Skip to comments.Cars. Which 1 do you drive-import or American, etc.
Posted on 05/01/2013 4:00:03 AM PDT by salamancaspain
Let's talk cars. Which cars you drive, etc.
The best American cars architecturally came out from 1970-74. My favorite would be the 1971 Dodge Dart because my dad had 1 from 1974-79 when I was 4 to 10 years old & this car took us to many places from NYC to Los Angeles & the places the car takes you to leave memories. Other best American cars architecturally would be the 1971 to 1974 AMC Javelin, 1971 to 1974 Dodge Charger and the 1971 to 1973 Ford Mustang. AMC Hornets were good.
But since 1980 when American automakers started making cars in association with Japanese, German & so on, cars are often just not American looking. The 2013 Dodge Dart has nice techonolgy, but the problem is that it's not American looking as it's made in association with Fiat. They should make the Dodge Dart with the 1971 architecture, only that it has other technical advances.
Japanese make nice cars, but I wouldn't buy a Japanese car anymore. Americans buy many Japanese cars, but Japanese don't buy enough American goods. If the US wants to import Japanese cars, that's fine. But there's no excuse to import SUV or trucks. American trucks & SUV are better than imports. They must stop imports of SUV & trucks. If you want to buy a truck or SUV in the USA, then it has to be American. USA must stop importing SUV & trucks.
If you're going to buy an import car, then better to buy a German or Korean car, as both those nations have better trade. With German cars, if it were my choice, only Volkswagens (Jettas, Beetles & Bus if they bring this back) & Porsches (911, Boxster & if they bring this back the Caiman) would be imported to the USA. They must stop importing Audis, BMW & Mercedes to the USA.
They can continue importing Ferraris, Lamborghinis, Maseratis & Bentleys because those are luxury cars which most people can't afford. With motorcycles, they must limit or even stop imports. Harley Davidsons must be the only motorcycle in the USA & in India & Vietnam, they're going to build Harley Davidsons, though light powered when compared to what you get in the USA. Ford, GM & Chrysler must also look @ selling cars in India, because India would be a good place to sell American cars in Asia. Now I know alot of people will say that while my ideas are ideal, they're not practical. But what do you think of my ideas on cars? Which cars do you drive & what are your views? Again, the best American cars architecturally came out from 1970 to 1974.
import built in the USA
Figured since I’m living in Michigan, I should buy American and support my neighbors. (Especially, since a portion of their tax dollars helps to pay my salary)
$2200 Jeep 99.
$4500 Subaru 06.
$500 Toyota pickup 96.
400K total miles.
I hope to learn here what to buy next. I am on my 11th Volvo, ‘05 XC90 bought new. No more Volvo after this one gets pssed on to my daughter. Now owned by China, TOO expensive to buy,drive and maintain.I want to move from Maine to Florida and get a convertable.
classic cars 67 Chevelle original with 34k miles, 32 Ford repro, 67 Firebird convertible.
My favorites were the CJ7, Tahoe, Chevelle and 32 (by far)
‘94 Ford Explorer 175,000 miles
‘89 Ford F 150 56,000 miles
‘85 Toyota P/U 350,000 miles
2008 Passat Wagon. I love it.
I own a pristine 2003 Mercury Marauder. I no longer drive it as I live 18 miles outside of town and with alcohol gas it gets only 16 mpg. It costs me $12-15 to drive it into town and back.
I bought a 2010 Jetta Sportwagen TDI. It gets 40 mpg. It’s a tad on the small side and every surface is hard. It’s like driving while seated in a marble mausoleum. Other than that it’s relatively quiet (with Michelins, the Hankooks were LOUD.)
I would never own a GM or Chrysler because of what Obama did to gain control of them. They are dead to me.
Having said that, it’s unlikely I’ll ever buy a new car again because of the legacy cost. The amount of value you lose on signing is due to the retirement and medical costs of the people who are no longer working for the manufacturer but still on the payroll. (Communism.)
I have a Mustang and a Lincoln. I also have a Mitsubishi Gallant as my beater car, “from the people that brought you Perl Harbor”...
