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To: Daveinyork
One good reason the government should not own all the guns.

I assume you think things would have turned out better in this case if the woman or her brother had been armed. I wonder how you think that would work.

Had either of them drawn a weapon, would the cops just have decided to walk away? Or is it more likely things would have immediately escalated to a shootout? What do cops do when a suspect draws a weapon? What should they do?

2A rights are very important for providing the people a method of collective armed defense against oppression. It is more or less by definition useless as a means for individuals to protect themselves against the same. If these two people had been armed, and "won" a shootout with the cops, would they (being in the moral right) just be able to go on their way? Or would more and more force have been called in by LEO until they were subdued or dead?

IOW, sometimes armed resistance against the cops might be morally in the right, but the chance of it turning out well for the resisters (as in being able to go on with their lives) is essentially nil.

The question you need to ask yourself before getting into armed confrontation with cops, "Am I willing to die on this hill?" Because it is just about certain you will either die or spend a very long time indeed in prison.

I will gladly agree some hills are worth dying on, but is this the one that justifies such a sacrifice?

None of this has any bearing on whether the cops acted stupidly in this case or not, although it should be pointed out that this article is not "the truth," it is one side's version of the story.

BTW, looked up some info about the Park Police. Sound like armed security guard types, with all their wannabee problems.

20 posted on 05/04/2013 7:33:01 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

I think you’re missing his point in the statement “One good reason the government should not own all the guns.”.

Not that these people necessarily, or others in a similar situation, would have benefited from shooting at the cops, but that try to imagine how widespread this sort of thing would be if all police knew for a fact that the general populace was completely disarmed? IOW, the deterrent factor.

Disarm the people and (in today’s environment and government) law enforcement will turn into nothing more than oppression; it’s going in that direction already. When there is no concern that the law abiding people can rise up and fight back, thuggery and brutality will be the order of the day. Been demonstrated over and over in history. And happening today in America.


27 posted on 05/04/2013 7:55:15 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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