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Man of Steel: Preview of Hans Zimmerís Score & New Images
Screen Rant ^

Posted on 05/03/2013 6:08:16 AM PDT by Perdogg

When Hans Zimmer was invited by Zack Snyder to compose the score for this summer’s comic book movie blockbuster, Man of Steel, he admitted to being so daunted by the challenge of living up to John Williams’ legacy that he procrastinated for three months before finally throwing himself fully into the task.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Music/Entertainment; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: hanszimmer; manofsteel; musicalscore; score; superman; zimmer; zimmerscore
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1 posted on 05/03/2013 6:08:16 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Aevery_Freeman; ShadowAce; Jack Hydrazine; Altariel; nuancey; Thorliveshere; skinkinthegrass; ...

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2 posted on 05/03/2013 6:09:09 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz, Sen Mike Lee, and Sen Rand Paul are my adoptive Senators)
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To: Perdogg
1980's 'Superman II' is a small masterpiece and will never be bettered.
3 posted on 05/03/2013 6:17:45 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

I agree.


4 posted on 05/03/2013 6:22:41 AM PDT by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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To: Perdogg

Reading the music boards about Zimmer is interesting. The synth guys are fairly polarised on him, but some of the classical types seem to think he’s a talentless hack.

Whatever he is, he does not suck ;)


5 posted on 05/03/2013 6:33:14 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Perdogg

How do we know it’s a blockbuster? I hate this hype of movies. Premature.

I cringe at any attempt to reinvent a great movie. Especially in this age of cynicism and “darkness” and “reality”.


6 posted on 05/03/2013 6:38:35 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Borges

A crime that Donner’s original versions never made it to the theaters...


7 posted on 05/03/2013 6:42:08 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Borges
Way back in my Drum Corps days, we had a guy who looked just like Christopher Reeve, so of course we called him Superman. He only marched that one year.

The next year, we got another guy who looked just like Christopher Reeve, so of course we called him Superman II.

That year we did a show in the first Superman's hometown, and he came by to say Hi. We immediately grabbed him and took him over, and introduced Superman to Superman II. Talk about Doppelgangers, they could have been brothers.

Nothing to do with this thread, just a cool story. And Hans Zimmer's good to go.

8 posted on 05/03/2013 6:42:30 AM PDT by real saxophonist (If something is TRULY 'common sense', then a law about it is unneccesary.)
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To: Perdogg

It’s nice,
But I love the cadence and the intervals in “Can You Read My Mind”.

I guess I’m old fashioned and unsophisticated, as I like music with a “hook”.

It was good enough for Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, The Beatles, the Stones, and even John Williams, so I’m not ashamed to say it!

JMO.


9 posted on 05/03/2013 6:42:56 AM PDT by left that other site ((Ban the ubiquitous and deadly solvent, Di-hydrogen monoxide!!!))
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Depends on the movie IMO. Some should have been dark to begin with but due to either PR concerns or the tech of the time, were all ‘prettied up’.

70s/80s Superman movies were of their time and IMO Superman never was that ‘dark’ to begin with. The 80s Batman movies were entertaining, but the new ones to me aren’t even dark enough. The entire Batman story is blacker than black top to bottom.

It just depends.


10 posted on 05/03/2013 6:43:12 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

I loved “The Rock” soundtrack.


11 posted on 05/03/2013 6:43:50 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: Perdogg

Not overly impressed yet by what I hear.


12 posted on 05/03/2013 6:45:04 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

There’s no way to know how it will perform in the theatres, because it would depend on what it is up against. However, everything I’ve seen suggests that it will break $500 million minimally.

That is blockbuster territory.


13 posted on 05/03/2013 6:45:23 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: left that other site

Agree, I think what is hear is mostly just background music. I hope I’m right.

The drum stuff sounds like standard intense emotion or action scenes music, complete with the “galloping” cadence effect.

The slow stuff sounds weak. Hope it’s just background.


14 posted on 05/03/2013 6:48:58 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Jonty30

I just don’t like telling us it’s a blockbuster when real people haven’t judged it yet. Like Ryan Leaf was going to be the greatest QB ever.


15 posted on 05/03/2013 6:50:29 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: who knows what evil?

Have you seen the reconstructed version? It stinks. Lester improved on Donner’s original in every way.


16 posted on 05/03/2013 6:53:04 AM PDT by Borges
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To: wally_bert

I listen to SKY.FM at work. They have multiple channels but the only one I listen to is the movie soundtrack channel. Hans Zimmer’s work on quite a bit. You should check it out sometime.


17 posted on 05/03/2013 6:55:05 AM PDT by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: Borges

Completely disagree. End of story.


