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Ten Cities with the Worst Traffic
Wall Street 24X7 ^ | 05/01/2013 | Alexander E.M. Hess and Samuel Weigley

Posted on 05/01/2013 7:00:14 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

>Last year, the average American driver wasted 38 hours sitting in traffic. While the occasional traffic jam inconveniences most drivers, some unlucky people live in the nation’s most congested cities. In addition to spending an average of 42 hours a year in traffic, drivers in these cities face peak hour congestion that can increase travel time during rush hour by 15% or more.

INRIX, a traffic information and services group, collects data for individual road segments. In its 2012 Traffic Scorecard, INRIX calculated the amount of time that congestion added to drivers’ peak hour commute for each road. After aggregating these segments for each metropolitan area, it ranked the Los Angeles area as the city with the worst congestion in 2012. At peak hours, traffic on Interstate 405 in Los Angeles moved at just 14 miles per hour, adding 26 minutes to what should be an eight minute drive. Based on the INRIX Traffic Scorecard, these are the 10 cities with the worst traffic.

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According to INRIX, congestion is the difference between the drivers’ actual speed on the road during peak hours and their speed when congestion is not an issue, as distinguished from how fast people are traveling during peak hours. Of course, this problem also extends travel time during both morning and evening rush hours. In 2011, six of the 20 cities with the longest average commute time were among the 10 cities with biggest difference between peak and nonpeak travel time. Two of these metro areas, Washington D.C. and New York, had average commutes of more than 34 minutes — the longest in the nation.

Not surprisingly, population density is a contributing factor to traffic congestion. Of the 10 metro areas that had the highest population density as of 2010, six were also among the nation’s 10 most congested. This group includes New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco, the three most-densely populated metro areas in the United States.

In many of the worst cities for traffic congestion, a relatively high percentage of commuters use public transportation. In 2011, more than 31% of New York area residents took public transportation to get to work, more than double any other metro area. Despite this, New York’s peak hour congestion was among the worst in the nation. While a relatively high percentage of residents in these cities use public transportation, highways, bridges and tunnels remain overwhelmed by the millions of commuters that continue to drive to work.

To determine the 10 cities with the worst traffic, 24/7 Wall St. reviewed figures published by the INRIX Traffic Scorecard for 2012. The scorecard assigns an index score for the 100 largest metropolitan statistical areas, and individual road segments within those areas. Scores are functions of the percentage difference between road segments’ uncongested (or “free flow”) travel time and the calculated travel time on the roads during peak hours (6:00 a.m. to 10:00 a.m. and 3:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m., Monday through Friday). 24/7 Wall St. also reviewed population density from the 2010 Census, as well as travel time and commuting methods for each metro area from the Census Bureau’s 2011 American Community Survey. All data used were the most recent available.

These are the 10 cities with the worst traffic.

10. Boston
> Congestion score: 14.7
> Population density: 1,305.4 people per sq. mile (9th highest)
> Average commute time: 29.2 minutes (tied for 10th highest)
> Pct. driving to work: 76.6% (8th lowest)

It took commuters in Boston 14.7% longer to travel during peak hours than it would without traffic in 2012. This is more than double the nationwide congestion level. Among the major reasons for this was Interstate 93, three stretches of which ranked among the 50 most congested corridors in the nation. The interstate was rerouted from an elevated highway running above Boston to a tunnel running below the city as part of the area’s famous “Big Dig” project, which ran billions of dollars over budget and took decades to finish.

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9. Washington D.C.
> Congestion score: 16.4
> Population density: 997.1 people per sq. mile (18th highest)
> Average commute time: 34.5 minutes (2nd highest)
> Pct. driving to work: 76% (6th lowest)

Just 76% of all Washington D.C. area commuters used a private vehicle to get to work in 2011, less than nearly all other large metropolitan areas. And as many as 14.8% of commuters used public transit — among the most in the nation. But with the Washington area among the nation’s most congested, the average commute time to work was 34.5 minutes — behind only the New York metro area. Traffic congestion did improve in 2012, when the city received a congestion score of 16.4 — down from 19.9 the year before. The lower score indicates that drivers are traveling closer to “free flow” speed during peak hours, even as large stretches of Interstate 95 and the Capital Beltway ranked among the worst congestion corridors in the nation.

