Then we can try to join and sue them into bankruptcy because they won’t allow “moral” or “straight” people into their organization.


10 posted on 04/28/2013 7:42:21 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
Progressive Facists don’t really want anyone to have choices.

Exactly. Look at the struggle it took to allow students to hear Rick Santorum speak (with Permission) because school officials disagree with him on a completely different issue than what the speech was about. Look at the attacks on Ben Carson over his stance on gay marriage that are completely unrelated to his line of work.

These regressive totalitarians are working to bring about the dark ages due to their hatred of anyone who steps out of line. Thank God they weren't there to silence Jonas Salk, Albert Einstein, or Van Gogh.
11 posted on 04/28/2013 7:43:29 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: UCANSEE2

We should be doing that now.


12 posted on 04/28/2013 7:43:33 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: newb2012
Not bad for a first attempt.

They wouldn't be able to call it Scouts or Scouting as those are trademarked terms for youth groups.

I imagine Post and Explorers are out as well.

(Still, "Gay Explorers" has a certain je ne sais quoi)...

13 posted on 04/28/2013 7:44:43 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them. Gun confiscation enables tyranny.)
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To: null and void

Rump Rangers?


14 posted on 04/28/2013 7:45:24 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

This is why collapse is good in the long run. When it happens, the libs succumb to the law of the jungle they so desire and the rest rebuild without them.

Sucks short term, Good long term.


15 posted on 04/28/2013 7:45:43 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: newb2012

You could call it separate but equal, no way it could fail.


16 posted on 04/28/2013 7:45:51 AM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: cripplecreek

Rangers would work. Rump, Rug, Rough...


17 posted on 04/28/2013 7:47:17 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them. Gun confiscation enables tyranny.)
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To: Thorliveshere

I agree 100% with you about tearing down traditional values, but it is also about devaluing God and Christianity.

As with abortion (legal murder)...even if man were to make homosexual marriage peachy keen and legal, it will not be right in the eyes of God. And in the end, answers will have to be provided.

I’ve always been perplexed by the little people who need to tear others down to build themselves up in either stature or position, the lavender mafia reminds me of such people.
It isn’t about truly standing up for anything of substance, but rather tearing down others to make their positions seem more important and valued.


18 posted on 04/28/2013 7:47:53 AM PDT by ebersole
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To: cripplecreek

Rug won’t work. Everyone has hardwood floors these days...


19 posted on 04/28/2013 7:49:07 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them. Gun confiscation enables tyranny.)
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To: newb2012
This is NOT about allowing in queers participate in scouting. This is about tearing down another decent American institution. NOTHING liberals do is about elevating or including anyone. It is always about bringing down the rest and destroying the moral, ethical, decent, honest, motivated, patriotic, and spiritual in society.
20 posted on 04/28/2013 7:59:01 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: Proud2BeRight

Yes, and they’ll use children to be their crack troops...


21 posted on 04/28/2013 8:04:18 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them. Gun confiscation enables tyranny.)
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To: newb2012

I hate to imagine what the merit badges would be for.


22 posted on 04/28/2013 8:08:10 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: newb2012

That would be cool. You could get a gender change surgery merit badge.


23 posted on 04/28/2013 8:13:18 AM PDT by struggle
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To: newb2012

Interior Decorating badge. Yep, this is a thing.

24 posted on 04/28/2013 8:23:42 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: newb2012
Question: "How about starting an exclusive Gay/Lesbian Scouts?"

Answer: How about criminalizing Sodomite behavior? It was properly criminal for centuries. Physically it causes disease, morally it degrades a person, psychologically it warps a person; just look at the seminaked lesbians attacking the Catholic Bishop.

25 posted on 04/28/2013 8:31:21 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: newb2012

26 posted on 04/28/2013 8:32:36 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: newb2012

In all of this mess it’s the chuckleheaded adults we need to be going after, not the kids. I don’t care how gay any child seems, we have God’s word on it that he hasn’t designed a “gay” identity for them.