2010 Ford Focus
2007 Nissan Titan
1969 VW Beetle Convertible
One American - assembled in Michigan
One Japanese - built in Mississippi
One German - with enough replacement parts from the US, Mexico, Brazil, China, etc. to be considered a world car
In the past, I’ve had GM cars and trucks (from a 70 Buick to an 04 Chevy), one other Ford (76 Granada), A Dodge Dakota, a Mitsubishi-built Dodge Colt, 4 other VW’s (including a pos Mexican-built New Beetle), and the biggest lemon, a 74 Triumph Spitfire.
Chevy 1 ton 15 passenger van. I hate chevy especially since the bailout but with ten children still at home I don’t have a lot of options.
Unfortunately four cars right now,
2009 Toyota minivan safe and reliable
2001 Dodge 1500 pickup
2004 VW Golf for our 17 yr old
1987 Porsche 944S, for fun
A couple of Hondas built in Ohio.
Name one car that doesn’t have a large percentage of imported parts. I’d say that the line between “import” and “domestic” is pretty blurry or maybe nonexistent.
“what do you think of my ideas on cars...the best American cars architecturally came out from 1970 to 1974.”
I had a 77 CJ5 back in HS in the late 80s. Great ride.
2012 Tacoma, 2010 Camry, 65 M38/CJ5, 78 K5 Blazer, and the remains of a 68 CJ5.
71-75....Camaro RS....gave to family member @35K miles
75-90....Chrysler Cordoba....225K miles when sold
90-94....Ford T Bird 6 cyl Sold @48K miles
94-98....Ford T Bird 8 cyl crashed into and destroyed
98-2010..Ford Taurus...gave to family member @ 175K mile
2010-now Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8.....28K miles
I’ve got a Honda CR-V for the wife since she likes the all wheel drive in snow. And I’ve got an Accord for me to commute in. That gets around 28 on the highway as well.
2012 Ford Fiesta, made in Mexico. Rated at maybe 38-39 MPG highway, but driving a 5-speed manual and being careful, I can get 45 MPG with regularity. No hybrid, either.
You sound like a MOPAR fan trying to get sympathy and justify your poor choices ;-).
Consequently, you may have started a gear-head war.
Cletus drives GM and a “hybrid” (Geo Tracker)
2002 Toyota Sequioa
2009 Acura TSX
These both are the best cars I’ve ever owned.
I made the mistake of thinking that as long as something had one of the big 3 Japanese brand names on it, it was high quality. Mistake!! I am now the regretful owner of a 2004 Nissan Frontier and it is a total pile of junk. Average 17mpg(worst of any small truck in it’s class), very undeerpowered for v6, must replace serpentine belt on front of motor every 30K miles(half the interval time of most vehicles) cooling system issues that while hasn’t let me down, results in significant repair bill every other year. It’s geared way too low for highway use. RPMs are 3K on the tach at 70mph(too much for v6). I had a 4x4 Ford Ranger with 5 speed that didn’t run that high rpms and did much better on fuel mileage. Frame is rusting on it. I have to drive it atleast 3 more years, then I’m going back to Honda and not looking back or sideways(GM,Ford,Dodge) for that matter.
Worse car I had was a Chrysler. I have a Nissan. Best investment so far.
2013 Ford Lariat
2013 Ford Focus LE
1994 Toyota pickup with 74,000 original miles on it.
Before that, a 1990 Honda Accord. I learned to drive on a '71 AMC Javelin (my Dad's car) that looked a lot like this.
New jeep wrangler sport with the soft top.
2005 Chrysler 300C, mint condition and low mileage.
2007 Ford F-150 King Ranch Pick up
(not really, but I can dream)
1992 Chevrolet Caprice, 183,000 miles. Original motor, rebuilt transmission.
It’ been awhile since I did the begats on my cars. If I got into it here, I’d probably bring the server down.
