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Starving Settlers in Jamestown Colony Resorted to Cannibalism
smithsonianmag.com ^ | May 01, 2013 | Joseph Stromberg

Posted on 05/02/2013 3:41:19 AM PDT by kimtom

The harsh winter of 1609 in Virginia’s Jamestown Colony forced residents to do the unthinkable. A recent excavation at the historic site discovered the carcasses of dogs, cats and horses consumed during the season commonly called the “Starving Time.” But a few other newly discovered bones in particular, though, tell a far more gruesome story: the dismemberment and cannibalization of a 14-year-old English girl.

“The chops to the forehead are very tentative, very incomplete,” says Douglas Owsley, the Smithsonian forensic anthropologist who analyzed the bones after they were found by archaeologists from Preservation Virginia. “Then, the body was turned over, and there were four strikes to the back of the head, one of which was the strongest and split the skull in half. A penetrating ..........

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TOPICS: Education; History; Miscellaneous; Science
KEYWORDS: cannibalism; godsgravesglyphs; jamestown; ushistory
Could we end up here again???
1 posted on 05/02/2013 3:41:19 AM PDT by kimtom
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To: kimtom

2 posted on 05/02/2013 3:44:26 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: kimtom

Related, from the Beeb:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3014704/posts


3 posted on 05/02/2013 3:49:23 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: kimtom

We’ve already been there. Recall how the former Clinton loving press turned on her and consumed her when Obama came on the scene.


4 posted on 05/02/2013 3:50:34 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: kimtom

Nope.

There are no written records of this ever happening.

Jamestown was recorded extensively and nothing like this ever came up except the observations that the Iroquois and other tribes engaged in cannibalism as a spiritual act, not of nutrition.

There were “claims” by some who fled the colony but, they were discounted, as there were no names of those who might have engaged in this disgusting act.

I don’t have any idea why these so called scientists would engage in this synthetic conjecture...


5 posted on 05/02/2013 3:51:44 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: kimtom
A Tale of Two Colonies "Reflections restricted to our current bounty ignore that most colonists in both Jamestown and Plymouth starved under their initial communal-property rights. Then, when private-property rights were established, starvation gave way to increasing prosperity in both colonies." http://mises.org/daily/4855

6 posted on 05/02/2013 3:57:30 AM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: kimtom

Naaaaaaaaativve Ammurriccans?
Looks like the “tomahawk chop” to me.
This kinda thing happened to a LARGE PERCENTAGE of “ immigrants” up thru the Little Big Horn up until Wounded Knee—when it stopped.
Schenectady NY, my old stomping grounds, was ONLY wiped out THREE times back in the day.


7 posted on 05/02/2013 4:01:55 AM PDT by Flintlock ("The British are coming--to TAKE OUR GUNS"--Paul Revere)
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To: kimtom

I am no cannibal, but if I were going to be one, I certainly wouldn’t start by eating the brain. I would start looking for some of the more choice cuts.

I think this scientist is full of crap and probably believes the people in Jamestown started Global Warming too.


8 posted on 05/02/2013 4:08:55 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: kimtom

A deceptive headline for a junk article.

The modern liberal just can’t resist cannibalizing history.


9 posted on 05/02/2013 4:13:04 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Life, liberty, property, family, RKBA, sovereignty, security, borders, independence, the oath.)
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To: Vendome

According to the article, there are written records of new graves being opened and bodies being removed for consumption.


10 posted on 05/02/2013 4:30:10 AM PDT by Kent1957
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To: Flintlock
your post came to mind.
The body may have been laid to rest there because of other
circumstances,and was a victim.

It isn't PC to talk about American Indian atrocities (anymore).

But Humans do strange things when faced with starvation.

11 posted on 05/02/2013 4:43:55 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: kimtom

Socialism leads to hard times. Didn’t Jamestown have a socialist set-up? Everybody sharing everybody’s crops? Until nobody wanted to work...just waited for their ‘fair share’.


12 posted on 05/02/2013 4:47:48 AM PDT by abclily
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To: abclily

Not really. The original settlement was run by a company for several years, until Virginia was made a crown colony.


13 posted on 05/02/2013 5:07:30 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Life, liberty, property, family, RKBA, sovereignty, security, borders, independence, the oath.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Thanks, my gaff


14 posted on 05/02/2013 5:11:26 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: kimtom

Isn’t this in the same vein as Jefferson’s Black love child?

Or what?


15 posted on 05/02/2013 5:54:41 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: kimtom

Not the same story; a different telling.


16 posted on 05/02/2013 5:57:26 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: kimtom

Soylent green.

Most certainly.


17 posted on 05/02/2013 5:59:37 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Vendome

It’s not saying who engaged in it, only that it happened.


18 posted on 05/02/2013 6:00:41 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: kimtom

I’ve heard that the mind stops thinking and becomes quite savage under starvation conditions.


19 posted on 05/02/2013 6:02:23 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Vendome

Yep. Revisionist po-mo twaddle concocted to cast European settlers as barbarians.

Meanwhile, the real butchers like the heart-ripping Aztecs and the predatory natives get the “Dances with Wolves” treatment.


20 posted on 05/02/2013 6:07:07 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: kimtom

Were the settlers too lazy/ignorant to fish? Harvest clams ..crabs? ?


21 posted on 05/02/2013 6:30:39 AM PDT by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type))
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To: kimtom

Mars.

Early colonists on Mars will resort to it.


22 posted on 05/02/2013 6:50:54 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Vendome

Next year they will discover they were all gay atheist soccer fans.


23 posted on 05/02/2013 7:23:53 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: TurboZamboni

I actually considered positing that.

Had two moron friends bring this up yesterday.

Sadly, for them, I am overly steeped in American history and I swatted down that idiocy.


24 posted on 05/02/2013 11:20:53 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: IronJack

Ta Tonka ...


25 posted on 05/02/2013 11:21:32 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Jonty30

It didn’t ....


26 posted on 05/02/2013 11:21:53 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Kent1957

Never read or heard of it but, that may possible.

However the article was written to leave an entirely different I.pressing.

And it didn’t happen, so far as I know or they know.


27 posted on 05/02/2013 11:24:07 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Kent1957

From the article which I’m assuming many did not read, with quotes from George Percy’s letters: George Percy, who had been president of Jamestown during the Starving Time, wrote a letter describing the colonists’ diet during that terrible winter. “Haveinge fedd upon our horses and other beastes as longe as they Lasted, we weare gladd to make shifte with vermin as doggs Catts, Ratts and myce…as to eate Bootes shoes or any other leather,” he wrote. “And now famin beginneinge to Looke gastely and pale in every face, thatt notheinge was Spared to mainteyne Lyfe and to doe those things which seame incredible, as to digge upp deade corpes outt of graves and to eate them. And some have Licked upp the Bloode which hathe fallen from their weake fellowes.”

And at this link you can download his Jamestown papers/diary:
http://www.history.org/foundation/journal/winter07/jamestownDiary.cfm


28 posted on 05/02/2013 1:08:19 PM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: Vendome

When US tried Communism [ History of Jamestown: 1607 to 1611 ]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2120669/posts
‘So great was our famine, that a Savage we slew and buried, the poorer sorte took him up againe and eat him; and so did divers one another boyled and stewed with roots and herbs.’


29 posted on 05/02/2013 3:35:06 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping


30 posted on 05/03/2013 6:30:27 PM PDT by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3014704/posts


31 posted on 05/04/2013 12:10:30 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks Renfield.

Just adding to the catalog, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


32 posted on 05/04/2013 12:11:10 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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