18 posted on 05/03/2013 6:55:08 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

That’s just marketing.

By telling us that it’s a blockbuster, it will influence more people to see the show than turn off from seeing the show.


19 posted on 05/03/2013 6:57:41 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Perdogg

superman needs red over-undies....

anything else would be revisionist history.


20 posted on 05/03/2013 6:57:48 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight,, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Perdogg

I think Zimmer did the score 4 Black Hawk Down-—I heard it on the radio, not knowing what it was, and was knocked out by it, then made a point o* tracking it down to *ind out....John Batchelor, when he had his 9PM-midnight show on NY market radio, used to exclusively play movie soundtrack themes, ALL instrumental , as bumper music on his show. ALL o* it was great. That piece was among the best. Interesting to hear all that movie music out o context-—you realize just how good it is.


21 posted on 05/03/2013 7:01:27 AM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Thank You for your AFFIRMATION.

I agree with you. Perhaps they are holding on to “The Big Number”(with the hook!) until the release of the film.

And you are right about the drum cadence. I have heard it in dozens of movies already!


22 posted on 05/03/2013 7:04:47 AM PDT by left that other site ((Ban the ubiquitous and deadly solvent, Di-hydrogen monoxide!!!))
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To: who knows what evil?

Hard to resist that argument! The original Superman was bland and campy. Richard Lester added personal touches into the sequel that a commercial hack like Donner would never have. Superman 2 fits perfectly into Lester’s recurring themes of anti-nostalgia and de-mythologizing heroism (finding out heroes weren’t as invulnerable or perfect as you thought they would be). It’s there in his two Beatles films, in Petulia, in Robin and Marian and certainly in Superman 2.


23 posted on 05/03/2013 7:05:21 AM PDT by Borges
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To: real saxophonist

That was a cool story.


24 posted on 05/03/2013 7:07:42 AM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: Borges

Sarah Douglas was hot!!


25 posted on 05/03/2013 7:08:20 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: left that other site

“Can you read my mind” stands out 4 me in the original “Superman” movie as a transcendent expression o* beauty
which managed to transport the romantic aspirations o* Lois and Clark(and OURS)into a meditative tryst that was easily the best thing in the movie, and one o the best things I have seen in ANY movie.


26 posted on 05/03/2013 7:23:40 AM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: supremedoctrine
And I found that scene vomit inducing. :) Especially the way she ‘spoke’ the lines. To have that flying scene be without dialogue (with music) would have been so much more touching.
27 posted on 05/03/2013 7:35:17 AM PDT by Borges
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To: supremedoctrine

I agree.

The intervals start out so simply...the root, major third, the 5th...baby stuff, then it just takes off!

kind of like the notes are saying

“Up, Up, and Awayyyyyyy”

It SINGS. If music doesn’t “Sing” I have a hard time enjoying it. I am a Bass Player, and my Teacher (Who is a genuine Rock Star, not kidding!) told me that even a BASS LINE should be a singable melody.


28 posted on 05/03/2013 7:40:13 AM PDT by left that other site ((Ban the ubiquitous and deadly solvent, Di-hydrogen monoxide!!!))
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To: Borges

Kneel before Zod!

Ah memories.


29 posted on 05/03/2013 7:48:02 AM PDT by Zack Attack
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To: Perdogg

I love Zimmer’s work.
He did great doing the score for Crysis 2.


30 posted on 05/03/2013 7:51:12 AM PDT by RandallFlagg
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To: left that other site

John Williams lifted that melody from Richard Strauss’ ‘Death and Transfiguration’.


31 posted on 05/03/2013 7:53:43 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

I don’t doubt that one bit! LOL!

Just like Andrew Lloyd Webber stole the melody from Mendelssohn’s Violin Concerto in E for “I don’t know how to love him”! hahaha


32 posted on 05/03/2013 7:58:30 AM PDT by left that other site ((Ban the ubiquitous and deadly solvent, Di-hydrogen monoxide!!!))
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To: Borges

And remember...IF you MUST steal...

Steal from the BEST!

hahahaha

Whenever I hear Tchaikovsky’s 4th Symphony, my mind sings the Russian Folk Song Lyrics from “V’polye beryoza stayala”, the tune from which he lifted the main theme of the last movement. LOL.


33 posted on 05/03/2013 8:03:52 AM PDT by left that other site ((Ban the ubiquitous and deadly solvent, Di-hydrogen monoxide!!!))
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To: left that other site

Tchaikovsky didn’t ‘lift’ that tune...it was a conscious quote that all his Russian listeners would have understood. Using folk material was very common at the time. Russians were especially obsessed with it.


34 posted on 05/03/2013 8:12:23 AM PDT by Borges
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To: left that other site

Glad to see a story about scoring that I think is one of the most underrated parts film making.