I’ve had approximately 50 cars and a motorcycle in 43 years. Bought the same car twice ( don’t ask...the family chalks this up as to me having a “cortisone” shot reaction)
I had a 2010 Sonata I took into the dealer for an oil change and walked out with a 2013 Elantra....they didn’t charge me for the oil change.
Car I liked the best and miss the most was a 1991 Buick Century.
Most fun to drive was a 1997 Aurora with a short-star engine.
Car I wish I had not traded was a 2005 Elantra GT.
Best all around is the Equinox - the wife’s car.
I’ve had 5 Hyundai’s in 8 years. I like the warranty, my friends laugh and ask me why I care ?
And make sure that new jeep wrangler sport is the two door model. Four doors invites too many potential passengers and the jeep is for when you want to get away from it all.
I have driven and owned a LOT of cars for a guy my age.
The biggest smiles came to me in my E36 BMW M3 convertible. Just make SURE you get a PPI. In convertibles there is the amazing 4 seater M3 and there is everything else.
“Mustangs” and the like aren’t even remotely in the same category of ANY aspect of the car, including reliability. This is a car that drives like a mid-engine supercar. It is just breathtaking.
No competition in the used price range of the E36 M3s (can’t vouch for the later models - never had one - they are 8cyls) But don’t take free advice too seriously. Drive and you will see.
And... read Jalopnik!
2012 GMC 2500 4x4 and a 2010 GMC Acadia.
2000 Chevy Silverado 117,000 miles
2012 Toyota Tacoma 2000 miles
I would have bought another Chevy but Obama ruined that with his union bailout and screwing the GM and Chrysler investors.
Excellent post, General! Agree or am informed on all points.
99 Nissan small bed PU .. 200K
Both in the 23 mpg range
While I don’t have one now there was a time when I collected and rebuilt old Broncos, when I hit my 60’s I gave it up but I sure do miss them. My favorite was a stone stock 72 model, finding one that somebody hadn’t already cut the wheelwells out was tough. It was the last one I had and sold it to the owner of Bob Brock Ford.
Actually I like my 2011 Volkswagen Jetta & I missed my 1999 Chevrolete Cavalier after I sold that after 51,868 miles owning this car for 12 years, 1 month, 24 days. I liked my 1984 Porsche 944 (bought it for $6,500 in 1994 traded it in for $2,500 in 1999) but the problem again is that it’s so expensive to repair. The Chevrolet Chevette I had was a poor choice in that it consistently broke down.
With MOPAR (pony cars), the 2 which I liked were the 1971-1974 AMC Javelin & the 1971 to 1974 Charger. I was 4 years old in 1974. While the Dodge Challengers & Barracudas made those years have nice architecture, I’m not a big car person. I like cars which are small to midsize. But they should bring the cars with these years architecture-1971 Dodge Dart, 1971 to 74 Dodge Challenger & AMC Javelin along with the 1971 to 1973 Ford Mustang, only with technical advances that have happened since then such as better gas mileage, computers, etc. It’s good that American car companies work with Fiat, Daimler (past with Chrysler), etc. but keep the American architecture of cars.
Wife has a 1999 Camry. Far and away the best, most reliable car I have ever owned. The four-cylinder is a little underpowered, but gets over 30 mpg on the highway and around 25 around town. In over 10 years of ownership, other than regular maintenance, I have replaced a leaking water pump and a starter. With 115k miles on it, if we drive it until the wheels fall off, we will probably be willing it to one of our sons.
'06 Trailblazer for me. Like everything except the gas mileage. And a 2003 Altima for the 18-year old.
So, I guess I fit your 'Japanese car, American SUV' profile, although I have nothing against imported SUVs
81 VW rabbit truck unknown mile (odmeter stopped at 180,000)
91 f-150 250,000 miles
96 Mercury villager van 206,000 miles
Anything not built by the UAW.
Do the basics and keep the fluids clean and don’t beat ‘em up ... I’m convinced many (but I don’t think all) could go a half a mil.
Infiniti M37 built outside the US.
audi a4. probably my favourite car i’ve owned.
also have an 82 cj7, built up a bunch. no top. no doors.