27 posted on 04/28/2013 8:32:41 AM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: newb2012
Interesting idea, but with the Homosexuals standing at less than 2% there would not be enough demand to start a troop in a given area. A second issue is innocence, for a sexual predator, it is not near as exciting reworking sexually abused children as it is “breaking in” a new one. So there will be far less volunteer Scout “Masters”.
28 posted on 04/28/2013 8:38:53 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Thorliveshere

Just like the “Palestinians” the goal is not freedom, the goal is to destroy at any cost. Some people are just evil to the core.


29 posted on 04/28/2013 8:40:29 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: newb2012

Imagine their equivalents:

Cub Scouts —> ChickenHawks

Boy/Girl Scouts ——> Gay Blades

Explorers ——> Semenarians

Adult Leadership ——> None


30 posted on 04/28/2013 8:42:20 AM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border. I **DARE** you to cross it. . . .)
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To: martin_fierro

But what of the badge for Drag Racing ???


31 posted on 04/28/2013 8:43:22 AM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border. I **DARE** you to cross it. . . .)
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To: newb2012

I’m trying not to picture the merit badges.


32 posted on 04/28/2013 8:57:47 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: chrisser

How about that badge for sparkle?


33 posted on 04/28/2013 9:06:14 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: newb2012

The homosexualists are an arm of the left:

http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”

They are not attempting to seek redress of some injustice, as they pretend, and as their apologists pretend. They do not desire a separate scouting organization- that would defeat their actual purpose, which is to break up or weaken institutions that harbor or espouse real American values. This would occur because, in the case of the Scouts, once the homosexuals infested it, good people would shun it. Thus, Scouting would be destroyed, and the left would grow stronger.


34 posted on 04/28/2013 9:14:08 AM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: newb2012

What a great idea. Can you imagine? A Merit Badge in show tunes and one for flood prevention on the Mississippi River.


35 posted on 04/28/2013 9:44:45 AM PDT by AdaGray
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To: newb2012

Welcome newb2012 and nice thought provoking probe.

California just passed a law making it illegal for groups to try to straighten out gays? It made so called reparative therapy illegal.

So why are NAMBLA and LGBT accusing the Boy Scouts of sex discrimination? What if the Boy Scouts “accidentally” turn a gay boy straight? Why would they want a boy under BSA influence?

How can the BSA ever win - at least in California and more states to come?

It just shows their true agenda - anything to screw up society and the moral order. And to infiltrate BSA with gay counselors and leaders.


36 posted on 04/28/2013 9:56:45 AM PDT by A'elian' nation
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The left will never agree to that, because the purpose of the exercise is *not* the advocacy of homosexuality, but the destruction of the Boy Scouts as an organization, because it is not controlled and integrated in the agenda of the left.

To put this in perspective, the left learned the value of youth movements from the Nazis. Just five years after the founding of the Hitler Jugend, to create a next generation of ideologically pure Nazi party members, the socialist and communist youth leagues in Norway merged to form a youth movement based on the same idea: to create an organization to train the next generation of ideologically pure socialist-communist leaders.

And this is why Anders Breivik tried to exterminate as many of the Workers’ Youth League (AUF) of the Labour Party in Norway as possible. And his doing so has effectively crippled the socialist-communist effort to destroy Norway and the Norwegians as a unique nation and people, for a generation or two.

In any event, the Boy Scouts represent an organization in America that embraces many things the left hates and wants to destroy, because they are the opposite of the leftist agenda. These things include:

1) Embrace of religion and religious values.
2) An apolitical nature. Unless they are leftist, then they are “the enemy.”
3) Endorsement of traditional values of family, loyalty, patriotism, Americanism, and individuality.
4) Personal and sexual morality, which leftists find abhorrent.

Importantly, the Socialist International, an organization of leftist political parties from around the world, to which the Democrats are affiliated, if not members, holds as its platform several ideas in contention with the Boy Scouts.

That nations, religions, history, unique cultures and peoples exist for no reason, are inherently bad and cause war. Therefore socialists must strive to internationalize, homogenize and make humans as generic as possible.

Individual success and failure are to be discouraged, with low level mediocrity much preferred over individual success based on intelligence, skill, motivation, talent, wealth or other unfair things.