8. Seattle
> Congestion score: 17.6 (tied for 7th highest)
> Population density: 585.8 people per sq. mile (35th highest)
> Average commute time: 27.6 minutes (22nd highest)
> Pct. driving to work: 81% (20th lowest)

Congestion in Seattle actually improved in 2012, with the INRIX index score declining from 19.6 in 2011 to 17.6 last year. Despite this improvement, Seattle remains one of the most congested metro areas in the nation and had some of the most congested individual roads in the country in 2012. Among these was a nine-mile, southbound stretch of Interstate 5, which ranked as the 11th most congested corridor in the nation in 2012. Last March, The Seattle Times noted that new tolls on the nearby Highway 520 had led to increased congestion on Interstate 5.

7. San Jose
> Congestion score: 17.6 (tied for 7th highest)
> Population density: 685.7 people per sq. mile (26th highest)
> Average commute time: 24.8 minutes (65th highest)
> Pct. driving to work: 86.7% (61st lowest)

Only one stretch of road in the San Jose area ranked in the top 100 most congested in the nation in 2012. Despite this, overall congestion in the area was among the nation’s worst last year, receiving an INRIX index a score of 17.6. Additionally, the San Jose area’s score actually worsened in 2012 compared to 2011, even as the nationwide congestion score improved from 8.4 to 6.6. San Jose residents were roughly as likely as most Americans to drive to work, according to Census figures.

6. Bridgeport
> Congestion score: 19.1
> Population density: 1,467.2 people per sq. mile (6th highest)
> Average commute time: 28.3 minutes (18th highest)
> Pct. driving to work: 82.2% (29th lowest)

The worst traffic in the Bridgeport, Conn., metropolitan area — which serves for many of the state’s commuters as a gateway to the New York metro area — was on a 22.2 mile stretch of Interstate 95 during the evening rush hour. Without traffic, it would take a driver 21 minutes to complete the stretch. During the week’s evening rush hour, it would take 44 minutes to complete that drive. The Bridgeport metro area had one of the highest population densities in the nation when measured by the 2010 Census.

5. New York
> Congestion score: 19.9
> Population density: 2,826 people per sq. mile (the highest)
> Average commute time: 34.9 minutes (the highest)
> Pct. driving to work: 56.6% (the lowest)

With 2,896 people per square mile in 2010, New York had the highest population density of any metro area in America. That year, nearly 19 million people lived either in New York or the surrounding towns and cities, and many of them made long commutes to work daily. The average travel time to work in 2011 was nearly 35 minutes, the most of any metro area in the nation. New York ranked among the most congested metro areas despite more residents using public transit to get to work and fewer residents using cars than anywhere else in the nation. Four of the 10 worst congested corridors in America last year were located in New York, including the nation’s worst: an 11.3 mile stretch of the Cross Bronx Expressway.

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4. Austin
> Congestion score: 20.7
> Population density: 406.7 people per sq. mile (70th highest)
> Average commute time: 25.8 minutes (45th highest)
> Pct. driving to work: 85.8% (47th lowest)

No metro area with more than a million residents had a greater percentage increase in population from July 1, 2011, and July 1, 2012, than Austin’s 3% growth, according to the Austin Statesman. This is hardly news for the area, which has expanded rapidly for more than a decade and, like much of the state, has been unable to expand transportation infrastructure to handle this growth. In 2012, Austin was one of four metro areas with an INRIX index score higher than 20, well above the 6.6 score for the U.S. overall. It was also one of just six large metro areas in which the INRIX index score worsened compared to the year before.

