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Yes, They Are Coming For People's Guns in California
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| May 2, 2013
| Brian Doherty
Posted on 05/03/2013 5:27:10 AM PDT by Altariel
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To: cuban leaf
... we all agree that there needs to be some sort of criteria allowing the state to prevent some people from posessing a firearm.Do not agree on that one. Even a felon who has served his time is entitled to self defense under our second amendment. Anyone who can not be trusted to be armed should not be running around loose.
The problem is that if the state gets too agressive they can find all sorts of reasons to prevent a person from owning a gun - thanks to the squishy mental illness caveat
There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.
Ayn Rand
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posted on
05/03/2013 8:42:01 AM PDT
by
JimRed
(Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
To: Principled
While there may be some agents shot at homes as they attempt to confiscate a gun, the more likely scenario is that action is taken against the confiscating conspirators at their homes, places of business, or work, or on errands.Those who will be GIVING THE ORDERS have to be at the top of the target list. When the confiscations start, they must start having "accidents" or just disappearing. Cut off the head and the snake will die.
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posted on
05/03/2013 8:46:52 AM PDT
by
JimRed
(Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
To: showme_the_Glory
What goes hand-in-hand with the gun confiscation, is that any resistance can result in further confiscation of assets, thereby helping CA coffers.
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posted on
05/03/2013 8:50:26 AM PDT
by
SgtHooper
(The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
To: JimRed
See my post 60. We even agree on the reasoning. ;-)
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posted on
05/03/2013 8:57:44 AM PDT
by
cuban leaf
(Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
To: Altariel
I knew a man who was charged with an accidental felony (Left the scene of an accident he did not cause) back in 1939. He was later paroled from prison and walked across Europe carrying an M1-Garand for Patton.
He never had another run in with the Law. In 1968, when the 1968 Gun Control Law was passed, he was declared to be not fit to own a firearm because of the 1939 felony.
If he lived in Cali he would now be a possessor of an illegal gun.
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posted on
05/03/2013 9:15:48 AM PDT
by
Ruy Dias de Bivar
(Do we now register our pressure cookers?)
To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
In 1968, when the 1968 Gun Control Law was passed, he was declared to be not fit to own a firearm because of the 1939 felony.Not Constitutional, Ex Post Facto law.
Actually the GCA is unconstitutional, congress cannot legislate your rights away period.
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posted on
05/03/2013 9:32:32 AM PDT
by
Las Vegas Ron
(Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
To: Yosemitest; neverdem
They’re likely counting on that scenario to say “See? See? We are right to confiscate these!”
Hopefully the California Freepers (Neverdem, IIRC, runs the ping list) will become aware of this and make preparations.
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posted on
05/03/2013 7:47:30 PM PDT
by
Altariel
("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
To: Geoffrey
At least one, apparently.
Let’s not go through mental gymnastics to justify one head of the two-headed hydra.
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posted on
05/03/2013 7:48:51 PM PDT
by
Altariel
("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
To: Altariel
It doesn't matter to them whether we fight or we don't fight.
They're UNCONSTITUTIONALLY moving to confiscate our guns,
because they want to do things to us later on that they KNOWwe would be in our rights to defend ourselves and our property.
The United States Citizens KNOW that they're going to have to fight TYRANTS in their own government.
You cannot protect life, without the ability to take life.
While you are WAITING for the police to respond, someone could be losing their life.
All people of a responsible age should be armed.
As
EternalVigilance reminded us:
The Second Amendment IS Pro-Life.
"Among the natural rights of the Colonists are these: First, a right to life;
Secondly, to liberty;
Thirdly, to property;together with the right to support and defend them in the best manner they can.
These are evident branches of, rather than deductions from, the duty of self-preservation,commonly called the first law of nature...In short, it is the greatest absurdity to suppose it in the power of one, or any number of men, at the entering into society,
to renounce their essential natural rights, or the means of preserving those rights; when the grand end of civil government, from the very nature of its institution, is for the support, protection, and defence of those very rights;
the principal of which, as is before observed, are Life, Liberty, and Property.
If men, through fear, fraud, or mistake, should in terms renounce or give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the grand end of society would absolutely vacate such renunciation.
The right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty,it is not in the power of man to alienate this gift
and voluntarily become a slave."
Click here to read the 12 page pamphlet.
Let us NEVER FORGET THAT !
Let's subjugate them to OUR end game, DUST!
"COMPROMISE" is
a DIRTY word!
People who study the Bible know that
COMPROMISE almost always leads to destruction.
It's time to mock the "Gun Control" Zombies!