Abundance in anything is seen as destructive to socialism, in which all things must be rationed by the state to maintain its power. So that which is abundant must be wasted or destroyed, or the fact of its abundance concealed from the public. Abundance is to be reserved solely for the ruling elites.


37 posted on 04/28/2013 10:08:32 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: newb2012
Its as good/bad as allowing a girl to be in a boy scouts team where there is a great chance for the weaker(/sarc) sex to get molested. Instead why not have an exclusive gay scouts team where everyone can feel at home. I'm sure there is no way that can be called discrimination as we already have been discriminating 'boy scouts' and 'girl scouts' for ages.

I'm sorry to undermine your argument but I discovered recently that they have been admitting girls into the Boy Scouts for some time. I have spoken to some of these girls and they seem to be doing OK. BTW they did not appear to be lesbian.

As for the gay scouts, I too am concerned about the recent decision. But I'm not sure if it would be better to have a 100% gay troop that is all about being gay. I did know one boy who came out as gay after he had been in the Boy Scouts. At the time he was in the Scouts I always thought he was a nice kid and my impression was that he was a good scout. If there were any problems concerning his membership, I don't know about them. But I'm not sure that there wouldn't be problems in other cases. I do agree that gays should not be scout leaders.

38 posted on 04/28/2013 10:17:05 AM PDT by wideminded
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No because then disgusting boys and unattractive girls would required to tent together to prevent hanky panky.


39 posted on 04/28/2013 10:31:02 AM PDT by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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To: wideminded
I'm sorry to undermine your argument but I discovered recently that they have been admitting girls into the Boy Scouts for some time.

Yep. Since about 1970. I was a member of one of the first co-ed Explorer posts.

40 posted on 04/28/2013 11:16:09 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them. Gun confiscation enables tyranny.)
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To: newb2012

There have been gay scouts since scouting began. We had gay kids in our troop back in 1973. But we did not care because our identity was not based on what we did with our penises. We were not doing anything with our penises.

We were taught about loyalty, and trust-worthiness. We learned about team work. We learned about how the world worked.

Our sexuality was not even a consideration.

I am so sick of seeing how people define themselves by what they do with their sex organs.


41 posted on 04/28/2013 11:20:21 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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To: Vermont Lt; Morgana

so, it’d be a sex club for kids and pedophiles ?


42 posted on 04/28/2013 11:21:52 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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NO!

My point is that if kids were left to themselves, it would not be an issue. We had kids who turned out gay. No one beat them up. They did not try to sodomize anyone. We were 12 or 13 for God’s sake.

I am not advocating gay leadership. I am not advocating gay instruction.

I am saying, leave the kids alone. They are more tolerant and less interested in this stuff than the adults are.


43 posted on 04/28/2013 11:26:25 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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To: null and void

Apparently girls are not just Explorers now but actually in the regular Boy Scouts.


44 posted on 04/28/2013 11:31:01 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: Vermont Lt

please. I hope BSA goes bankrupt and shuts down if this is enacted.

Don’t ask, don’t tell is a good idea


45 posted on 04/28/2013 11:37:29 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Vermont Lt

“turned out gay” is not the same as a self-proclaimed gay from the start, those are the types who will be looking to sodomize someone


46 posted on 04/28/2013 11:58:38 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: newb2012
I believe you may be on to something. Great idea.
47 posted on 04/28/2013 12:13:26 PM PDT by willibeaux (de ole Korean War vet age 83)
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To: newb2012

Canada already has a Gay/Lesbian troop...since 1999
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/19991103/aponline161126_000.htm
“Scouts” 18-26!?! They march in the Toronto Gay Pride Parade too. Contact your local BSA Councils. The vote is next month!


48 posted on 04/28/2013 12:48:38 PM PDT by Bonneville (Truth...the new hate speech)
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To: GeronL

Really? You cannot be that naive.

In any event, your black and white world died in the sixties.


49 posted on 04/28/2013 1:06:58 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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To: Vermont Lt

Nope. Reality did not die in the 60’s.


50 posted on 04/28/2013 1:07:47 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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