3. San Francisco
> Congestion score: 23.5
> Population density: 1,754.8 people per sq. mile (3rd highest)
> Average commute time: 29.2 minutes (tied for 10th highest)
> Pct. driving to work: 71.4% (3rd lowest)

As many as 14.6% of workers in San Francisco took public transit to work in 2011, the third-highest rate of any metro area in the nation. Additionally, just 71.4% used a car, truck or van to get to work, the third-lowest percentage in the U.S. But despite the high public transit use, the area remained highly congested. Likely contributing to its high congestion is the area’s high density. The San Francisco area had the nation’s third-highest population density in 2010, with just under 1,755 people per square mile — behind only the New York and Los Angeles metro areas. In late 2010, the San Francisco County Transportation Authority decided to study whether charges would discourage drivers from traveling by car through highly congested areas during peak hours. A decision on implementing such charges has yet to be reached.

2. Honolulu
> Congestion score: 26.0
> Population density: 1,586.7 people per sq. mile (5th highest)
> Average commute time: 27 minutes (27th highest)
> Pct. driving to work: 79.5% (14th lowest)

Honolulu is one of the densest metro areas in the nation, with more than 1,586 people per square mile, as of 2010. Commuters were also considerably less likely to get to work by car, truck or van than most Americans, and were far more likely to walk or use public transit. Although just two Honolulu road segments, barely totaling 11 miles, were among the nation’s 100 most congested corridors in 2012, the area still ranked exceptionally poorly. However, the city’s congestion score improved from 2011, when it had the worst levels in the country. After years of planning and delays, Honolulu broke ground on a massive public rail transit project in 2011. The project has long been controversial due to its environmental impact, cost and the possibility of disturbing the burial sites of Native Hawaiians’ ancestors.

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1. Los Angeles
> Congestion score: 28.8
> Population density: 2,646.0 people per sq. mile (2nd highest)
> Average commute time: 28.6 minutes (15th highest)
> Pct. driving to work: 84.1% (38th lowest)

After being replaced by Honolulu for a year, Los Angeles once again earned the title of the most congested metro area in the country. In 2012, on a Friday at 5:00 p.m., the average driver wasted more than 28 minutes in traffic. Four of the 10 most congested corridors last year were in the Los Angeles metropolitan area. The worst is an eight-mile stretch on Interstate 405. Los Angeles also had the second highest population density of any metro area in 2010, behind only New York, at 2,646 people per square mile. Only these two metro areas exceeded 2,000 people per square mile that year. However, in Los Angeles, commuters were far less likely to get to work via public transportation. In 2011, just 6.2% of area workers took public transit to work, versus 31.1% in the New York area.


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1 posted on 05/01/2013 7:00:14 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Which is why I stay out of cities as much as possible, although I do go to Carson City and Reno every few months.


2 posted on 05/01/2013 7:04:08 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: SeekAndFind; txhurl; basil

The one thing I enjoy more than anything in retirement, is missing the PM commute. My 45 minute 35 mile commute in 1990 when we moved to Lago, ended up as 1 hour and 15 or 20 minutes in 2011. The 1990 trip included many traffic lights on 183, not a freeway as it is now.


3 posted on 05/01/2013 7:09:09 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: Inyo-Mono

I live so far out in the boonies that I have to pack a lunch when I go to my mail box.


4 posted on 05/01/2013 7:11:40 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: SeekAndFind

You’re lucky to get in and out of Bridgeport with a car if its the same as I remember it.


5 posted on 05/01/2013 7:12:32 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Arrowhead1952

Where is Lago?


6 posted on 05/01/2013 7:12:56 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Even after the nation’s taxpayers gifted them with a the finest subway money can buy DC is still #9. So much for the claim that mass transit eases traffic.


7 posted on 05/01/2013 7:15:47 PM PDT by DManA
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To: SeekAndFind

Sorry but Washington D.C. is the worst, simply because Virginia has the worst and most incompetent drivers by far in the country, if not the world.