I like Hans Zimmer a lot: “As Good As It Gets”. Listen to the insectoid syncopations therein.

My favorite right now though is Carter Burwell’s “Alamo” from 2004. Such beautiful themes that he makes the approach to sound so simple....


35 posted on 05/03/2013 8:14:56 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Borges

OK...I know what you mean, and agree. He quoted church music too. Liszt did the same thing in his “Hungarian Rhapsodies”. John Williams (and Andrew Lloyd Webber) should have attributed their melodies as well to their predecessors. As should have Paul Simon in “American Tune”. It’s OK to pay “Tribute” to previous melodies, or even to gather them together for a “Rhapsody”, but not OK to pass them off as one’s own.

Just my humble opinion as a Songwriter. When I come up with a cool phrase, I WRACK MY BRAIN to make sure I didn’t hear it somewhere before. Sometimes, I toss the phrase away because it even SOUNDS like I might have lifted it, even if it is original. Maybe I am a wee bit too meticulous, but I sure as heck don’t wanna get sued! LOL!


36 posted on 05/03/2013 8:20:01 AM PDT by left that other site ((Ban the ubiquitous and deadly solvent, Di-hydrogen monoxide!!!))
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To: onedoug

Oh wow...I am listening to “Quiet Mountain” right now.

Thank you for sharing this.


37 posted on 05/03/2013 8:25:25 AM PDT by left that other site ((Ban the ubiquitous and deadly solvent, Di-hydrogen monoxide!!!))
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To: left that other site; Borges
The Composer's Recipe for Fried Chicken:

First, steal a chicken...

38 posted on 05/03/2013 8:45:12 AM PDT by real saxophonist (If something is TRULY 'common sense', then a law about it is unneccesary.)
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To: real saxophonist

Ha Ha Ha!


39 posted on 05/03/2013 8:46:22 AM PDT by left that other site ((Ban the ubiquitous and deadly solvent, Di-hydrogen monoxide!!!))
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To: onedoug

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FpWnHcfyxM&list=RD026MPxW7Mw5W4


40 posted on 05/03/2013 8:47:56 AM PDT by Eepsy
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To: left that other site

I’ve always liked that one. I think I first heard it in college, from a Theory/Comp professor.


41 posted on 05/03/2013 9:04:30 AM PDT by real saxophonist (If something is TRULY 'common sense', then a law about it is unneccesary.)
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To: real saxophonist

Interesting, coming from a professor! :-)


42 posted on 05/03/2013 9:06:30 AM PDT by left that other site ((Ban the ubiquitous and deadly solvent, Di-hydrogen monoxide!!!))
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To: left that other site

The only flaw, (and it is a big one) in the original Superman movie was in the flight love scene between Superman and Lois Lane, they don’t play the song, just Margo Kidder voicing her thoughts, which are the words of the song. Ugh.


43 posted on 05/03/2013 9:23:17 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: Borges

“One of these days, you and I are going to have a serious disagreement.”

Sorry, your posts made me think of another movie to quote.


44 posted on 05/03/2013 9:29:30 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: left that other site; Eepsy

I think #17 “The Visitation Of Saint Ursula” is one of the most beautiful developments I’ve heard in a very long time. I also love the piano segment of #17, “The Last Night”. Burwell is an extremely gifted man, I think. I’ve got to check out some of his other work.

Best to you both.


45 posted on 05/03/2013 9:31:20 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: sportutegrl

I actually don’t see that as a problem. Just poetry being spoken. Kind of neat actually.


46 posted on 05/03/2013 9:34:18 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: left that other site
I was privileged to attend a college where most of my teachers were also friends and peers. Class or lessons during the week, and gig together on weekends.

And we were always able to tell the two apart, we were professional, there was never a problem.

47 posted on 05/03/2013 9:35:11 AM PDT by real saxophonist (If something is TRULY 'common sense', then a law about it is unneccesary.)
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To: sportutegrl

Yeah...THAT was lame.


48 posted on 05/03/2013 9:53:06 AM PDT by left that other site ((Ban the ubiquitous and deadly solvent, Di-hydrogen monoxide!!!))
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To: onedoug

Makes me want to see the movie.

(I KNOW it’s probably revisionist!)


49 posted on 05/03/2013 9:53:59 AM PDT by left that other site ((Ban the ubiquitous and deadly solvent, Di-hydrogen monoxide!!!))
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To: real saxophonist

That is indeed a blessing!


50 posted on 05/03/2013 9:54:37 AM PDT by left that other site ((Ban the ubiquitous and deadly solvent, Di-hydrogen monoxide!!!))
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