"Gun Control" is
a firm grip, steady breathing, accurate aim (developed by lots of practice), and a slow trigger pull.
The Swiss have got it CORRECT !
We need to learn
from the Swiss and implement their
"gun control measures" here in the United States right now, today!
These laws are the ones we should shove into the
"2nd Amendment Haters" faces.
" Today, military service for Swiss males is universal. At about age 20, every Swiss male goes through 118 consecutive days of recruit training in the Rekrutenschule. ...
Even before required training begins, young men and women may take optional courses with the Swiss army's M57 assault rifle.
They keep that gun at home for three months and receive six half-day training sessions.
From age 21 to 32, a Swiss man serves as a "frontline" troop in the Auszug, and devotes three weeks a year (in eight of the 12 years) to continued training.
From age 33 to 42, he serves in the Landwehr (like America's National Guard); every few years, he reports for two-week training periods.
Finally, from ages 43, to 50, he serves in the Landsturm; in this period, he only spends 13 days total in "home guard courses."
Over a soldier's career he also spends scattered days on mandatory equipment inspections and required target practice.
Thus, in a 30-year mandatory military career, a Swiss man only spends about one year in direct military service.
Following discharge from the regular army, men serve on reserve status until age 50 (55 for officers).
By the Federal Constitution of 1874, military servicemen are given their first equipment, clothing and arms.
After the first training period, conscripts must keep gun, ammunition and equipment an ihrem Wohnort ("in their homes") until the end of their term of service.
Today, enlisted men are issued M57 AUTOMATIC assault rifles and officers are given pistol.
Each reservist is issued 24 rounds of ammunition in sealed packs for emergency use.(Contrary to Handgun Control's claim that "all ammunition must be accounted for," the emergency ammunition is the only ammo that requires accounting.)
After discharge from service, the man is given a bolt rifle free from registration or obligation.
Starting in the 1994, the government will GIVE ex-reservists assault rifles. Officers carry pistols rather than rifles and are given their pistols the end of their service.
When the government adopts a new infantry rifle, it sells the old ones to the public.
Reservists are encouraged to buy MILITARY ammunition(7.5 and 5.6mm-5.56 mm in other countries-for rifles and 9 and 7.65 mm Luger for pistols)
which is sold AT COST by the government, for target practice .
Non-military ammunition for long-gun hunting and .22 Long Rifle (LR) ammo are not subsidised, but are subiect to NO sales controls.
Non-military non-hunting ammunition more powerful than .22 LR (such as .38 Spl.) is registered at the time of sale.
Swiss military ammo must be registered IF bought at a private store, BUT NEED NOT BE REGISTERED IF bought at a range.
The nation's 3,000 shooting ranges sell the overwhelming majority of ammunition.
Technically, ammunition bought at the range must be used at the range, but the rule is barely known and almost never obeyed.
The army SELLS a variety of machine guns, submachine guns, anti-tank weapons, anti-aircraft guns, howitzers and cannons.
Purchasers of these weapons require an EASILY OBTAINED cantonal license, and the weapons are registered.
In a nation of six million people, there are at least two million guns, including 600,000 FULLY AUTOMATIC assault rifles, half a million pistols, and numerous machine guns.
Virtually every home has a gun.
Besides SUBSIDIZED military surplus, the Swiss can buy other firearms easily too.
While long guns require NO special purchase procedures, handguns are sold only to those with a Waffenerwerbsschien (purchase certificate) issued by a cantonal authority.
A certificate is issued to every applicant over 18 who is not a criminal or mentally infirm.
There are NO restrictions on the carrying of long guns.
About half the cantons have strict permit procedures for carrying handguns, and the other half have NO rules at all.
There is NO discernible difference in the crime rate between the cantons as a result of the different policies.
Thanks to a lawsuit brought by the Swiss gun lobby, semi-automatic rifles require NO PURCHASE PERMIT and are NOT registered by the government.
Thus, the ONLY long guns registered by the government are FULL AUTOMATICS."
The Swiss have got it CORRECT !
Let's adopt THEIR LAWS !
Remember:
The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they TRY to take it.
So with that in mind, it's time to USE all that ammo we've been storing.
Send these gun-confiscating TYRANTS to HELL !
Read
Second Amendment: Its Not About Hunting, IT'S ABOUT TYRANNY .
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posted on
05/03/2013 8:00:07 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
To: Altariel
What I always find hillarious is how gun control advocates conveniently ignore children deaths due to drowning, WAY MORE PREVALENT than murder by a gun.
To: All; bankwalker; Principled; Altariel
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