I would love to protest Marxist Maryland and not spend any money there, but when I am heading down south I have to stop in Maryland to get gas because I get so infuriated by all the @$$¶¤|£ Virginia drivers who drive under the speed limit in the left lane I refuse to spend money in that state.

You people in Virginia should be embarrassed and ashamed by how bad and pathetic you drive.


8 posted on 05/01/2013 7:16:22 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: laplata
I live so far out in the boonies that I have to pack a lunch when I go to my mail box.

LOL! I hear you.

9 posted on 05/01/2013 7:17:01 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: Arrowhead1952

In cities like that, it would be nice to have a telecommuting option at home.


10 posted on 05/01/2013 7:19:49 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: laplata

Lago Vista is 35 miles NW of downtown Austin on Lake Travis.


11 posted on 05/01/2013 7:23:17 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: rwfromkansas
Some workers had that option for several days per month, but it is hard to repair vehicles via Internet.
12 posted on 05/01/2013 7:25:56 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: qam1

Worst drivers in the world are in Puerto Rico.
Hands down.


13 posted on 05/01/2013 7:28:41 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: SeekAndFind

I can’t believe Houston didn’t make the list.


14 posted on 05/01/2013 7:30:18 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: qam1

And you can add to that Virginia’s totalitarian ban on radar detectors while you’re at it.


15 posted on 05/01/2013 7:31:59 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: SeeSharp

Chicago is nearly as bad as NYC (not just the mayors or taxes, the traffic).


16 posted on 05/01/2013 7:33:44 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Arrowhead1952
No metro area with more than a million residents had a greater percentage increase in population from July 1, 2011, and July 1, 2012, than Austin’s 3% growth, according to the Austin Statesman. This is hardly news for the area, which has expanded rapidly for more than a decade and, like much of the state, has been unable to expand transportation infrastructure to handle this growth.

In 2012, Austin was one of four metro areas with an INRIX index score higher than 20, well above the 6.6 score for the U.S. overall. It was also one of just six large metro areas in which the INRIX index score worsened compared to the year before. --------------- Having an early job (6-3) helps out tremendously.

17 posted on 05/01/2013 7:38:48 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: SeekAndFind

If you build it, they will come. It is virtually impossible to build roads fast enough to ever meaningfully improve commute times for very long. Newer, faster highways attract commuters... And convinces them they can move farther out and have an acceptable commute. More and more people do this until traffic is just as lousy as it was before.

People plan their commute based on the -time- it takes, not the distance. Most people have an upper limit of about an hour, after which it starts becoming unacceptable. Likewise most people prefer and can live with a half hour commute without too much discomfort. Commute times, property values, traffic density, and housing density are all in constant flux, expanding and contracting in succession. I’m not saying it’s right or wrong or indifferent. It just is.

The funny thing is that overall... The one thing that never really changes is commute time. Notice in the above data that in all those cities the average time is still always about 30 minutes anyway, regardless.


18 posted on 05/01/2013 7:42:05 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: SeekAndFind

> 2. Honolulu

Honolulu traffic cams

http://www.kitv.com/news/traffic/traffic-cams


19 posted on 05/01/2013 7:47:00 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: qam1
If you don't like Virginia drivers stay home.
I am retired and not in a hurry. (I also don't cruse in the left lane).
I agree Virginia has some bad drivers, and the further north the worse, but I have lived in several states and driven in several countries, and I think Virginia has some of the most inconsiderate drivers, and I have lived here for several years. It is not to bad outside of NOVA, and Tidewater areas.
20 posted on 05/01/2013 7:50:18 PM PDT by DYngbld (I have read the back of the Book and we WIN!!!!)
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To: DManA

But it has about the highest ridership and lowest car commute. Looks to me it’s done it’s job. Sorry to say. It’s a good system and it shows.


21 posted on 05/01/2013 7:50:53 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Ramius

That is true. Time is far more important than distance. I used to live 25 miles from work, but it was the 45 minute commute that made me move. Now I live less than four miles away, but the urban commute means I am still 15 minutes away — damn you red lights!!!

Even though it is close, I still hate the commute. If it wasn’t for the fact that my company would call me in at all hours if I lived across the street, I would move across the street.


22 posted on 05/01/2013 7:52:23 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: txhurl
....has been unable to expand transportation infrastructure to handle this growth. ...

Yeah, but the Austin Silly council managed to get bike lanes put on major roads. What do you think about the 3' for cars and 6' for trucks clearance ordinance the council just passed? No more travel for me into the city, except to visit my cardiologist.

23 posted on 05/01/2013 7:54:44 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Have never been to Puerto Rico, but recently spent a week in Grenada and must assume their drivers are in the running.


24 posted on 05/01/2013 8:02:00 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: SeekAndFind

I just knew Washington DC would be *up there*


25 posted on 05/01/2013 8:03:30 PM PDT by Daffynition (Stand Your Ground)
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To: qam1

DC is the worst, will always be the worst. It’s as if they stopped spending on vehicle infrastructure because they got the subway....

The basic design wasn’t ideal for traffic, wasn’t meant to be, but outside of that area there’s no excuse for the poor traffic engineering.


26 posted on 05/01/2013 8:03:35 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Arrowhead1952

Thanks. I was thinking it was near Abiquiu.


27 posted on 05/01/2013 8:06:46 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

I know, it is a cadilac. Only the best for our rulers.


28 posted on 05/01/2013 8:08:53 PM PDT by DManA
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To: laplata

Dittos to that lap. I’m way up and out! ‘Heavy traffic’ up here is when more than my usual 5 deer pals cruise up to my deck each morning around 10 for their daily cracked corn and apple slices chow stop! I can’t imagine living anywhere but up in the mountains. I wouldn’t want to be anywhere near a larger city with the hell that is quickly coming.


29 posted on 05/01/2013 8:12:21 PM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a GREAT life!)
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To: bobby.223

Good for you, bobby.223. And .280 regards to you!

I don’t know how fast it’s going to happen but at least most on our side should be better prepared.

Do you think TSHTF this summer?


30 posted on 05/01/2013 8:18:19 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

I don’t go into Austin for any reason. I love my wide-open scenic hilly curvy drive to Cedar Park and that’s it.


31 posted on 05/01/2013 8:21:29 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: Paladin2

Yeah just try driving in Chicago...the Dan Ryan...the Kennedy at any time sides the middle of the night then every one is doing 90. As far as the north side...Western... Fullerton... Belmont...parking lots.


32 posted on 05/01/2013 8:22:30 PM PDT by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: laplata
I used to have a car like that, too! Eaat German engineering at its best!
33 posted on 05/01/2013 8:42:11 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was lost but now I'm found; blind but now I see.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ummm... And where’s Houston in all of this?
3 of 10 are California cities... Hmmm....


34 posted on 05/01/2013 8:44:11 PM PDT by hope_dies_last
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

LOL


35 posted on 05/01/2013 8:47:10 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: SeeSharp

I can’t believe Houston didn’t make the list.”

That was one of the names I was looking for also. Traffic must really be terrible in the other cities if we didn’t make it. Add in some rain and hail like we had Saturday and you best not be out and about.

Flipped on the TV this morning at 5 a.m. and there was already a solid stream of lights coming into the city from all directions.


36 posted on 05/01/2013 8:57:24 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Reason number 23 why I love living out in the country.


37 posted on 05/01/2013 9:12:29 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Thank Obama for creating less traffic jams due to the horrible economy. There are less people working to clog up the roads during drive times. And less traffic in general because we don’t have the money to drive.


38 posted on 05/01/2013 9:23:52 PM PDT by FreedomGuru (Without Life nothing else matters.)
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To: laplata

This summer? Very well could. There are so many ‘right on the edge’ festering concerns right now that just any one of ‘em if sparked off could snow ball all the others along compounding the nightmare.


39 posted on 05/01/2013 9:26:02 PM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a GREAT life!)
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To: bobby.223

That makes sense. There’s a lot of pent up anger out there. The powers that be want TSTHTF.


40 posted on 05/01/2013 9:38:30 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: rwfromkansas
In cities like that, it would be nice to have a telecommuting option at home.

I propose a two-step program to reduce traffic congestion.

  1. Require every government worker whose job allows telecommuting to telecommute.
  2. Outsource all those telecommuting government jobs to the Philippines.

41 posted on 05/01/2013 9:53:25 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (People are idiots.)
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To: SeekAndFind

chicago and atlanta beat out bridgeport.


42 posted on 05/01/2013 10:00:17 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: hope_dies_last

the traffic in Houston isn’t nearly as bad as many people think. the good part about Houston is there is almost always an alternate route if there is an accident on one of the freeways.

If there is a major accident on I-5 into or out of Seattle during rush hour, you are totally screwed for hours at a time.


43 posted on 05/01/2013 10:01:22 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: txhurl
I don’t go into Austin for any reason. I love my wide-open scenic hilly curvy drive to Cedar Park and that’s it.

I used to go to a cardiologist at Round Rock medical complex, but he moved to another state. Now I have to go to Austin Heart at 38th & Lamar. Other than that, I may go to Mabry once every two or three months and never during rush hour.

44 posted on 05/02/2013 4:37:38 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: Blackirish

I just drove through there yesterday afternoon and was reminded why I eschew large cities in general.


45 posted on 05/02/2013 4:45:50 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: SeeSharp
I can’t believe Houston didn’t make the list.

Or Dallas and Atlanta

46 posted on 05/02/2013 4:54:52 AM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

I think someone around the corner from me has a car like that!


47 posted on 05/02/2013 5:05:15 AM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Living out here on the left coast, north of Gay Frisco and not that far from San Jose, we can be impacted by both.

I had to laugh at the commute time of Gay Frisco drivers, Average commute time: 29.2 minutestied for 10th highest).
That obviously deals only with Gay Frisco drivers. You can spend more time than that trying to get across the Bay Bridge or Golden Gate Bridge. You need a snack, porta potty and a nap to get from San Jose to Gay Frisco during commute time.

When I turned fifty, I warned all relatives if they intended to visit us an flew into SFO or San Jose, they were responsible for getting from the airport to wino country and back.

If their arrival didn’t interfere with work, I would pick them up at the Sac airport and take them back unless they landed or took off during rush hours. If they did, they were responsible for getting here and returning to the airport.

Once our guests rented a car and drove from SFO or San Jose to here, they understood why I was so firm. The same happened to those landing or taking off at Sac.

20+ years later, that traffic is worse.

We love the beaches in the Avila Beach area, and while the mileage is about 240 miles each way, the trip each way has us fighting the Gay Frisco Traffic and San Jose traffic. A trip that should take about 4 hours balloons turns into a 6-7+ hour trip. Many of those who try to make up the time on 101 south after San Jose get hammered with speeding tickets.


48 posted on 05/02/2013 8:20:10 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (I'm afraid to go visit any American college because of all the foreign students with bombs.)
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To: qam1
You people in Virginia should be embarrassed and ashamed by how bad and pathetic you drive.

Hey! At least we're allowed to pump our own gas...

49 posted on 05/02/2013 8:27:07 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Fighting Obama without Boehner & McConnell is like going deer hunting without your accordion)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Absolutely! I don’t remember how many times we saw people driving the wrong way down the road. Red lights are suggestions, I noticed.

That was pretty much the only thing I didn’t like about living down there.


50 posted on 05/02/2013 8:31:50 AM PDT by Hoosier Catholic Momma (How long till my Arkansas drawl fades into the twang of southeast Ohio?)
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